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    An old thread, but I'm glad its here.  I've spent the last week "binging" this odd creation from across the pond, and I like it. 


                                               

 

                                           

Quote from: starrmtn001 on July 17, 2015, 11:40:13 PM
You sounded fantastic Art!

Quote from: General Johnson Jameson on July 18, 2015, 02:54:20 AM
...wow!

Quote from: Eddie Coyle on July 17, 2015, 10:09:22 PM
   Beautiful.

Quote from: CSM on July 18, 2015, 03:38:45 AM
Thank you to MV for notifying all Bellgabbers of the link to Art Bell's interview with John Batchelor....

     I've recently been listening to some of this Batchelor guy's show, and amazed at how he doesn't just read the guest's books, he devours them like nobody I ever heard.  So unlike some moron idiot clown fool person we know.  Appropriate.  And cool.

     Episode 6, The Caretaker.  I was disappointed that Clara said "no" when asked by Pink whether she loved the Doctor.  Broke my heart.  An ok episode.  A tad rushed.  I never really understood what that alien was all about.  Again with the "heaven" at the end.  Moffat better tie this all up good.

     Episode 5, Time Heist:  Nicely done.

Quote from: Unscreened Caller on September 10, 2014, 11:53:51 AM
Hey Valdez...'Listen' is supposed to be a cracker, really scary and memorable.

Quote from: aldousburbank on September 10, 2014, 07:23:54 AM
Yeah Valdez!

Quote from: zeebo on September 11, 2014, 06:06:31 PM
I second that!

Shucks.  You guys are great, and while "listen" wasn't great, it was damn good.  The best episode of the 8th season so far.  Nice twist at the end.  A slight tang of jealousy as Clara kissed that nerd Pink (dump him, for the love of God, dump him).  I enjoyed the hug Clara gave the Doctor.  It seems "maniac" suits him well.

    Realizing that the Matt Smith era has raised the bar, I really want to give my loyalty and devotion to the 12th Doctor.  But what happened to the writing?  Did the Doctor get back his sonic screw driver from the sheriff of Nottingham (season 8, episode 3 "Robot of Sherwood') or not?  What's with all the snappy juvenile retorts?  Where is the emotion?  What's with the crappy editing?  Where is David Moffit?  Who's in charge over there?  Capaldi has potential.  Let’s do this right.

     So I'm listening to the show (yeah, still listening, just can't bring myself to write another word about el morono idioticus) when I hear during the news break that Tommy Ramone has died.  Not my favorite Ramone, but hey, he's a Ramone.   I get home and read an article about it and I find out that Johnny had also died back in 2004.  I knew that Joey and Dee Dee had kicked the can, but how far up my butt my head must have been not to know Johnny had died?  I learned my first (and last) three chords on a cheap no named electric crap guitar because of these goons and they are gone.  No more Ramones on this earth.  Sadness.

Quote from: zeebo on April 17, 2014, 12:04:46 AM
New Nooryism tonite:  "Up noxt ..."

Quote from: No Name Storm on April 17, 2014, 12:12:11 AM
OMG....I heard that too and thought I was hearing things!!

     No word too small to be butcherd by the Snoormiester.

Quote from: Smoley on April 17, 2014, 12:13:45 AM
I could swear I heard him say that the BLM was the Bureau of Labor Management...

    I didn't hear that tonight, but he definitely said it a few nights back.  I let him sly.  In his defense I can see where he might think that a land dispute involving cows...and grass...would...somehow...eh...actually I can't defend it at all.  But I like listening to tech guy, Lauren Weinstein.  He had almost an hour to talk about kill switches and windows xp.  I like fracking too, as did Wall Street Journal guy, Russell Gold, but the caller who accused George of presenting only one side of the story had a point.  George said he had an anti-oil guy on back in October.  Six months ago.  So there.  And it only took 2 1/2 hours for George to ask Gold about those little earthquakes.  And there were more than a few moments of dead air while Gold wondered if he was being interviewed by and adult.  "The energy boom, is it a good or bad thing?"  And George anounced the death of another c2c guest whose name I don't recall.  Seven (according to George) in a year's time. 

Quote from: Foodlion on April 15, 2014, 12:49:04 PM
Michael Ruppert was on a podcast a few hours before he committed suicide. I believe it was taken down, but if anyone can find it please provide a link.

Here it is:  http://www.maxkeiser.com/2014/04/mike-ruppert-rip/.  I haven't heard the whole thing.  I am listening to it as I write.  He sounds disillusioned.   How long before George develops (as much as his mind can develop something) a conspiracy theory on c2c guest dying off?  As much as I'm bored with George's health segments I found myself interested what Kelly Turner was saying about cancer.  Rob MacGregor and Bruce Gernon on what may have happened to flight 370.  Caught up in an "electronic fog"?  Pulled into the exhaust vents of a very large ufo? "Nobody knows anything about this flight," said George, "so I guess we can conclude just about anything."  He also graced us with: "When a portal opens up and something crashes, you know there’s something wrong."  Sigh.  I wanted to know more about MacGregor's work with George Lucas on the Indiana Jones flicks.  And about Arthur C. Clark's tv show(?).  Foolish me.

Quote from: yumyumtree on April 10, 2014, 11:20:09 PM
Did George say "Titantic"?

Yes.  And seconds before that he spoke of something called "tammy-flu." I use to know a girl named Tammy, but she wasn't spreading the flu.  If you know what I mean.

Quote from: zeebo on April 11, 2014, 01:06:27 AM
Poor Bill the AAA from WH...

He got the shaft tonight.  Not cool.  But if Dora the Crazy Cuban Lady had called in she would have gotten twenty minutes easy.

Quote from: astroguy on April 11, 2014, 12:30:16 AM
Ahem.  "Alien Lights or Cosmic Rays on Mars."

I just knew Mike Bara (who's not convinced that time slows down as you approach the speed of light) was talking about you when mentioned somebody who's "name he didn't want mention" (or something along those lines).  Good work, astroguy.  Somebody has to keep these clowns straight, although they do have a slight entertainment value.  I thought the idea of an all Mars show was cool.  Besides Bara, we also had  Dr. John Brandenburg, George J. Haas, J.P. Levasseur, and Michael E. Salla speculating on ancient life on the red planet and how it may have met its demise.  But why no straight science guy in the lineup, like Robert Zimmerman?  Heck, even Hoagland (sorely missed, especially when they got to talking about Cydonia) can get off the wackiness and focus on the hard science.  Among the caller highlights was the lady who's got a picture of a whole bunch of people and rowboats on Mars, a guy named Johnny Danger that Haas and Levasseur went nuts over, and somebody named Tim, who has been getting shuttled by aliens to Mars and back since he was a kid.  George gave him about 6 seconds, to which Michael Salla said "Tim, if you're still listening, I'd like to hear your story." Because George ain't got no time for that.  Because he's the host of c2c.  A show about the unusual.  Because George can't wait to go home and "jump" into his sleep number bed.

Quote from: michio on April 09, 2014, 11:46:35 PM
I only caught the last part of their discussion so I may not know of which I speak. sNoory didn't just use a tragic event of school knife attacks to turn it into a shameless and inappropriate advertisement for his firearms lust, by having his straight-shootin' sidekick John Lott on, did he? 

Yep.  He sure did.  Actually I think the point of that segment was to underscore that it is the darkness in our souls that causes rampages and not the weapons available.  Although I suppose if the kid had a grenade launcher things may have been a bit worst.  Peter Breggin  was also on to make sense of the senseless.  Thank you, Craig Nelson, for having such a bright and cheerful attitude about things like Chernobyl and Fukushima, and nuke plants in general, and foiling George's every attempt at fear mongering.  What is this French fusion thing?   I love it when George feigns familiarity with a movie he's never seen ("It's a classic!").  And with all due respect to Barbara Hand Clow, did we need another show on astrology?
 

   

Quote from: yumyumtree on April 08, 2014, 11:36:18 PM
Who's this jellybean?

Quote from: Gassy Man on April 08, 2014, 11:55:45 PM
...Crazy Town...

Quote from: zeebo on April 09, 2014, 12:49:42 AM
...in hushed tones from a closet in their parent's house... 

Quote from: popple on April 09, 2014, 02:29:34 AM
... huuuuuuuuuuuuuu ...

   I liked psychopath guy, David Weiner.  I felt sorry for the lady who was having her brother's kid.  I wanted to hear more from the wack job who called in not saying much, and was cut off.    R. Scott Lemriel was so full of crap, but I admire his ability to harness the crap, package it, and manage to keep George's finger off the "dump" button.  And when a caller says "I'm not one of those delusional people with emotional problems," they usually are.

Quote from: bateman on April 04, 2014, 08:39:12 PM
Who the hell is Lisa Garr, you might ask..?

I was expecting a bundle of nerves, with lots of dead air, but this hottie was smooth and confident and did a fine job and I've dropped her a line telling her so.  Shame on Eldon Taylor for, at times, being what I sensed was a bit condescending to Garr, and for not shutting his trap long enough to see if the host may possibly have a question.  I don't even know what the guy was talking about.  Spirit medium, John Holland, was a gentleman, as most of these medium guys seem to be.  Maybe because they know there's a hell.  I'm gonna drop Eldon a line reminding him of such.  I hope Garr comes back.  There's room for her.

Quote from: sydtron on April 05, 2014, 02:34:38 AM
...I wish he and Tommy would goto Mars...

Quote from: Morgus on April 05, 2014, 02:49:56 AM
Exactly as expected...

Quote from: zeebo on April 04, 2014, 11:48:37 PM
...this Maine ghost guy sounds pretty level-headed actually.  He's ok I think.

     Yeah, I thought Maine ghost guy, Tom Verde, was ok too.  As was ufo guy, Michael Luckman.  And I swear I thought there was a possibility that George was going to up his game a hair, in answer to his detractors, because we know he reads this thread, and attempt to do something different for good ole Evelyn Paglini, but I'll be damned if Morgus wasn't right about him playing an old interview and skipping out early.  What a turd.  I think he and Tommy made a blood pact never to put any effort into this c2c thing ever.  And in that they are succeeding.  That Syrian guy who called in and related how the BMW corporation was able to find his stolen BMW from all the way out in Germany made a good point about how this whole missing plane thing stinks to high hell.  Did George really refer to the show he did a while back honoring all his deceased guest as the "dead people's show"?  And is it just me, or is "where can people get your book, so that people can have fun with it?" a really odd question?

 

Quote from: NoMoreNoory on April 03, 2014, 07:59:11 PM
...Not a mention of any of the actual contents of the book. Similarly, he was happy to throw out names of authors for his guest to discuss, like H G Wells, but was unable to contribute anything at all to the discussion, having clearly never read any of Wells' novels. When a caller asked the guest for his top 5 'best' or 'favourite' Sci-Fi novels, George was clearly Googling away and started offering titles, not a single one of which he was able to comment on...

     He's also seems unable to summarize a discussion.  He'll go to a break with "we'll be right back with [name of guest] talking about [name of book]." I can see doing that on the intro, but after an hour and a half he should be able elaborate somewhat.  But then again we be talking about George.

Quote from: zeebo on April 03, 2014, 11:27:00 PM
...Goddamn Pluto, never did trust you.

     Leave Pluto alone!

Quote from: 21st Century Man on April 03, 2014, 11:46:05 PM
...Fukushima.

     I forget what Peter Breggin was talking about, but he was very sincere.  Stephen Bassett on Bill Clinton and the aliens.  I was surprised by Linda Schurman's prediction of nuclear fusion in our future (and what became of the environmentalist?), and horrified by Mitchell Lewis' prediction of a Hillary presidency.  That would place responsible main stream journalism in deep hibernation for 16 years.

    No April fools bit from George…yet.  He says he'll do a tribute to Evelyn Paglini on Friday.  Prepare for another lame uninspiring memorial.  Jerome Corsi on the basket case North Koreans.  James Sanders on the still missing airliner.  Martin Blank on how cellphones zap the brain.  Like anybody cares.  Is Tim Ball the only anti-consensus global warming guy in George's rolodex?  And why did George act surprised when Ball said he was being sued by someone?  He's been on a million times.  Everybody knows Ball is being sued by someone.  Cut the crap, George.  Suck if you want to, but cut the mindless crap.  After a Schrader/Knapp/Knapp weekend, George delivers crap.

Quote from: Mind Flayer Monk on March 30, 2014, 04:49:27 AM
And someone slipped in a John Lennon and Stephen King silliness during the Beatles segment.

I think it's the same guy who always calls in about this.  It's weird how some conspiracy theories catch on, and some just flounder.  This guy needs a website. 

Quote from: zeebo on March 30, 2014, 02:02:09 AM
...but, I quibble.

If it was just the Richard B. Hoover segment on space rock amoebas and NASA cover-ups it would have been fairly good show for the Knappster, but add a segment on the Beatles with Bob Spitz and you're jammin' easy on cool crisp Saturday night.  A lot of those titbits, like the scrambled eggs/Yesterday thing, were nothing new, but I didn't know how grueling their time in Germany was, and how they invented the "album."  I'm gonna have to look that up.  This is the second time Knapp has played a Bob Seger bumper that caught my attention.  I wrote that clown off years ago as a has-been.  Hmmm.

 

Quote from: smitty9999 on March 27, 2014, 11:50:00 PM
...It seems as if there are a lot of pro George and anti Art calls lately.

     I also noticed an increased spattering of pro-George postings at the c2c facebook page.  Could be sunspot effects.  And these must be the folks George is specifically speaking to when he explains how to use the c2c "insatpoll" five friggin' times.

Quote from: zeebo on March 28, 2014, 02:02:58 AM
...bald telepathic aliens in Smokey-the-Bear hats at the airport.

     So if I'm the call screener and I know Seth Shostak is pretty much a straight science guy, and I probably have some callers with some good science questions, why would I give el drunko hillbilly airtime?

Quote from: Gd5150 on March 28, 2014, 01:46:49 AM
...Noory just said to LMH "how do you find all these strange stories?" Um she does her job? Funny Art never had trouble finding them and so much more. Knapp finds them. Makes one wonder what Noory actually does. No research. No show prep. Handed the same questions for the standard subjects. May as well be a robot.

     Someone recently mentioned that George is doing "stand up" at these "events."  Between that, and his singing endeavors, and his internet based tv show, he's got his hands full.  Which reminds me, where the heck is Richard C. Hoagland?

Quote from: Seraphim27 on March 26, 2014, 10:59:18 AM
...Sorry this post is so short.

I enjoyed it.  Reminds me of pre-rock star Falkie.  In a good way.

Quote from: SomeVelvetMorning on March 27, 2014, 12:02:18 AM
...Yes, I will have a plate of doom..

So John Hogue has an important announcement to make, but first we have to listen to 20 minutes of his methodology.  Yeah, ok, Nostradamus wrote in French.   Sixteenth century French.  We get it.  After informing us that World War III is upon us, Hogue castigates a caller for dwelling on the missing Malaysian plane, and blames CNN for "news porn," but George ain't saying anything because he just had Howard Bloom on to talk about the damn missing plane also.  And after the Hogue segment George says, "Well that was a scary couple of hours, wasn't it?" But remember, George is not a fear monger.  Because he said so.  And even though pray for money guy James Paris reminded me of Kevin Trudeau, I really liked his Eddie Henderson jazz concert story even though George interrupted it about 100 times. 

Quote from: DocHolliday on March 25, 2014, 11:27:08 PM
"There's an old saying, when the economy goes south, the war goes north....maybe that will happen"
Google can't even find that saying said by anyone.

Quote from: zeebo on March 25, 2014, 11:56:33 PM
...morbid arousal...

Quote from: Immy on March 26, 2014, 12:32:15 AM
Some "expert"...

Quote from: popple on March 26, 2014, 12:47:00 AM
...Medevdev...

        William Forstchen on EMPs.  I think there are only four subjects now covered on c2c:  EMPs, Piixies, Snapchats, and EMPs.  For God's sakes please don't actually take the time to learn how to pronounce the names of foreign dignitaries, George, you're only a friggin' big time radio broadcaster.  Joseph Gallenberger on positive thinking.  A mildly interesting Jim Karol and Joseph Gallenberger on super memory.  Space guy Steve Kates should get more than 45 seconds.   Catherine Austin Fitts on Facebook's acquisition of everything.

Quote from: karios8 on March 24, 2014, 11:53:02 PM
George is completely lost...

Quote from: Abby Normal on March 25, 2014, 12:44:51 AM
Guest says something.
George: HA HA HA
Guest says something.
George: HA HA HA
Guest says something.
George: HA HA HA
Guest says something.
George: HA HA HA
Guest says something.
George: HA HA HA

     The only thing missing from the Jesse Ventura interview was somebody to conduct the interview.  I could hear George from time to time, but it’s amazing how he's made himself so completely irrelevant.  Australian dream guy, Robert Moss, must have known this and decided to steamroll his way through George and take control of his segment.  Well done, mate.  I particularly liked his concept that we should treat the symbolisms of our reality as if they were dreams, and treat our dreams as if they were reality.  Favorite George quote of the night: "I'm with you, Jesse.  I'm a buff on that."   
   

Quote from: Guy From V on March 22, 2014, 05:43:48 AM
...lifeless...

I'll bet George really liked Dr. Roger Leir and wanted to do right by him and give him a nice little tribute, but George ain't good at doing things right.  Instead we got the standard Noory/Danheiser conveyor belt of wham bam say something nice your time is up thank you bye bye treatment that was as cold as the body they were eulogizing.  Would it have been difficult to find out what Leir's favorite songs were and using them as bumper?  Could they not find a family member to speak a few words?  As of this writing the c2c website hasn't posted who all was on the show (and they just might not do it at all since they got a big fancy "special event" today) but from off the top of my head we had George Knapp, Whitley Strieber, L.A. Marzulli, Rob Simone, some kid who's waking a movie on Leir, Mike Bara (I think), and some other folks I can't recall.  Somebody mentioned that Leir played the organ, and I thought that was interesting because I hadn't known that because in spite of the many interviews George has conducted with Leir those stupid little index cards don't allow you get to really know who these guest are beyond the scam.  Pity.  One hour of open lines (George sure was rushing them through), last hour a replay, and Howard Bloom is hearing the thunder of a world war coming.

Quote from: NoMoreNoory on March 18, 2014, 11:14:21 PM
...A perfect Crimea!!!

Quote from: Morgus on March 19, 2014, 12:20:28 AM
Noory just asked his same old question again about what Einstein could have done with a computer.
Didn't he learn from the previous 100 times he asked that?

Quote from: zeebo on March 19, 2014, 01:37:11 AM
... guest just said the most profound thing, that a recent discovery shows that our observable universe is likely just a fraction of the entire thing, most of which we can't see - I mean that's pretty mind-blowing to me and deserves some kind of follow-up to elaborate on that - instead Noorsie just ignores it and moves on to the next 3x5 card...

Classic George doing science.  It took about an hour for Jeffery Bennett to start shortening his answers realizing this was not going to be a conversation.  I would have been happy (and damned impressed) if George had simply asked him what the difference was between "general" and "special" relativity.  I'm not sure what Craig Hulet was trying to say about Diego Garcia and the missing plane, but its the second time I've heard that base mentioned in relation to the mystery.  Odd website I learned about during the show: Tomnod  http://www.tomnod.com/nod/

Quote from: Morgus on March 18, 2014, 12:26:39 AM
Did Major Ed Dames remote view the pilot went rogue, claim he killed the crew & passengers, and was "headed for Somalia" ?

     George booted him off so fast that I didn't catch whether he succeeded in flying it to Somalia, or crashed it in the ocean, but I gotta tell you, with all the uncertainty and guessing and conjecture that we've been getting out of this story this pass week, it was refreshing to hear someone lay it all out with certainty and confidence.  Yeah, I know, it's Ed Dames, but still I appreciated the bravado and pathos in his voice.  I'm not sure why Whitely Strieber was on.  And what exactly did Roger Leir do with all that alien implant removal money?  And how many times did George have to remind us that "Charlie," the pilot, wasn't really named Charlie?  Yeah, confidential, anonymous, we got it, George.  Make room for that Marconi award you're never gonna get.  I got confused as to who was talking during the Christopher Valentine and bellgabber  Christian von Lahr segment on unicorns and gnomes and nature people and I didn't care much about it anyway.  Why play "Danny Boy" during the show if you know your're going to play Christian Wilde singing it at the end?  And are there no cool Irish punk bands that could have been included in the mix?  And where exactly, George, is Crimeria?
 

Quote from: annabelle on March 12, 2014, 11:18:51 AM
...shoddy...pitiful...

Quote from: NoMoreNoory on March 12, 2014, 10:30:17 PM
...idle, pointless and unqualified speculation...

Quote from: zeebo on March 13, 2014, 01:37:17 AM
...another friggin crooning ballad?

Quote from: Glutton For Punishment on March 13, 2014, 01:42:25 AM
Is it really too much to ask that George identify the bands/singers of the bumper music?   

Quote from: coaster on March 13, 2014, 12:28:11 AM
This last caller said she had never "interneted". I envy her.

     I think every one of George's "missing plane" guest (tonight it was  David Soucie) have clearly stated to him that they'd rather work with the facts and not speculate.   Alas, George shall not waiver. "Let’s make a couple more assumptions..."  Fine.  Knock yourself out.  I wanted to hear more about exactly what the internet is (what's a server?  What does it mean?) with Lauren Weinstein, but George just wants someone to explain to him how Facebook and Snap Chat make money, because, you know, George is so unfamiliar with advertising.  The gods were space aliens with Rev. Michael J.S. Carter, who spoke clearly and had a very nice phone connection. The reason George doesn't comment on the music is because he cares nothing about it.  Kudos to the lady who never interneted, and who prefers "interacting with people on a human level."   Good luck with that.  And pack a gun.
 

Quote from: Mels-hole1984 on March 12, 2014, 01:30:12 AM
Morgus, you totally called that one.

I was kind of hoping George would give Amit Goswami the heave-ho.  Thick accent plus muffled connection equals I don't know what you're talking about.  But why did William Engdahl get dumped?  While I wasn't thrilled with his cheap shots at neo-cons, Dick Cheney, and the tea party, there was something different about him, and his theory that NATO snipers instigated the current Ukraine crisis (a statement completely ignored by truthseeker George) intrigued me.  He seemed like a serious and smart guy.  I swear I would have driven my car into a river if Lionel Fanthorpe had repeated any one of those goddamned stories, but instead he talked about other things, and he knows how to carry a conversation, and he turned me on to the "Voynich Manuscript," which sounds kind of cool.  Two guests dumped in one night.  A George Noory classic.
 

Quote from: NoMoreNoory on March 11, 2014, 12:00:33 AM
George The Ghoul wonders whether, if they find the black boxes, they will be able to hear 'the voices of the pilots screaming'.

David Paulides said he didn't want to "fly off the handle" with theories (on the missing kids) that he had no evidence for, which, in George's twelve year old brain, means that Yeti, Sasquatch, aliens, and portals are all in play.  The "pilots screaming" comment with Jack Cashill was disgraceful.  While I haven't heard many recordings of a pilot's last moments, every single one that I have heard has only demonstrated their professionalism.  Some people, George, walk this earth with a dignity you shall never fathom.

Quote from: ZHero on March 08, 2014, 01:14:30 AM
"Beyond Tangy Tangerine"......WTF??  

Quote from: Mind Flayer Monk on March 08, 2014, 12:47:06 AM
...serious country twang...

Quote from: zeebo on March 08, 2014, 03:26:36 AM
Guy just called in to complain that some previous guest hosts didn't close with ufo phil...

     No harmness from Robb Riggs and Tom Burnette, on the undulations of the southern bigfoots who evidently ain't as noble and stately as their northwestern counterparts, among other things.  I wanted to hear more about congressional shenanigans from Fair Tax guy, Bill Spillane.  Why would anybody spend money on a new L.A. studio for George?  What plans do they have for their little sock puppet?  What's "beyond" about those tangerines?  Was I high, or did George spend an inordinate amount of time talking about his upcoming "events"?  How many avatars is Seraphim gonna go through?  Why would anybody request more of that stupid ufo phil song?  What did George mean when he said the weekend host "do their own little thing"?  Is staying awake and attempting to conduct a better than half ass interview a "little thing"?  Did George really know what that nuclear fusion call was all about, or can stringing together meaningless gibberish with just the right intonation get him through anything?  And what excactly was all that about the Norwegians?

Quote from: Gassy Man on March 06, 2014, 12:49:51 AM
So . . . George wanted to join the CIA...

Quote from: Mind Flayer Monk on March 06, 2014, 02:21:32 AM
I thought guest Patrick Tucker would be bad, but he is actually really good...

Not a bad show at all.  Brian Kannard on John Steinbeck being a spy.  Any hope that George had of joining the CIA would have ended at the "intelligence" part of the job.  I suppose that was too easy.  And I'm sure there's a rule somewhere stating that after a certain amount of time has passed you don't have to place "the late" before a dead man's name.  Ok, George?  Patrick Tucker, sounding like a young, not so nervous, Woody Allen, was cool too.  I think he's the only guy I've heard on c2c who doesn't think the dreaded EMP would be the grand disaster that George and his minions have lectured us about (essentially he believes we would recover before we went "mad max" -  the worst part being the actual radiation from the blast), and who thinks such a weapon would come in handy in the event a super computer takes over the world.  Hmmm...I hate it when super computers take over the world.