I guess I just haven't heard (all) what you have heard - because HAD I heard some of that - I would not like it either. Is this because I don't listen to every word? Because I haven't been a c2c fan as long as many of you? Because I am, myself, a "liberal Christian" with a similar background to Ian's and therefore he may say or imply things that fly by me because I'm just to used to it? The answer is likely, in part "all of the above."
That said - I also think, when I read critics of Ian's who come down hard on the Christan thing, that they are projecting negitive associations that don't really apply. :Shrug: - dunno for sure.
Here is what I think on these points:
he has not done one show where he does not bring it up,
I'd be hard pressed to come up with a show where he did not bring it up - true enough. But, so what? It's something he's been working very hard on for a very long time and is a big part of his life. Sometimes 9though i know that this is not usually the case) it's a matter of "in the interest of full disclosure" (ie: he wants to be up-front about his bias) sometimes it's just his interest. I have never gotten the impression that he was pushing Christianity on anyone.
he has show derision for other religions he deems unworthy,
Unworthy how? If by that you mean either narrow or not well informed - well - yeah. I see that. But I also DO that. Episocopalians are - for the most part - well educated folk who are often not as acepting as they coud be of those who opperate on pure faith - sans the academic slant. That's why (I'll say 'we' though I'm technicaly a Lutheran who happens to attend an Episcopal church - when you are refering the the largest body of the Lutheran Church in the US - it essentially the same thing - one has British overtones - the other Germanic - otherwise . . .) we are known, even among ourselves, as "the frozen chosen." T-t-t-hat's a
JOKE son!
fringe,
Yep - true enough. Mainstream Xians tend to not care for fringers. Particularly if they are fundimetalists. The embarass us, making us feel like we cna't say "I'm Chirstain" but rather HAVE to say "Im Christain BUT . . ." Is that kind? Nope. Is that fair? Nope. Is it, umm, Chirstain? Well - often not but DAMN! I REALLY don't want to deal with people who think either that I Am OR should be out to convert my non-Chistian friends or family, or that they can make assumptions abotu my politial of social stands based on my over-arching religius affiliation. It's IRITATING!~
or NOT christian.
Not Chistian, how? I've never heard Ian make light of ohter's religion. But I don't know how to diffentiate between religion and weirdness to somene who has made the statemetn (understandbly - though I don't compely agree) that all religions are cults. While i understand there are overlap points -there are more differnces that similarities IMO.
Comparing Art & his ham radio to Ian & his religious beliefs are not akin to each other as Art has never attacked anyone who does not have the view that Ham radio is the savior of all or if they were not interested in Ham radio.
I've never heard Ian attack anyone who was not interested in religion. Again, becuae I did not hear it does not mean it did not happen. I was refeing to his tendency to have his intrest in biblical matters, prophecy and so on as a common sub-text to things he has to say - as radio is for Art. Religion is much more loaded - and has a wider reach both good and ill than ham radio - sure. I was just compairing the "pet intrrest" part.
And now - before I bore you all to sobs - (if I haven;'t already) I'm gonna get off and try to STAY off this particualr cross. Given recent events in the housing industry, I'm QUITE sure someone needs the wood to build a lean-too or something.
Obviously - you all are welcome to take this thread where you like, so - where are you ganna take us? (sorry - had to do it
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