ISIS

[Yorkshire pud]

Instead of who, someone that would make excuses, shrug his shoulders, and give up because the task is too hard, like you perhaps?

Nope; wrong again, but what would YOU do?

[Quick Karl]

Nope; wrong again, but what would YOU do?

Elected Romney...

[Yorkshire pud]

Elected Romney...

Ahh, you haven't actually any idea other than to say (in your opinion) when others haven't done a non specific task? I get it.

[Quick Karl]

Agree completely The USA is in the distinct minority of nations that have an individualistic rather than a collectivist culture.  It plays right into the hands of these guys and gives credibility to their propaganda to privilege the life of a few American individuals over the ME communities.  The last time this tactic was tried, it ended up backfiring, because it alienates all but the BuickCarl-level fanatics amongst the Muslims.

The snaggle-tooth pig rapers who are shrieking that we should react like dumb animals to this provocation are like the cowards who incite riots.  None of them are risking their own necks; they're simply exploiting others to get the result that they want.

It would be great to watch you being beheaded on the internet.

No, really, it would.

The exact tactics of you and obama are WHY journalists are being beheaded on the internet, because they KNOW there are spineless traitors like you in America, and in the White House...

[Quick Karl]

Ahh, you haven't actually any idea other than to say (in your opinion) when others haven't done a non specific task? I get it.

First I would find the town where you live, and nuke it, then I would start nuking ISIS wherever they were, including if they were in Mosques or schools - then I would order the CIA to blame it on your relatives.

[Yorkshire pud]

It would be great to watch you being beheaded on the internet.

No, really, it would.

The exact tactics of you and obama are WHY journalists are being beheaded on the internet, because they KNOW there are spineless traitors like you in America.

You really are a vile individual aren't you? Wishing the savage execution of someone you've never met and you think you're elevated above the cess pit of the savages who murdered that journalist? You're just vile.

[Quick Karl]

You really are a vile individual aren't you? Wishing the savage execution of someone you've never met and you think you're elevated above the cess pit of the savages who murdered that journalist? You're just vile.

your hypocrisy is truly amazing. I would debate you if you had a significant thought, ever...

[PB the Deplorable]

... the cowards who incite riots.  None of them are risking their own necks; they're simply exploiting others to get the result that they want.

Just to be clear, are you referring to 'Occupy', or to the slimeballs like the Revs Jackson and Sharpton?

[albrecht]

Nope; wrong again, but what would YOU do?

Let Assad use whatever he wants on the radical rebels and stop actions and sanctions against him. Arm the Kurds let them have a country/region and let them fight ISIS/ISIL/IS.  Let Iran and the Shites to take more actions in the territory that is over-run (I'd rather deal with Persians, who at least had a real culture, before oil became the hot thing that destabilized the region and got the most uneducated, uncultured, and most radicals to dominance. Screw the new "kings" and radical Bedouin sand-people with their Salafist crap.) Arm the Christians in the region. I'd rather deal with the Phalangists than the Islamists. And stop giving money and protection to Qataries and Saudis unless they stop funding radicalism and school around the world and region. Kick out students on VISAs from our countries (even if royally "connected")  and stop immigration from the region without VERY strict monitoring, background checks, etc. And sort out the ones we've already allowed into the USA, UK, and Europe.

[Yorkshire pud]

First I would find the town where you live, and nuke it, then I would start nuking ISIS wherever they were, including if they were in Mosques or schools - then I would order the CIA to blame it on your relatives.

Oh you're angry aren't you son? Tsk...

[Quick Karl]

Just to be clear, are you referring to 'Occupy', or to the slimeballs like the Revs Jackson and Sharpton?

He's talking about anyone that disagrees with president ospineless.

[Quick Karl]

Oh you're angry aren't you son? Tsk...

Not in the least - I would consider it a sacred honor and would be happy.

[DigitalPigSnuggler]

Just to be clear, are you referring to 'Occupy', or to the slimeballs like the Revs Jackson and Sharpton?

I'm referring to anyone who behaves in the manner I described.

[ACE of CLUBS]

Go on then genius, how would you stop a captured journo who no-one apart from his captors know the whereabouts of; being killed at will by said captors? You seriously think if Obama wasn't the President and it was say Darth Vader, that IS (or their name this week) would take any more notice? IS couldn't care less who in which country says what on TV. I bet the Republicans are simply breathing a sigh of relief they're not having to deal with it and the criticisms from the hard of thinking such as yourself.

What would you do then ..... ?
What's your solution ..... ?

[Yorkshire pud]

Not in the least - I would consider it a sacred honor and would be happy.

You're still no better than the ISIS savages though; you subscribe to their philosophies. I'm not sure you'd get 70 virgins if you ended up going into martyrdom though. You're just like them though. Even down to the beard and misogyny.

[PB the Deplorable]

Let Assad whatever he wants on the radical rebels and stop actions and sanctions against him. Arm the Kurds let them have a country/region and let them fight ISIS/ISIL/IS.  Let Iran and the Shites to take more actions in the territory that is over-run (I'd rather deal with Persians, who at least had a real culture, before oil became the hot thing that destabilized the region and got the most uneducated, uncultured, and most radicals to dominance. Screw the new "kings" and radical Bedouin sand-people with their Salafist crap.) Arm the Christians in the region. I'd rather deal with the Phalangists than the Islamists. And stop giving money and protection to Qataries and Saudis unless they stop funding radicalism and school around the world and region.

What are you talking about?  Didn't you hear Obama say al-Qaeda in Iraq is on the run, and that ISIL is the JV team?

No really, those remarks should have caught your attention.  They were about the only comments he's made to date about world events that didn't either include blaming Bush, or instructing us that the first he'd heard about it was from the morning paper.

[PB the Deplorable]

Utter utter bollox. Where did you get that crap from? ...

You don't think Defense and CIA have contingency plans for various scenarios?  What is it you think they do at the Pentagon?

[Yorkshire pud]

What would you do then ..... ?
What's your solution ..... ?

Right now? Drop humanitarian aid to the civvies to start with. Get the Kurd High command on board. make sure that everyone is on side (NATO, Kurds and Iraq). Syria is a basket case, but try to give aid to their civvies. Rising to the execution of a journo won't help, it's what ISIS want, they're goading the west and trying to make the west see all the ME like them, and they're clearly not. Take out as much as possible using UAV's the ISIS positions, cause disarray in their ranks..take out the leaders (very very difficult) so on the ground intelligence is required. No-one here has a clue what on the ground intel is being fed back to the west. We can't even guess and it be correct. I imagine though there are SF in theatre watching and listening to all and anything, knowing full well they'll be the next video feature if captured.

Long term? Not in my or your lifetime will it resolve. But somehow, it will eventually stabilise to either total despotic tyranny or not. History isn't on their side though. The west have historically fucked up the ME and probably irreparably.

[Foodlion]

I guess I'm the only one that doesn't mind Obama being on the golf course. Not like he's penning in some executive order out there. Keep him busy and away from politics. He can only make things worse by doing his job.

[albrecht]

You don't think Defense and CIA have contingency plans for various scenarios?  What is it you think they do at the Pentagon?

I would like to think that. But recall that Obama has been purging the military and various appointments to State Dept and DHS have questionable views of radical Islam and foreign policy decisions ("fuck the EU"- very diplomatic talk.) And like any other big bureaucracy they can miss things. Though, of course, everything seems like it should've been predicted after the event. But seriously this character Obama has done some serious damage to the military and other agencies. Remember one of his first acts was to say NASA's first priority was outreach to Islam?

[Catsmile]

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[Yorkshire pud]

You don't think Defense and CIA have contingency plans for various scenarios?  What is it you think they do at the Pentagon?

Every possible scenario? I would also suggest ISIS isn't imagination based. It's a dynamic multi faceted entity, that has no base, no country, no clear leadership, no ethos that you or I would class as civil or moral. Fighting a war with ghosts who pop up anywhere.

[The General]

If you ever wondered what the world would look like if the SDS, the CPUSA, and the Wobblies ran the US Gov't, you now know.  Where's HUAC now that we need them?  Whose side is our own Government on?

[NowhereInTime]

You don't think Defense and CIA have contingency plans for various scenarios?  What is it you think they do at the Pentagon?

Spend tons of cash, work contacts for contracts, set up cushy defense industry jobs after they retire on full pension, ignore massive cost overruns (ie: F-35), ignore basic force protection ("you go to war with the army you have"), issue no-bid contracts to companies for services which they've never before provided (ie: Halliburton running food logistics to troops in theater), underpay soldiers while ignoring cost overruns, tolerate cheating on proficiency exams by Air Force nuclear officers until whistles are blown, ignore massively disproportionate suicide rate of soldiers, ignore rape allegations of female service personnel...
Good Heavens, shall I go on?

The one thing it seems they don't do?  Accurately and adequately prepare for contingency scenarios.

[NowhereInTime]

Its what happens when there is a spineless academic/intellectual in the White House - same as when Wilson was there - everything they touch turns to shit...

Well, then we should elect a strong conservative that the terrorists will fear like Reagan and W., on whose respective watches no acts of terror were ever committed!

[Quick Karl]

Well, then we should elect a strong conservative that the terrorists will fear like Reagan and W., on whose respective watches no acts of terror were ever committed!

Exactly - glad to see you are starting to wise up...

Gaddafi actually piped the fuck down after Reagan bombed his ass.

[PB the Deplorable]

... Get the Kurd High command on board...

Get the Kurds on board? 

Our long time allies have been begging for weapons and ammo for months.

[PB the Deplorable]

I guess I'm the only one that doesn't mind Obama being on the golf course. Not like he's penning in some executive order out there. Keep him busy and away from politics. He can only make things worse by doing his job.

Every day it's more and more clear Obama was just the smiley face front man of the Leftist claque who got elected.

He could golf and party and fund raise and have photo ops all day, every day, but Valerie Jarrett and all those illegal 'czars' are still at the White House deciding on and implementing their next acts to weaken the US and the West.  Like a bunch of termites.

[PB the Deplorable]

Well, then we should elect a strong conservative that the terrorists will fear like Reagan and W., on whose respective watches no acts of terror were ever committed!

You want someone whose results closely resembled Obama's, look up Jimmy Carter's record.


By the way, if ISIL were to raise the black flag over the White House, as per their stated goal, do you think they would dispatch Obama or keep him on as governor of the Califate's al-North Amrika Provence?  He's sure been a big help to them so far, a hell of an asset.

[Quick Karl]

Spend tons of cash, work contacts for contracts, set up cushy defense industry jobs after they retire on full pension, ignore massive cost overruns (ie: F-35), ignore basic force protection ("you go to war with the army you have"), issue no-bid contracts to companies for services which they've never before provided (ie: Halliburton running food logistics to troops in theater), underpay soldiers while ignoring cost overruns, tolerate cheating on proficiency exams by Air Force nuclear officers until whistles are blown, ignore massively disproportionate suicide rate of soldiers, ignore rape allegations of female service personnel...
Good Heavens, shall I go on?

The one thing it seems they don't do?  Accurately and adequately prepare for contingency scenarios.

Yet you are pro big government?