Art Bell

[HorrorReporter]

Has he elaborated on Facebook?

Not publicly but.. Maybe a little. Not publicly though

[HorrorReporter]

Just listened to a show on the steam from oct 28 2006. A caller complained to Art about the direction Noory was taking the show. Art stated that the show will change over time, and that people needed to get used to it. He seemed to defend George.

I Don't think he listened much to his co-host then .. I don't think he listens at all now. In a sense he needed to defend Noory then perhaps because he had more of a financial interest and because just maybe he had hopes snores would end up getting better ...?
Maybe

[HorrorReporter]

did i hear somewhere that this was the first time art actually met snoors in person?

I believe you are correct

[HorrorReporter]

The only thing I remember Art saying was "he gets it" in reference to noory's understanding of the paranormal. He also made several statements to how hard working gn was.

I really liked how Art handled his show... everything else, Art was a bit of a derp.

The 'he gets it' comment is true. Maybe Noory did get it.. Dare I say OLDER Noory shows were relatively ok. More boring and less fun but decent... Compared to now Noory then did get it ... Now he, well, we all know what he is now

[HorrorReporter]

I think a hunch and perhaps a little birdie tells me that hearing 'the chase' and 'inca dance' as music anchors to the show are grains of salt in the wounds to Art Bell.

[Morgus]

Art Bell never elaborated on what he meant exactly by his "he gets it" comment regarding Noory.
Art might have meant that Noory "gets" the  new order working under the PremRat bosses, which Art didn't have to do when he started his show.

[HorrorReporter]

Art Bell never elaborated on what he meant exactly by his "he gets it" comment regarding Noory.
Art might have meant that Noory "gets" the  new order working under the PremRat bosses, which Art didn't have to do when he started his show.

True.. What he 'got' we did not know .. Clearly though circa 2012 Noory gets nothing .. I picture him and tommy going to seafood restaurants and him leaving smelling like cheap cologne, shrimp and Pabst. Then they play 'The Chase' as though it was his idea. Then the thunder clap sounds like it was his idea... All like Art never existed.

Art Bell got it. Noory not so much.

[Sardondi]

And, I don't think back then Art realized what a lazy idiot George really was/is, or he would not have had him on as a fill in host after more than a couple shows.  I doubt Art listened to the shows the nights he was off, and probably dismissed any complaints he heard about George at the time....

I kinda think Art's attitude was like that of almost 100% of the people hearing him for the first time: "Gee, what a sweet guy!". The problem for Noory is that that initial attitude changes very soon for about half of those who hear him, until about as many who at first think he's a nice guy soon change to where they think Noory is the incubator of the missing 8th Plague of Egypt. God had intended to unleash an 8th Plague against Pharaoh and the Egyptians but hadn't used it because He thought the first 7 plagues were bad enough.

The problem for Noory today stems from the fact God just absent-mindedly stashed the unleashed 8th Plague (called the Plague of Ignorance, Arrogance, Sloth and Self-Satisfaction) by hanging it on some massive fir trees near the Mediterranean in the northern range of the Fertile Crescent. An area we call Lebanon today.

Everything would have been okay if it had stayed like that. But God's little buddies, the Hebrews, sort of took advantage of the fact God was their big pal. They moved out of Egypt without giving notice, wandered around for awhile, and finally squatted in a bunch of mud tenements someplace near The Dead Sea. The Hebrews started kicking people out, and over the years they built stuff to suit them, like a temple.

Which meant they needed some big-ass fir trees for building. You can see where it's going from here. God had forgotten about that blasted 8th Plague which he'd left hanging around in the famous Cedars of Lebanon. Sure enough, the 8th Plague, of Ignorance, Arrogance, Sloth and Self-Satisfaction - arguably the most terrible - was hanging on a massive cedar on some land belonging to a Lebanese by the name of N'hoori. N'hoori sold his cedars to the Hebrews and so cut them down, thereby unleashing the 8th Plague on his own family forever.

Thus it has plagued the first-born male children of the N'hoori line. It manifests as extreme likeability. But unfortunately this characteristic lasts only until a person's second encounter, when the sufferer seems vain, incredibly stupid, lazy and happy to continue with things unchanged. To escape the plague the N'hooris left Lebanon for America, where they changed the family name to "Noory". But the plague still visits the line. As we see with George.   

So we see it's really not Art's fault if he at first thought George was the greatest thing around: he was incapable of any other initial response. 

[DAE]

I love that idea of having his own monthly podcast.  Really, so much can be done without a huge effort or change of pace on his part.  There doesn't even need to be a show per se, just phone call interviews at any frequency that Art wants. With his insight now after-the-fact, he could even stand at the helm of a brand new show, with hosts that he picks carefully. True, I'd like to hear him back on the air. But mostly I just want to see his legacy continue somehow, if not as a financial venue to leave his wife and daughter.  He really does have a lot of power... to gather up again an audience quickly and his usual array of guests would come running too perhaps. 

[minim]

As to why Art left in the first place - my first assumption was that he was seen as too much of a loose cannon by certain "powers that be" (I don't have any inside information - just a feeling) and was intimidated behind the scenes - threatened, possibly - and it just got too hot around here. This also makes some sense of uprooting and re-locating to south east Asia.

As to George Gnaw-ey (he chews his words and strikes me as rodent-like) - he seems safer, more compliant and much less of a threat to the establishment.

I'm sure Art could re-establish another competing radio talk show and very quickly not only eclipse the current C2C in ratings, but threaten it's existence, as the listeners and the most interesting guests given the choice between the two shows would flock to Art's show, whatever it was called. I think the advertisers would also cross-migrate if the ratings were higher than Coast 2 Coast. The transitionary period would be tricky, though, as the networks have their loyalties, not to speak of contracts.

[DAE]

I think the advertisers would also cross-migrate if the ratings were higher than Coast 2 Coast.

Art could start his new show here on this forum.  After all, this forum thread alone as more views than George's total listeners.

[ziznak]

google "george noory sucks" and you find us near the top...

[Sleepwalker]

Somewhere in Time is on the C2C website for tonight.  Is Premiere disregarding Art's wishes that they cease and desist?

[BobGrau]

Somewhere in Time is on the C2C website for tonight.  Is Premiere disregarding Art's wishes that they cease and desist?

I'd be surprised if they stopped it, I'm fairly sure they own the shows. In fact I'm a little surprised Art raised the subject at all. Did he say this in response to somebody's question on facebook, or did he just post it out of the blue?

[b_dubb]

I'd be surprised if they stopped it, I'm fairly sure they own the shows. In fact I'm a little surprised Art raised the subject at all. Did he say this in response to somebody's question on facebook, or did he just post it out of the blue?

Out of the blue

[MV/Liberace!]

I'd be surprised if they stopped it, I'm fairly sure they own the shows. In fact I'm a little surprised Art raised the subject at all. Did he say this in response to somebody's question on facebook, or did he just post it out of the blue?

Out of the blue

you see... this is what annoys me about art.  he gives people just a tidbit of information to get them all chattering, but doesn't give the real story or any of the answers people really want.  i'm not saying people DESERVE any answers, but it was HE who started the conversation!  if he's not willing to comment further, particularly if he just posted this out of the blue, he shouldn't have commented at all. this guy really raises my blood pressure sometimes.  sorry.  that's just how i see it.  i haven't forgotten about his "big announcement" from last year which he KNEW would be interpreted as a return to radio.  didn't it turn out to be a new toaster oven or something on that order?  just stop it, already.  fucking christ in a car seat.  and to anyone who says i shouldn't post such things because art might not post here any longer if i do:  blow me.

[BobGrau]

and to anyone who says i shouldn't post such things because art might not post here any longer if i do:  blow me.

A good example of what makes this a forum worth posting on.

[McPhallus]

Agree totally.  He knows people are literally salivating for any hint he may be returning.  He reminds me of those entertainers who are addicted to their audience and will do anything to avoid losing their interest.

you see... this is what annoys me about art.  he gives people just a tidbit of information to get them all chattering, but doesn't give the real story or any of the answers people really want.  i'm not saying people DESERVE any answers, but it was HE who started the conversation!  if he's not willing to comment further, particularly if he just posted this out of the blue, he shouldn't have commented at all. this guy really raises my blood pressure sometimes.  sorry.  that's just how i see it.  i haven't forgotten about his "big announcement" from last year which he KNEW would be interpreted as a return to radio.  didn't it turn out to be a new toaster oven or something on that order?  just stop it, already.  fucking christ in a car seat.  and to anyone who says i shouldn't post such things because art might not post here any longer if i do:  blow me.

[The General]

As PT Barnum said... "This way to the Egress!"

[Sy-Klone]

I believe that Premiere Radio owns the old Art Bell content. If so, they don't have to stop broadcasting them simply because Art requests it, and frankly, I'd be surprised if they did (absent a court order, which I don't see as likely because they own the content).

If Premiere wanted to be nice, they would stop. It's not like it'd be the most difficult thing to do. They could revamp those broadcasts as "Somewhere in Time" (no reference to Art Bell) and just air archived Noory/Punnett shows from 2003-2007.

Speaking selfishly, I'd be disappointed if they stopped broadcasting classic Art Bell. The availability of "new" content (i.e. content not already out there) would dry up, which would be a shame.

My guess as to what is going on? I doubt it's because Art has something new in the works. It may be because Premiere have chosen to broadcast classic episodes with kooky, bizarre, weird guests, and looking at them in the rearview mirror, Art doesn't like being associated with them. At the time, he had a different perspective. But some shows don't look good in retrospect. See: Every Ed Dames show with Art ever. See also: Gordon Michael Scallion and his predictions of "doom!" See also: David John Oates's reverse speech bologna. Etc.

[jazmunda]

Somewhere in Time is on the C2C website for tonight.  Is Premiere disregarding Art's wishes that they cease and desist?

Unfortunately this weeks SIT is an episode that exists in the "archives". The majority of the SIT are "new" classic shows and that is why it would be a shame for SIT to disappear. Better to acquire them from the devil than it not to exist at all.

[PB the Deplorable]

The exact quote....

Art Bell
4:19pm (15 minutes ago) near Pahrump, NV ·
I have made a request that Premiere Radio cease Broadcasting the Saturday "Somewhere in Time" shows.

If he really wanted to help humanity Art should have requested Premiere Radio cease broadcasting George Noory shows, or, just cease broadcasting.

[onan]

you see... this is what annoys me about art.  he gives people just a tidbit of information to get them all chattering, but doesn't give the real story or any of the answers people really want.  i'm not saying people DESERVE any answers, but it was HE who started the conversation!  if he's not willing to comment further, particularly if he just posted this out of the blue, he shouldn't have commented at all. this guy really raises my blood pressure sometimes.  sorry.  that's just how i see it.  i haven't forgotten about his "big announcement" from last year which he KNEW would be interpreted as a return to radio.  didn't it turn out to be a new toaster oven or something on that order?  just stop it, already.  fucking christ in a car seat.  and to anyone who says i shouldn't post such things because art might not post here any longer if i do:  blow me.

This has been my gut feeling on art for about a year now. And yet I still want him back on the air. Fuck.

[Juan]

If Premiere did decide to honor Art's request, it would take a little time to do.  They'd have to decide what they were going to air (probably old sNoory and Ian shows), decide specifically which shows to air for the first few weeks, get new voice-overs written, then cut, decide how to promote the shows and get those voice-overs done, update the website, etc.  They would probably have to review their advertising contracts to be sure the switch didn't violate any agreements with advertisers. 

In other words, this weekend is too soon for a big corporation to make the switch. Doesn't mean that Art was ignored or that they won't make the switch eventually.

As for Art - he's a showman who understands promotion. I love his teases.

[Sardondi]

you see... this is what annoys me about art.  he gives people just a tidbit of information to get them all chattering, but doesn't give the real story or any of the answers people really want.  i'm not saying people DESERVE any answers, but it was HE who started the conversation!  if he's not willing to comment further, particularly if he just posted this out of the blue, he shouldn't have commented at all. this guy really raises my blood pressure sometimes.  sorry.  that's just how i see it.  i haven't forgotten about his "big announcement" from last year which he KNEW would be interpreted as a return to radio.  didn't it turn out to be a new toaster oven or something on that order?  just stop it, already.  fucking christ in a car seat.  and to anyone who says i shouldn't post such things because art might not post here any longer if i do:  blow me.

We don't know the contract details and it's not clear if Premiere clearly has the right to continue playing the shows. Maybe they do and Art has asked them as a favor to stop (good luck with that!). I'm sure Art didn't sell the shows outright, but only licensed their use for a certain period.

But Art is quite aware of his legion of loyal fans, and he's making use of them with his Facebook announcement. Sort of cynical, but then Premiere isn't about to make any decision based on right or wrong, fair or unfair: it's going to be only the bottom line which counts. So if they think Art could cause a revolt which affects their advertisers or listeners, then they conceivably might be more willing to deal with Art. As generally secretive as Art is about most stuff, I just can't imagine he has no underlying purpose in mentioning this on Facebook.

[cmotors]

Maybe he's just trying to distance himself from C2C, since he has said that he doesn't like the direction the show has gone. Using his name and content is a benefit to the show and maybe he just doesn't want C2C to continue using him as a part of their ongoing business. Who really knows who has the right.  However, just the fact that Art has publicly let everyone know that he has asked for the removal of his shows, sends a further symbolic message that he has disowned C2C. Whether C2C does so or not, may not be the important part of this. Instead of a big drama fest of hows and whys, and the resultant public firing of salvos from camp C2C at camp Bell and vice versa, a simple public request imparts the same message to everyone without the mess. I'm sure we'd all like the whole scoop and the resultant pissing match as our entertainment though, but I suspect Art wouldn't.

We'd all like to read into it as being a precursor for something else, but that is just wishful thinking and can distort the original intent. I know I am wishful for it meaning something more. Just one night a week Art, c'mon!!! Don't think of it as trying to destroy or hurt C2C! If anything, do it for the love of it and the fans (even if some of them are idiots).

[VtaGeezer]

I check here occasionally to read the rationalizations of Bell's pump & dump of C2C and its loyal listeners.  Like he gives a rat's ass after the pot he walked away with.  Get over Art, folks; he sure as hell got over you.

[onan]

WTF Art quit?

[aldousburbank]

WTF Art quit?

No, he quit again... I think.

[minim]

I check here occasionally to read the rationalizations of Bell's pump & dump of C2C and its loyal listeners.  Like he gives a rat's ass after the pot he walked away with.  Get over Art, folks; he sure as hell got over you.

I think this has the ring of truth, unfortunately.