Midnight In The Desert

[Theodora]

"Why I Suck and Why Art Quits" by Jorch.  "Hey, they told me I could make some bucks off of it, folks."

Yup-that about sums him up    I recoil at the sight of him.

[Auslandia]

Well put. There also seems to be a sudden influx of trolls who have nothing but shit to talk, while the rest of us are trying to make sense of it all- if that's even possible.

Hey man I don't know if you noticed or not but just in case let me fill you in… All we do here is shit talk

[Yorkshire pud]

Well put. There also seems to be a sudden influx of trolls who have nothing but shit to talk, while the rest of us are trying to make sense of it all- if that's even possible.

Can I ask, what exactly is it you can't make sense of? The whole AB fiasco or Quantum physics?

[VtaGeezer]

Every time I turn on MITD now, I'm gobsmacked by how it went from zenith to nadir in a few days. Bell must have enough control of DMDN to inflict this nightly dose of punishment on KR instead of allowing him to swap one of the competent DMDN hosts into the prime timeslot.  I tuned in early last night, and caught the end of Dr J, to whom I've never listened much.  He had Jim Marrs as a guest.  JIm Marrs! On his worst night, Jim Marrs' lively rantings beat all but a few of the turkeys that were Art's staple under HW's producership.  I tried to listen to HW; heard her truly strange recounting of some "abductee" woman's pelvic exam, and the beginning with yet one more "disclosure is imminent"  devotee, but by 10:30 or so, I'd had enough, and turned on the local rerun of last night C2C first hour.  I don't understand the willingness of so many to accept this nonsense.  They've forgotten who told them "He gets it!" some years ago.

[Barfly]

I'm not clear on why people are criticizing the way Heather talks, she has co hosted the gabcast many times and is a regular on the fret files, did you expect her to change?
Thats the way she talks and personally i like it, its not the voice its the questions and i think she does a damn good job at asking pertinent questions, and if you consider she is new to this that
should make people think twice about criticism , imagine yourself thrust in this situation at short notice.
She wants Art back as much as we do.

[paladin1991]

She sounds to me like she is working on the shopping channel while smoking a joint.

Next time keep that in mind when you listen. She is not able to fill the chair, although she is giving it the ol' college try.

Oh.  Hi dave. 

[Theodora]

Oh.  Hi dave.

Who is Dave? I joined this week in light of the drama and have only glanced at Bellgab a few times since Art mentioned it early on.

I joined Bellgab because I was floored with what happened last week. I am female and currently off work due to poor health. My husband introduced me to Art back in 1997 while he was doing midnight shift on patrol. Immediately I loved it and growing up in a "radio loving house"-it was always on here at 10pm for 14 years. I began listening nightly-through all of Art's life and work events, seldom missing a show.

In 2009, I  signed up for C2C and grew to despise Noory after years of listening to his stupid egomaniac persona which got worse over time. I couldn't take him anymore last year and ended my subscription. I was a member of RIC out of Sweden for 6 years but ended that because of the racist, faschist program of lies and propaganda it became-It was no longer cutting edge radio.

I was also a subscriber to Veritas Radio and Caravan to Midnight last year once dumping Noory for good.  C2M last 3 months because I found John B wells very different on his own show and it was largely rednecked; Christian and too right winged for my tastes. Veritas provides only one show per week although Mel Fergas is an excellent interviewer with a wide range of topics-but it was too expensive for what the show is-a weekly podcast. Last year I began listening to Capricorn radio podcasts and in the past have picked up Jeff Rense; Freeman; Richard Syrett as well.

I also knew Art would be back and waited with great enthusiasm. It was awesome to have the show back and I felt that the programming lacked at times but he was doing a great job and it was Art in his purest form. Since I haven't been sleeping well, I have also started Listening to OSOM-which I really enjoy due to the truly quirky nature of the show. Yes, there have been RCH issues-but that's OKay to me.

Since joining Bellgab, Heather Wade is not anyone I am familiar with here.  As a paying subscriber over the last week-I have been forced to listen to her and I don't have anything against Heather personally. But, for me she is a big disappointment as is DMDN and Art. Its been a gong show and not in a good way. She sounds stoned to me and clearly lacks life experience and radio broadcasting experience. However, she is trying her best and isn't terrible either. Please remember-I am just a listener and not really a Bellgabber. Its the thousands of other subscribers, advertisers and affiliates that have no context for Heather either.   

[Ciardelo]

Who is Dave? I joined this week in light of the drama and have only glanced at Bellgab a few times since Art mentioned it early on.

Somebody wrote an email to a program director asking if they were going to carry this "new" Art Bell show. The program director wrote back saying they already had the show with Dave Noory.

I'm sure I'm not giving it adequate justice, but that's the gist of it i think.

[Ciardelo]

Please remember-I am just a listener and not really a Bellgabber. Its the thousands of other subscribers, advertisers and affiliates that have no context for Heather either.

Oh? Wait a minute--didn't you have to ask to be allowed to post here? YOU made the pact. YOU ARE a BellGabber. That shit don't wash off. May God have mercy on your little cat soul.

[Theodora]

Oh? Wait a minute--didn't you have to ask to be allowed to post here? YOU made the pact. YOU ARE a BellGabber. That shit don't wash off. May God have mercy on your little cat soul.

Yes-I saw in the terms of agreement...for eternity.

Dave Noory.

[Ciardelo]

Yes-I saw in the terms of agreement...for eternity.

Dave Noory. Praise MV!

FIFY

psst. Dave Noory sucks.

[albrecht]

Yes-I saw in the terms of agreement...for eternity.

Dave Noory.

Also known as Richard Noory and Dexter Monterrey. By any name, he sucks.

[BellBoy]

I'm not clear on why people are criticizing the way Heather talks, she has co hosted the gabcast many times and is a regular on the fret files, did you expect her to change?
Thats the way she talks and personally i like it, its not the voice its the questions and i think she does a damn good job at asking pertinent questions, and if you consider she is new to this that
should make people think twice about criticism , imagine yourself thrust in this situation at short notice.
She wants Art back as much as we do.

I can't imagine being on the receiving end of such a dick-move. I will give her credit for bravery, and balls... but little else. I listen each night and try my best to enjoy it, but I ultimately, find her show to be, unlistenable. 

[Ms. C]

I'm not clear on why people are criticizing the way Heather talks, she has co hosted the gabcast many times and is a regular on the fret files, did you expect her to change?
Thats the way she talks and personally i like it, its not the voice its the questions and i think she does a damn good job at asking pertinent questions, and if you consider she is new to this that
should make people think twice about criticism , imagine yourself thrust in this situation at short notice.
She wants Art back as much as we do.

+1

[aldousburbank]

+1

Troll

[ZomZom]

This gap between the demand for entertaining paranormal radio and the talent needed to meet it has me questioning the capability of free markets.  As a lifelong libertarian I am troubled, and am having thoughts of supporting Bernie Sanders in hopes of him creating a Federal Paranormal Radio Czar who will force Art to continue the show.  For the good of the people.

[zeebo]

One thing for sure is she's going to catch hell whatever she does....

Correct.  One small detail I'll point out is she's been doing this for one week.  She's already doing better than most of us could do after a year of practice and a stack of self-help books. 

I think she's got potential.  I like her conversational style.  I like her personality.  She has a talent for building rapport with people.  She's has a natural curiosity about these topics.  She'll continue to grow and find her voice with more experience.

I won't agree with everything she says or how she says it but that's ok - it is true for everyone I've ever listened to.

[zeebo]

...Please remember-I am just a listener and not really a Bellgabber....

Watch out, you may become one of us without realizing it, and there's no reversing the procedure.

.. Its the thousands of other subscribers, advertisers and affiliates that have no context for Heather either.

Fair point.  Although I'm happy Heather's got this chance, and good on her for seizing the opportunity, the whole rapid-fire switcheroo that happened was not really the right way to go about it.  Imho MITD should have been either put on hiatus or cancelled outright.  Heather could have been given a new show (with a new name, new closing song, etc.) to play on DMDN only, until she grows her own following. 

The implication to alot of listeners/stations is that it's the same show with a different host and that's not gonna fly, especially with rabid Art Bell fans who were eagerly awaiting his hyped return to radio.  Quite frankly I think Art put Heather in a no-win situation with this set-up and I just hope she gets what she can out of it while it lasts.  I guess we'll hear more on the future of DMDN with Keith tonite.

[Robert]

I agree. I call this the "Whitley Strieber Syndrome". Any interview he hosts revolves around HIM rather than the guest. I don't want Heather to fall into this trap. I noticed that she talks a lot about herself and her own experiences. Art seldom does that. She needs to focus totally on the guest, not herself.

Yes, when the guest is "there".  I don't mind at all her talking about her own experiences in the opening, pre-interview segment of the show.  Once in a while, if a guest seems reticent or bogged down, a bit of "I had something like that happen to me" may work, but not all the time.

The Whitley Streiber Syndrome is soooo easy for a radio m.c. to fall into, because in large measure the way they get the job is to be extroverted & talkers.  How do you turn that on enough to get in position, then turn it off enough to let interviews flow?  Plus, you're not on stage where the audience can look for rxns from the one who's not speaking, or where a director can switch shots.  Your whole product is what comes out of the loudspeaker.

[Robert]

The news segment should never have appeared on arts show or heathers  show unless they wanted to purposely drive subscribers away of course. Its horrible.

I've enjoyed those news segments very much.  Even the guy who pronounced things funnily couldn't ruin them for me.  I also find the current use of MUFON as a source to be both an informative and a cute stick-it-in-your-eye to the journalistic establishment.

[Auslandia]

I'm not clear on why people are criticizing the way Heather talks, she has co hosted the gabcast many times and is a regular on the fret files, did you expect her to change?
Thats the way she talks and personally i like it, its not the voice its the questions and i think she does a damn good job at asking pertinent questions, and if you consider she is new to this that
should make people think twice about criticism , imagine yourself thrust in this situation at short notice.
She wants Art back as much as we do.

You kinda answered your own question.  She's great for a podcast but this ain't no podcast partner.  This is (was) prime time.

[Barfly]

I can't imagine being on the receiving end of such a dick-move. I will give her credit for bravery, and balls... but little else. I listen each night and try my best to enjoy it, but I ultimately, find her show to be, unlistenable. 

Then why do you listen?
Do you listen for the host or the guest?
I listen to Hoagie because he is bat shit crazy, i have no understanding why you listen to Heather if you say she is "unlistenable" .
Thats like me being forced to listening to Abba, and i detest Abba, you have the choice not to listen.
I guess i dont understand the point you are making, if you find it unlistenable then dont.
Plenty other shows in that time slot.

[Barfly]

You kinda answered your own question.  She's great for a podcast but this ain't no podcast partner.  This is (was) prime time.

People pick on her and it was NOT her choice, Would you like Hoagie to do it instead? He's not dependable and Keith already stated he doesn't do paranormal stuff.
It baffles me that people critique something when you can do the same thing as  radio, ya dont like it, switch to another station, move on if you dont like the host , content, or music
on any given broadcast.
I dont like rap or pop music so i dont listen to those broadcasters, i dont complain to the station or pod casters about it though, thats just silly.

[Robert]

I can't imagine being on the receiving end of such a dick-move.

I wish I were on the receiving end of such a dick move!

[BellBoy]

Then why do you listen?
Do you listen for the host or the guest?
I listen to Hoagie because he is bat shit crazy, i have no understanding why you listen to Heather if you say she is "unlistenable" .
Thats like me being forced to listening to Abba, and i detest Abba, you have the choice not to listen.
I guess i dont understand the point you are making, if you find it unlistenable then dont.
Plenty other shows in that time slot.

I'm trying my best, to find any remaining fragments of worth, in what's left within the trail, of Art's path of destruction.
I was asked to give it 30 days.
I'm 'trying' to be supportive, damn it! Art told us, "She gets it". I'm waiting to see any evidence of that.
All I'm getting out of it, is disappointment.

[Ciardelo]

I'm trying my best, to find any remaining fragments of worth, in what's left within the trail, of Art's path of destruction.
I was asked to give it 30 days.
I'm 'trying' to be supportive, damn it! Art told us, "She gets it". I'm waiting to see any evidence of that.
All I'm getting out of it, is disappointment.

Do you have colour TV's over there yet? Can't you find a nice show with Inspector Morris or something else to watch?

[BellBoy]

People pick on her and it was NOT her choice, Would you like Hoagie to do it instead? He's not dependable and Keith already stated he doesn't do paranormal stuff.
It baffles me that people critique something when you can do the same thing as  radio, ya dont like it, switch to another station, move on if you dont like the host , content, or music
on any given broadcast.
I dont like rap or pop music so i dont listen to those broadcasters, i dont complain to the station or pod casters about it though, thats just silly.

And I imagine that when you're served a 'more-than-medium' steak, you just chew the shit out of it, choke it on down and move on. What would be the point in raising an objection? That's just silly. After all, there's probably a McDonald's, right around the corner. 

(two weeks ago, I was eating Fillet-Mignon... medium-rare)

[BellBoy]

Do you have colour TV's over there yet? Can't you find a nice show with Inspector Morris or something else to watch?

Thank you Ciardelo, for remembering the extraneous 'u' in colour. That's why I love you, man! It's the little things, that keep us civilized.

(again, no homo! knock it off!)

[Barfly]

And I imagine that when you're served a 'more-than-medium' steak, you just chew the shit out of it, choke it on down and move on. What would be the point in raising an objection? That's just silly. After all, there's probably a McDonald's, right around the corner. 

(two weeks ago, I was eating Fillet-Mignon... medium-rare)

Poor analogy sir.

[SredniVashtar]

Do you have colour TV's over there yet? Can't you find a nice show with Inspector Morris or something else to watch?

It must be a coincidence, but I have yet to encounter a pro-Heather person so far who isn't a bottom-feeding moron. That's two errors in one sentence, well done! I must be very out of touch with things these days to expect such fuddy-duddy stuff like obvious skills or experience when contemplating a job. Apparently you just turn up and (if you happen to be, ahem, friendly, with the boss) you can get away with anything. It reminds me of that bit in Citizen Kane when he had his girlfriend singing opera on stage, and he was clapping vehemently while everyone else backed away quietly and pretended none of the ghastly mess was happening.