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Art Bell Quits Dark Matter

Started by DesertFox, November 01, 2013, 08:13:24 AM

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Quote from: tertiaryimam on November 08, 2013, 06:11:15 PM
The Tertiary Imam show, now on Indie 104 Sirius XM:

"Published author Tertiary Imam is a sit-down message-board comic who lives in the Midwest and has been sober for 4 years this past October. A high school drop out and former alcoholic, Tertiary feeds his ADD with paranormal radio, going to the store, rooting for Falkie and watching crappy shows like The Dog Whisperer."

10/10 would listen again!!!11!

tertiaryimam

Quote from: maren on November 08, 2013, 06:08:07 PM
For some reason, I was under the impression that they'd initially said "no" -- THEN Art came back with more "incentives".  If I'm correct, they did tell Art and it was fait accompli as far as Sirius was concerned.  Granted, I may have misunderstood.


Damn, I think you're right. I forgot about this.

CornyCrow

My husband and I have the TTR1 radios.  They both had a 'NETWORK TIMEOUT' error early this morning.  He was listening to MSNBC and I was listening to CNN.  Our WiFi signal was great.  We could still access our programming through the web.  The radios were down for hours.  Pulling the plug and rebooting did nothing.  We found, on the web, that Sirius often asks people to do a 'factory reset' (a setting on the radios which makes the user go through a lot of re-entry of data and also reset their favorite channels). 

This seems bogus to us because both radios going out at the same time is too much of a coincidence to be an internal problem with the radio electronics.  We tend to think that their satellite sent some kind of scrambling signal to the radios.  Sometime after 9:00 in the morning the machines worked fine.  It seemed as though some employee came in, saw a problem, and fixed it.  We sent an email to Sirius because they do not have 24/7 help.  We have not yet got an answer and it is 7:00 at night.  The website said they give themselves 48 hours to address problems. 

If Sirius had gotten its act together after all these years, then shows like Arts might work for them in getting new subscribers.  Right now, if Art is the main reason they considered signing up for, why should they when the service is so shoddy? 

If Art did not sign up to this new program for money (and I really have trouble thinking that's the case.  His parts do not come cheaply, do they?), then he's likely doing it for ego and trying to dwarf his former show and the gnome now in charge of it.  He cannot do that with the current Sirius setup, can he?  I can understand how that might feel.  At his age he does not have an eternity to build a new audience, especially when he now has so many who want to hear him.

Sirius may very well not allow the free streaming because they no longer have much faith in their own shoddy product.   

midnight

Quote from: tertiaryimam on November 08, 2013, 06:11:15 PM
The Tertiary Imam show, now on Indie 104 Sirius XM:

"Published author Tertiary Imam is a sit-down message-board comic who lives in the Midwest and has been sober for 4 years this past October. A high school drop out and former alcoholic, Tertiary feeds his ADD with paranormal radio, going to the store, rooting for Falkie and watching crappy shows like The Dog Whisperer."

I'd  pay for that.  :)

Bigfoot

Quote from: malachi.martini on November 08, 2013, 06:08:34 PM
You said it Bigfoot.  Great call earlier, you didn't sound anything like I expected.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OmzzsjGQ7o

It's a tough job, but someone's got to howl and grunt incessantly and stalk around rural farmhouses spooking families.


zeebo

Quote from: midnight on November 08, 2013, 05:30:49 PM
If all Art would be doing is strictly streaming a straight live show with no backwards, forwards, replays, archives, etc. like Sirius has, then would not his live stream bring in MORE subs to Sirius, not less?

I think that's the gist of the argument Art's making to Sirius.  Actually makes a lot of sense to me, but then again I have no idea how these big business deals work at all.

Suzeca

Hi everyone
Im not exactly new here but this is my first post.
I think Art is being treated unfairly. Whats the big deal. Sirius is already allowing others to be Independent Broadcasters whats with the double standard going on here. Art hasnt done a thing wrong except look out for us.

My other thought is this. Unless people are standing smack in the middle of the fire the way he is, no one has any room or any right to point fingers and criticize him.

zeebo

Quote from: aldousburbank on November 08, 2013, 05:33:41 PM
My vote for stupid thing at top of page. MV, please arrange this.

Haha yes, I dare to dream ...  :)

retired41

its in the mail , all is done a new show rises soon.

Xavier

Is it possible...just maybe... that we helped create this Art Bell Frankenstein Monster? We've all been kissing his ass pretty good around here...maybe the guy just got too full of himself. Yeah I know he's flakey but I've always just attributed that to his bat-shit crazy personal life etc. There's something different about this...arrogance perhaps?  Who knows but it is pretty clear that he misjudged what our reaction to all of this would be. I, for one, am glad that a great many of us are fed up with this nonsense and have abstained from giving him a free pass.
I would love for Art to return but if he doesn't I'll be fine. Now I have to run...gotta get my audition tape ready. I hear there's an opening at Sirius.

Snowdoggie

Quote from: CornyCrow on November 08, 2013, 06:13:47 PM
My husband and I have the TTR1 radios.  They both had a 'NETWORK TIMEOUT' error early this morning.  He was listening to MSNBC and I was listening to CNN.  Our WiFi signal was great.  We could still access our programming through the web.  The radios were down for hours.  Pulling the plug and rebooting did nothing.  We found, on the web, that Sirius often asks people to do a 'factory reset' (a setting on the radios which makes the user go through a lot of re-entry of data and also reset their favorite channels). 

This seems bogus to us because both radios going out at the same time is too much of a coincidence to be an internal problem with the radio electronics.  We tend to think that their satellite sent some kind of scrambling signal to the radios.  Sometime after 9:00 in the morning the machines worked fine.  It seemed as though some employee came in, saw a problem, and fixed it.  We sent an email to Sirius because they do not have 24/7 help.  We have not yet got an answer and it is 7:00 at night.  The website said they give themselves 48 hours to address problems. 

If Sirius had gotten its act together after all these years, then shows like Arts might work for them in getting new subscribers.  Right now, if Art is the main reason they considered signing up for, why should they when the service is so shoddy? 

If Art did not sign up to this new program for money (and I really have trouble thinking that's the case.  His parts do not come cheaply, do they?), then he's likely doing it for ego and trying to dwarf his former show and the gnome now in charge of it.  He cannot do that with the current Sirius setup, can he?  I can understand how that might feel.  At his age he does not have an eternity to build a new audience, especially when he now has so many who want to hear him.

Sirius may very well not allow the free streaming because they no longer have much faith in their own shoddy product.

I have an old Kenwood KTC-H2A1 Here 2 Anywhere unit that I bought back in 2003 when Sirius first went on the air. That old sucker STILL works perfectly even though it is over 10 years old!

Quote from: Suzeca on November 08, 2013, 06:20:06 PM
Hi everyone
Im not exactly new here but this is my first post.
I think Art is being treated unfairly. Whats the big deal. Sirius is already allowing others to be Independent Broadcasters whats with the double standard going on here. Art hasnt done a thing wrong except look out for us.

My other thought is this. Unless people are standing smack in the middle of the fire the way he is, no one has any room or any right to point fingers criticize him.

I doubt it's about the independent status and more to do with criticizing SiriusXM publicly on his way out. I'm sure he has fans there, otherwise they wouldn't have made him an offer in the first place but he handled business poorly and may not be worth the headache, even with this new offer on the table. I have to take exception with your last comment though - people who waited years for Art's return and had radios/subs waiting for the first episode of Dark Matter shouldn't be able to air any grievances about walking after six weeks because listeners using a free 30 day trial complained about the internet stream? Give me a break.

Quote from: tertiaryimam on November 08, 2013, 06:11:15 PM
The Tertiary Imam show, now on Indie 104 Sirius XM:

"Published author Tertiary Imam is a sit-down message-board comic who lives in the Midwest and has been sober for 4 years this past October. A high school drop out and former alcoholic, Tertiary feeds his ADD with paranormal radio, going to the store, rooting for Falkie and watching crappy shows like The Dog Whisperer."

I'd tune in.

jazmunda

Quote from: maren on November 08, 2013, 06:08:07 PM
For some reason, I was under the impression that they'd initially said "no" -- THEN Art came back with more "incentives".  If I'm correct, they did tell Art and it was fait accompli as far as Sirius was concerned.  Granted, I may have misunderstood.

Sadly this could in fact be what's happening.

If I had an employee who effectively quit then a few days later put forward a proposition that may or may not benefit me I probably wouldn't be answering calls or emails either. I would have moved on as have Sirius apparently as evidenced by the lineup changes, On Demand expiration, Art web afiliation erasure and employee terminations.

I hope I am wrong and just being a pessimist.

I implore Art to engage with a lawyer, if he hadn't already, one that preferably has experience in entertainment laws.

Perhaps Sirius will respond to legalese. They might understand that language.

Having no open lines of communication can't be a good thing.

Bigfoot

Quote from: Suzeca on November 08, 2013, 06:20:06 PM
Hi everyone
Im not exactly new here but this is my first post.
I think Art is being treated unfairly. Whats the big deal. Sirius is already allowing others to be Independent Broadcasters whats with the double standard going on here. Art hasnt done a thing wrong except look out for us.

My other thought is this. Unless people are standing smack in the middle of the fire the way he is, no one has any room or any right to point fingers criticize him.

The "double standard" probably relates back to fact that he only stuck around for 6 weeks, and the first week hadn't passed before he started making demands.  Sirius is probably wondering why the hell he didn't pursue that route prior to entering the contract with them.  They also might think he's a PITA that will continue making more and more demands.

And no, he's not looking out for you.  He's looking out for #1, which is all anybody can ever expect from anyone. 

Also, everyone will always have room and right to point fingers and criticize anything and anyone, thank you very much.  Thought moderators be damned. 

Quote from: jazmunda on November 08, 2013, 06:27:15 PM
I implore Art to engage with a lawyer, if he hadn't already, one that preferably has experience in entertainment laws.

It's cool, Andy, he's got Bob Crane to bounce ideas off of. No need for someone who might know something.

jazmunda

Quote from: CornyCrow on November 08, 2013, 06:13:47 PM
My husband and I have the TTR1 radios.  They both had a 'NETWORK TIMEOUT' error early this morning.  He was listening to MSNBC and I was listening to CNN.  Our WiFi signal was great.  We could still access our programming through the web.  The radios were down for hours.  Pulling the plug and rebooting did nothing.  We found, on the web, that Sirius often asks people to do a 'factory reset' (a setting on the radios which makes the user go through a lot of re-entry of data and also reset their favorite channels). 



I wasn't aware that there was an issue with the actual radios losing network connectivity.




What's everyone here do when they're not mulling the intricacies of Art's exit strategies? 

What are you passionate about?

I feel like I only really know Coz, and his multitude of forms. lol

Catsmile

Quote from: ItsOver on November 08, 2013, 05:13:26 PM
Hahahah....geesh.  The truckers.  Those damn truckers. 

Yes! Those mother trucking, truckers truck up everything.  >:(

Quote from: Suzeca on November 08, 2013, 06:20:06 PM
Hi everyone
Im not exactly new here but this is my first post.
I think Art is being treated unfairly. Whats the big deal. Sirius is already allowing others to be Independent Broadcasters whats with the double standard going on here. Art hasnt done a thing wrong except look out for us.

My other thought is this. Unless people are standing smack in the middle of the fire the way he is, no one has any room or any right to point fingers and criticize him.

Hi Suzeca!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

Snowdoggie

Quote from: Mels-hole1984 on November 08, 2013, 06:32:14 PM
Don't know if this was posted yet but here you go...


Hitler Discovers Art Bell's Dark Matter Has Been Cancled

Congratulations Sirius/XM. You just pissed off the truckers and the Nazis. No word on the surfers yet.

HorrorRetro

Quote from: sherry440 on November 08, 2013, 05:43:04 PM
I don't mind being called guys and gals, as long as the unnecessary apostrophe is dropped since a plural word does not need one.


That apostrophe issue is maddening.  Calling women "gals" is not an issue and kind of cute actually.

Quote from: jazmunda on November 08, 2013, 06:31:43 PM
I wasn't aware that there was an issue with the actual radios losing network connectivity.

I've never had an issue with my satellite radio but if there are problems with the app/web player, I don't see why there wouldn't be some with cheaper, WiFi only radios too. I'm curious what their "long term solution" for the stream is, what's the ETA... is anything in motion yet?

maren

Quote from: jazmunda on November 08, 2013, 06:27:15 PM

I implore Art to engage with a lawyer, if he hadn't already, one that preferably has experience in entertainment laws.

Perhaps Sirius will respond to legalese. They might understand that language.

Having no open lines of communication can't be a good thing.

I agree that Art needs -- or should have had -- legal/expert representation.  But coming after them now might be dicey.  They may be inclined to just let him go, as evidenced by their waiving of the 30 day clause, but if the suits show up at the door, that might put them in fighting mode.  At this point it may be best to just not stir the waters and hope to excape relatively unscathed. 

Quote from: malachi.martini on November 08, 2013, 06:32:49 PM

What's everyone here do when they're not mulling the intricacies of Art's exit strategies? 

What are you passionate about?

I feel like I only really know Coz, and his multitude of forms. lol

Coz memes and sobbing over my satellite radio.




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