One Hundred Years Ago

Rix Gins · December 20, 2020, 02:07:44 AM

From the Library of Congress. The Rock Island Argus and Daily Union., December 20, 1920.

Ciardelo · December 20, 2020, 11:08:37 AM

Seems there might be a firebug afoot!

Rix Gins · December 21, 2020, 02:37:07 AM

From the Library of Congress. The Rock Island Argus and Daily Union., December 21, 1920.

Rix Gins · December 21, 2020, 02:39:29 AM

December 20, & 21, 1920. Public Domain

WOTR · December 21, 2020, 02:48:22 AM

Quote from: Rix Gins on December 21, 2020, 02:37:07 AM
From the Library of Congress. The Rock Island Argus and Daily Union., December 21, 1920.

I have to admit that I am unfamiliar with the exact mechanism of a pardon. Does it expunge your record- or just release you from prison?

I was wondering why this would not be practiced today- but I assume that with parole hearings there are very few prisoners who actually reach the end of their sentence still in jail with just a few weeks of time left...

Rix Gins · December 21, 2020, 03:12:15 AM

Quote from: WOTR on December 21, 2020, 02:48:22 AM
I have to admit that I am unfamiliar with the exact mechanism of a pardon. Does it expunge your record- or just release you from prison?

I was wondering why this would not be practiced today- but I assume that with parole hearings there are very few prisoners who actually reach the end of their sentence still in jail with just a few weeks of time left...

I'm not sure, but I think it just releases you from prison. Don't quote me, but I think a lawyer is needed to get your criminal record expunged.

Ciardelo · December 21, 2020, 12:49:26 PM

Quote from: Rix Gins on December 21, 2020, 02:39:29 AM
December 20, & 21, 1920. Public Domain

Rix Gins · December 22, 2020, 02:14:37 AM

From the Library of Congress. The Rock Island Argus and daily union., December 22, 1920.

pate · December 22, 2020, 09:43:40 AM

Quote from: Rix Gins on December 22, 2020, 02:14:37 AM
From the Library of Congress. The Rock Island Argus and daily union., December 22, 1920.
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"...with drawn gats in their hands..." I have actually heard people (not many) refer to a gun as a "gat" before, I believe I have even heard it used in songs/rap, no idea where ~~they~~ the hobo elite came up with the word. I sort of just assumed it was some modern silliness, nonsensical code if you will, I am enlightened that it apparently has been in use for at least the past 100 years today.

K_Dubb Attend: The campaign needs to know the ultimate provenance of this use of "gat" for "gun." From the "Gatling Gun" of the middle 19th century or something more mysterious?

Thank you in advance! It is an honor to serve.

pate/K_Dubb 2020
"We are going to fix this shit"

K_Dubb · December 22, 2020, 10:32:21 AM

Quote from: pate on December 22, 2020, 09:43:40 AM
K_Dubb Attend: The campaign needs to know the ultimate provenance of this use of "gat" for "gun." From the "Gatling Gun" of the middle 19th century or something more mysterious?

I have never heard that before! Gatling gun was my first thought, too, but as a reference for a handgun that seems unreasonably oblique.

Rix Gins · December 22, 2020, 02:50:07 PM

Quote from: K_Dubb on December 22, 2020, 10:32:21 AM
I have never heard that before! Gatling gun was my first thought, too, but as a reference for a handgun that seems unreasonably oblique.

An item of trivia. There is a 1934 western starring John Wayne called West of the Divide. Wayne played a peace officer heading into a town where there were lots of bad guys. On the way he came upon a desperado who had just drank some water out of a pool where the poison sign had fallen down in the weeds. Wayne watched the bad guy die and noticed that he matched a wanted poster, so, as there was a slight resemblance between the two, he took the place of the bad guy in order to get in like flint with the nest of rattlesnakes. The dead man's name was Gat Ganns.

pate · December 22, 2020, 08:25:54 PM

Quote from: Rix Gins on December 22, 2020, 02:50:07 PM
An item of trivia. There is a 1934 western starring John Wayne called West of the Divide. Wayne played a peace officer heading into a town where there were lots of bad guys. On the way he came upon a desperado who had just drank some water out of a pool where the poison sign had fallen down in the weeds. Wayne watched the bad guy die and noticed that he matched a wanted poster, so, as there was a slight resemblance between the two, he took the place of the bad guy in order to get in like flint with the nest of rattlesnakes. The dead man's name was Gat Ganns.

I will have to see if I can find it... When the Army was training me to work on helicopters there was a guy in my class that looked like John Wayne, possibly much like the dead guy and the wanted poster.

Thanks Rix; of course in 14 years you will remember to post something about "West of the Divide" on the 100th anniversary of its premier: and then quote this post in your "Fun look at old Bellgab posts."

-p

Ciardelo · December 22, 2020, 08:30:11 PM

Quote from: pate on December 22, 2020, 08:25:54 PMThere is a 1934 western starring John Wayne called West of the Divide.

Available for "free" on AMZN Prime video. It's only 54 minutes long, I might have to watch it tonight.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0025969/

ETA: Written, directed & screenplay by Robert N. Bradbury.
Near as I can tell from a quick search, no relation to Gene...RCH would know for sure tho.

Rix Gins · December 22, 2020, 09:30:52 PM

Quote from: pate on December 22, 2020, 08:25:54 PM
I will have to see if I can find it... When the Army was training me to work on helicopters there was a guy in my class that looked like John Wayne, possibly much like the dead guy and the wanted poster.

Thanks Rix; of course in 14 years you will remember to post something about "West of the Divide" on the 100th anniversary of its premier: and then quote this post in your "Fun look at old Bellgab posts."

-p

Ha, I'll try to make it for another 14 years. Enjoy the movie, pate!

Rix Gins · December 22, 2020, 09:40:25 PM

Quote from: Ciardelo on December 22, 2020, 08:30:11 PM
Available for "free" on AMZN Prime video. It's only 54 minutes long, I might have to watch it tonight.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0025969/

ETA: Written, directed & screenplay by Robert N. Bradbury.
Near as I can tell from a quick search, no relation to Gene...RCH would know for sure tho.

Bradbury directed a number of Wayne's early pictures.

Ciardelo · December 22, 2020, 11:57:08 PM

Quote from: Rix Gins on December 22, 2020, 09:40:25 PM
Bradbury directed a number of Wayne's early pictures.

I see.

Still not related to Gene Roddenberry. I guess I was having a crossed wire or something.

Rix Gins · December 23, 2020, 02:31:02 AM

From the Library of Congress. The Rock Island Argus and Daily Union., December 23, 1920.

Rix Gins · December 23, 2020, 02:40:16 AM

December 23, 1920. Public Domain

Ciardelo · December 23, 2020, 09:04:07 AM

Quote from: Rix Gins on December 23, 2020, 02:31:02 AM
From the Library of Congress. The Rock Island Argus and Daily Union., December 23, 1920.

Hell or Waukegan eh?

Rix Gins · December 24, 2020, 02:31:17 AM

From the Library of Congress. The Rock Island Argus and Daily Union., December 24, 1920.

Rix Gins · December 24, 2020, 02:46:18 AM

December 24, 1920. Public Domain

Rix Gins · December 26, 2020, 01:48:08 AM

December 25, 1920. Public Domain

WOTR · December 26, 2020, 02:18:48 PM

Quote from: Rix Gins on December 24, 2020, 02:31:17 AM
From the Library of Congress. The Rock Island Argus and Daily Union., December 24, 1920.

Can you imagine with the early state of anestesia, infection and pain killers how badly you would want straight legs to have them deliberately broke? I don't even think that I would chose that today knowing that I would be fully under...

That miner is rather lucky. Not enough oxygen for his lamp to light, but didn't die of the atmosphere? I'm sure he probably considered it a "Christmas miracle."

albrecht · December 26, 2020, 03:40:43 PM

Quote from: Rix Gins on December 24, 2020, 02:31:17 AM
From the Library of Congress. The Rock Island Argus and Daily Union., December 24, 1920.

This story reminded me of the recent Air National Guard plane that went down in the UP and they couldn't find the pilot. "Fallen into the hands of traders or being cared for by Indians?" 100 years ago. What kind of traders and why would that be a concern?