George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium

[stevesh]

At one point during the show last night, Noory asked guest Ty Bollinger if he ever faced any opposition to his advocacy of 'natural' medicine. He replied that he did and had been attacked by several people just that day, and went into Noory 'little-hater' mode, complaining about people on the Internet hiding behind anonimity and saying negative things about him they wouldn't say to his face.

I'm going to flatter myself and other CoastGabbers and assume he was talkng about us, and I'm also going to assume he'll be back to see what we have to say post-show. So I'd like to offer a challenge to Mr. Bollinger:

You seem like a pretty good guy, so don't just whine about the mean people here. Step up and engage us. We can't do you any real damage, and you might just convince some here to see you in a different light. I'll start with two issues:

1) Carnivora. It may well be the greatest thing since ice cream, but the way it's advertised suggests that it's just another worthless snake oil 'remedy'. I defy anyone here without a serious medical background to read the information in the pubmed links on the Carnivora website and tell me what they mean. My point in my previous post was that you damage your overall credibility when you sign on to be the spokesman for outfits like this.

2) Infant mortality. Last night you claimed that the United States' poor showing internationally in infant mortality statistics is the result of vaccination. I hope CoastGabbers like ChewMouse and others here with experience in the medical profession will correct/confirm this, but it's my understanding that our poor showing in that area stems from the fact that we try to save a lot more babies in the US. Seriously premature babies which would be counted as stillborn in most other countries are placed on life support here. Their survival rate isn't all that good, but we tried, and the deaths count against us in the statistics, unlike those countries who assume the same baby is stillborn. Also, do we vaccinate infants ?

[stevesh]

I've been lurking around here for a couple of weeks and have found this thread to be a kindred spirit of sorts. I have listened to Coast to Coast since October of 1998 (Ghost to Ghost of that year was actually my first show) and what I attempted to listen to last night was not Ghost to Ghost. I lasted I think until about the third hour and then had to shut it off. I too have noticed George's bumbling and simple-minded ineptness during interviews now over the last couple of years (I know it's gone on longer than that but it's only been the last year or so where I really began noticing it). Not really listening to his guests, repeating questions after the guest has already answered that question maybe ten or fifteen minutes before, interrupting them, everything that has been covered in this thread basically. I used to listen nightly. Then I became selective, and now I barely listen at all. Maybe here and there. I will still catch Ian's shows, and George Knapp on Sundays...John Wells started off all right but then started to irritate me as well. It's really sad what's happening.

I can remember a while ago, probably sometime last year, a caller phoned in and tried to note (Ian was hosting that night) how different Coast had become in recent time and while Ian was his usual diplomatic self basically dismissed her concerns and said that it is still the same show that it had always been. That was when I knew that I was not alone and noticed the change as well. It's not the same show. I thought Mike Siegel's time was bad...but this might be worse. I was a big Noory fan at first as well...but not any more. Just thought I'd toss in my own frustrated experience.

Welcome, and be advised that if you call C2C and use your CoastGab screen name, Simple George will address you as 'Darkie'.

[Bmassie]

I am just glad their are more then one group of haters talking about his suckage,i love that tommy fairy tale about starting a foundation and randomly paying for strangers food while out.i hate how they lie for each other.

[Sardondi]

I wonder if maybe the Ghost-to-Ghost 2012 sucked so hard that maybe the suits are starting to feel a rumble from below.

[ItsOver]

As if Noory's ghost-to-ghost suckfest wasn't enough, Noory is hosting Sunday night as well this weekend........

Thanks for the warning, Morgus. Gack....along with the ear-shattering submerging artists, I presume. 

[Eddie Coyle]

I don't know. You seem to have a full quiver of sarcasm.

This is true...but often it veers into vulgar slander. Could it be (my lesser) Angels?

[Jasmine]

Yes, Bob Pittman and I continue to email Lisa Lyons, Tom, Tim, Stephanie, Lex, Shawn, and D. Brady@PremiereRadio.com....

Never give up!

I believe this is what's needed; an earnest and unrelenting email campaign to viable contacts at Premiere Radio. That said, include the insignificant ones in the emails, too (Noory and his dipshit producers, Tommy Boy and Lisa Lying).

Our collective and continued listening of the horrid C2C with Snoory brought to mind an old Saturday Night Live (SNL) skit. In the sketch, a family is sitting around the kitchen table, eating breakfast. The mom takes a carton of milk from the fridge, opens it, takes a whiff, and almost vomits from the stench. "Oh, God! This milk! It's rancid!". The milk carton is passed around the table, where, one by one, each family member takes a whiff, almost gags, and shouts out their own repulsion with the rancid milk. This is repeated with a container of cottage cheese and one other food item gone bad.

...we all know C2C and Noory are rancid and well past their sell-by date, yet we all continue to, from time to time (and some more frequently than others) take a whiff, knowing damn well we're going to be repulsed and sick to our tum-tums. 

[b_dubb]

Coast can't be saved. You could no sooner save Coast than you could make Art 30 years old again

[MikeJ]

Does anyone know what the ratings are for this show?  I imagine that given its overnight time slot (at least on the east coast) ratings expectations are pretty low, but even still, has there been a serious decline since Art totally abandoned the sinking ship?  Does anyone know what the ratings were when Art was in full form vs. what they are now?

Radio is a corporate profit-driven undertaking, someone must be listening or Noory/Coast would be off the air.

I almost equate it to SNL.  In my opinion SNL has sucked royally for at least the last 5 years straight (since Poehler, Ferrell, Dratch and Fallon left).  Nonetheless, given its time slot and viewers who turn in to see if SNL can manage 5 minutes worth of entertainment out of the 1.5 hour show, as well as those who tune in out of habit, the numbers may still be acceptable.

[MikeJ]

By the way, I admit to being one of the worst offenders. I subscribe to Streamlink and have for about 5 years.  I did however delete SNL from my Tivo about a month ago.

[ItsOver]

Hahahaha.... I thought SNL went down the tubes after the days of Akroyd, Murray, Belushi, Curtin, Morris, et al. 

[MikeJ]

Hahahaha.... I thought SNL went down the tubes after the days of Akroyd, Murray, Belushi, Curtin, Morris, et al. 

Probably true (I don't recall much of those days), but there were some brief bright spots.  I think it really jumped the shark (probably for the 10th time) with the addition of Andy Samberg.

[Juan]

Published reports from the time (Time Magazine for one) show Art with 7-10 million listeners per week.  Talkers Magazine for 2012 shows 3.5 millions listeners now.

[Sardondi]

I've at least listened to C2C since I last watched SNL. Just when was the last time I watched SNL? 7 years ago? 10? A show that is on simply because it's a habit to watch. In its heyday (it's actually had at least 3-4 times in its life when it got red hot) you simply didn't miss SNL because it was just too good. People would talk about it all Sunday and Monday. Its support today is a millimeter shallow, and if the suits at NBC finally grew a set after more than 35 years and told Lorne Michaels to clean out his office, nobody would know it was off the air except a few bands.

[ItsOver]

George looks rather bald in that Facebook picture. Maybe that thing on top of his head in the Coast pic is a toupe.

Toupe?  I thought Noory was just doing his best Fess Parker impression.  Much better than his Jimmy Stewart.

[MikeJ]

Published reports from the time (Time Magazine for one) show Art with 7-10 million listeners per week.  Talkers Magazine for 2012 shows 3.5 millions listeners now.

Interesting.  That is a significant decline.  I wonder whether Streamlink subscribers make up the difference to enough of an extent that these live ratings are acceptable.

I am not sure when Streamlink came online, but I think I recall it being toward the end of Art's tenure.

[MikeJ]

I've at least listened to C2C since I last watched SNL. Just when was the last time I watched SNL? 7 years ago? 10? A show that is on simply because it's a habit to watch. In its heyday (it's actually had at least 3-4 times in its life when it got red hot) you simply didn't miss SNL because it was just too good. People would talk about it all Sunday and Monday. Its support today is a millimeter shallow, and if the suits at NBC finally grew a set after more than 35 years and told Lorne Michaels to clean out his office, nobody would know it was off the air except a few bands.

I would just settle for getting a chuckle for my time, but even that seems too hard for them.  I suspect Lorne Michaels is the J. Edgar Hoover of television.  Nobody wants those files released!

[Sardondi]

I would just settle for getting a chuckle for my time, but even that seems too hard for them.  I suspect Lorne Michaels is the J. Edgar Hoover of television.  Nobody wants those files released!

That's because Lorne shoveled out the coke to anyone and everyone in the 70's and 80's, and then filmed it all. Not that he didn't engage himself, it's just that he made sure not to be around any cameras.

[PB the Deplorable]

Published reports from the time (Time Magazine for one) show Art with 7-10 million listeners per week.  Talkers Magazine for 2012 shows 3.5 millions listeners now.

It's probably not just gross numbers.

I would guess many if not most of Art's audience listened to most of the show or all of it.  My guess is George's lissners mostly listen to a segment or two in the car before they thankfully get home.

When they talk about ratings for radio, the weekly totals are cumlative.  And they count everyone tuning in even if it's just for a minute (ratings are taken by 'Neilson' type 'families' self reporting, then that survey data is projected statistically onto the total population).  So George's 3.5 million is actually 700,000 per night for 5 nights.  Of those, half probably listen for 10 - 15 minutes, another quarter listen to the news and maybe the rest of the first hour.  By the time George ducks out the back in the final hour he probably has 25,000 bored yet hard core trailers and a few truckers that are tired of music and everything else on the radio that are still tuned in - if that.

[ItsOver]

Nice summary, P*B.  Yeah, I may have C2C tuned-in but it's usually just background noise while I'm doing something else.  When Art was hosting, I was actually listening to the show.

[MikeJ]

Nice summary, P*B.  Yeah, I may have C2C tuned-in but it's usually just background noise while I'm doing something else.  When Art was hosting, I was actually listening to the show.

I agree with that.  I usually download shows via iTunes and listen to them when I go to bed (it seems weird to me to listen to C2C in the daylight).  Even though I rarely download a show via Streamlink to listen to (just not that many sound interesting), I can barely make it past the first hour.  It used to be I would lose sleep listening to Art, but now I am very well rested.

[ItsOver]

LOL... yeah, I find the current C2C a pretty good cure for insomnia at times.  I just have to turn the volume way down low so I can't actually hear Noory, so his WTF moments don't jar me awake. 

I've got a number of recordings of Art's old shows.  Nooron's?   None.   If Noory is so blasted great, why isn't, God forbid, PremRat playing old Noory C2C shows on Saturday nights, instead of "Somewhere in Time?"  Even PremRat finds old Art Bell shows from THE LAST CENTURY preferable to anything Nooron has done.

[TheGrimCreeper1]

Toupe?  I thought Noory was just doing his best Fess Parker impression.  Much better than his Jimmy Stewart.

Memo to George: ease up on the shoe black, you aren't fooling anyone.

[Sardondi]

Good Lord, that's terrible. What was it Norry was called in St Louis? The Night Joke? Yeah, that's it.

[BobGrau]

I wonder what the ratings for the FineArt stream would be...

[Eddie Coyle]

I almost equate it to SNL.  In my opinion SNL has sucked royally for at least the last 5 years straight (since Poehler, Ferrell, Dratch and Fallon left).  Nonetheless, given its time slot and viewers who turn in to see if SNL can manage 5 minutes worth of entertainment out of the 1.5 hour show, as well as those who tune in out of habit, the numbers may still be acceptable.

It's a great analogy. There was a time where SNL had awful lulls(1980-81:Gilbert Gottfried era, 1985-86: Robert Downey Jr era, 1994-95: Jeanine Garofalo era) but overall they'd usually come back and regain some relevance. But in the past decade SNL has fallen into such mediocrity, that one can't isolate a single bad year...it's become the norm.

            C2C has reached that with Noory, it's so bad, that the previous failed periods like Mike Siegel are long forgotten blips on the radar. This current abortion known as C2C is what we've come to expect since 2005 or so...a testamentary to futility and avarice.

[HorrorRetro]

Anyone up to updateing Art Bell's Wikipedia page with his Facebook comments? His page hasn't been updated in so long.  I'm not sure how to do it, or else I would.

Done.

[Jasmine]

I concur that SNL has been in the crapper, like C2C, for quite some time now. I think the old 70's shows with Jane Curtin, Gilda Radner, Bill Murray and the gang represented the show at its zenith, but even watching those old reruns you see they had their share of clunker skits, too. Plus, in my humble opinion, the skits (all seasons, all casts) run on simply far too long.

George Noory is the C2C version of SNL's abysmal Anthony Michael Hall - dropped into a production they have/had no business being in.

God, Robert Downey Jr. Was so hot back then (SNL days/era). Mmmmmm....delicious!

[Jasmine]

Done.

Ah! My favourite old time Hollywood Squares center square, Paul Lynde! Samantha Stevens' Uncle Arthur! God, Paul Lynde was such a masculine hunk...he just oozed testosterone. That man set me on fire...I had fantasies of rolling around with him on a plastic sheet covered in whipped cream while the old 80's song, Whip It, performed by the group Devo, played in the background.

Damn, I'd love to edit Noory's Wiki page...oh, the scathingly brilliant fun I would have with the words and editing!

[HorrorRetro]

Ah! My favourite old time Hollywood Squares center square, Paul Lynde! Samantha Stevens' Uncle Arthur! God, Paul Lynde was such a masculine hunk...he just oozed testosterone.

Damn, I'd love to edit Noory's Wiki page...oh, the scathingly brilliant fun I would have with the words and editing!

I adore Paul Lynde.  It's so cute to watch the little old ladies, and some not so old, flirt with him back in the day.  If they only knew...

I'd love to do some creative editing on Noory's page.  There's so much material floating around out there.