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Art Bell

Started by sillydog, April 07, 2008, 11:21:45 PM

Quote from: Showroom Dummy on January 24, 2016, 04:27:49 PM
i think we need some laughs  only in NYC


LOL! Those guys are great. NYC cops are pretty cool. It's the Long Island and Westchester ones that are ball busters.

ItsOver

Quote from: rekcuf on January 24, 2016, 03:58:15 PM
I ejaculated on BellGab's face, many times... Deal with it.
Welcome.  Post often.

Quote from: Inglorious Bitch on January 24, 2016, 04:28:15 PM
That's a very classy top hat and monocle. Did he borrow it from Mr Peanut?

Why, yes! He busted a nut...

I'm like James Brown, "I feeeeeeeeel goooooood!"

Quote from: Value Of Pi on January 24, 2016, 04:33:11 PM
Actually, I might just have been flirting with your avatar (it's possible). Audrey could have had me any time she wanted. Except if she had to stand in line behind Ingrid Bergman.

LOL, in that case, just for you:


Quote from: ItsOver on January 24, 2016, 04:37:05 PM
Welcome.  Post often.

And a good morrow too you, my fine chap!



Quote from: Uncle Duke on January 24, 2016, 04:45:18 PM
You beat me to that line.

That's because I'm a fast woman.  :D

Value Of Pi

Quote from: Inglorious Bitch on January 24, 2016, 04:39:18 PM
LOL, in that case, just for you:



<Homer making pork chop sounds>

Thank you.

EDIT:

Come to think of it, pork chops might be what she's cooking there. What a feast!

GravitySucks

I think it's time for cheesy music videos. 


http://youtu.be/Z0GFRcFm-aY

sometimes this thread makes me sad ........



Night Train

Quote from: Inglorious Bitch on January 24, 2016, 04:39:18 PM
LOL, in that case, just for you:



Is she cooking? Or trying to remember where she put her panties?

oh wait i'm just a creepy doll head ..............

Value Of Pi

Quote from: Night Train on January 24, 2016, 05:10:16 PM
Is she cooking? Or trying to remember where she put her panties?

Hey, watch it, Bud. I feel about Audrey like the Heather guys here feel about Heather. Not that any comparison between the two ladies is implied.

Night Train

Quote from: Value Of Pi on January 24, 2016, 05:15:13 PM
Hey, watch it, Bud. I feel about Audrey like the Heather guys here feel about Heather. Not that any comparison between the two ladies is implied.

No offense - I like girls who cook with no panties on.

Say...there's an idea!  There used to be a DJ who would play a hit song and then say, "Now we're cookin' with hot grease!"

Maybe Heather's thing could be "Now we're cookin' with no panties on!"

BellBoy

Quote from: Uncle Duke on January 24, 2016, 03:31:41 PM
Just so you know, a lot of us have had our way with her in the past.

psssst!... she's a dirty, wet bitch too.  ;)

Mr. Fidget

   It's true, yes, I hold a glimmer of hope! Art can deal with it. He said to me on the air "It's all a bit too much for me." but I think he's wrong about that.
   He need only try, by giving me the dignity, and the respect... of professional communication. It just never happened, he walked away. That's his right, but it leaves me with an indelible mark of public blacklisting. I won't stand for it.
   It is not, was not, and never will be acceptable to do something like that without follow up. No reasonable person, when navigating the troubled waters I was, could have done any better.
   Heavens to Betsy... there was a lawsuit... a unanimously sustained Citizens Police Review Board assessment... in contrary to the Chief's initial assessment (which he then reversed) that addressed the "procedural handling" of my police report.
   I got beaten up in public, lied about (in stark contrast to witness statements) in a "private security" report, was issued an intentionally miss-dated (twice) promise to appear... dated 6/24/70. I never got to appear, and was on Art's show within 60 days.
   The morass took years, we all know I could go on and on about that... but I am merciful. The blacklisting stood, and stands. I'm not talking about some fiction... it is all good darn fact!

So Art, wtf!

How funking hard is it to funking just say you're funking sorry one funking time in my good darn thread forthettruckers?

Just lift your arbitrary, knee jerk, blacklisting.

Pretty please!


SciFiAuthor

Quote from: SredniVashtar on January 24, 2016, 09:02:53 AM
I'm not quite sure what you mean. Art's 'stalker' sounds like it came straight out of the 'dog ate my homework' school of lame excuses.

The problem being that any of the alternative hypotheses regarding Art's motives for leaving require certain assumptions to be made. These range from assuming he wanted to leave the show to assuming he's in a relationship with (Redacted) that's more than a professional mentorship. All of the hypotheses are driven by various collections of assumptions. Assumptions, assumptions, assumptions.

Assumptions are bad things, so when one applies Occam's razor, they all fall flat against the official story Art has given. His is the story that requires only one assumption: that he's telling the truth. To question that, one needs a basis for doing so. I have yet to see anything that would suggest to me that this isn't exactly as he's claimed. It's no stretch for a celebrity to have a stalker. It commonly happens, even Hoagland has one (talk about wasting one's life, Jesus). It's no stretch that a stalker might try to scare or harm a celebrity, again, this commonly happens to the point of being expected. It's no stretch that said celebrity might make a series of terrible, kneejerk decisions in response to such a thing out of fear or duress. Plus, Art seems to have a long history of making those kinds of shitty, mercurial, ill-thought through decisions, so it shouldn't be surprising that his recent decisions are consistent with his past ones. Nor do I see an issue with his main motivation, which is protecting his family. Well, we'd all do that in his position. It's the one thing where you just say fuck everything else when it gets down to the wire.

I just don't see the need to go off into the weeds and wildly speculate when the original story, sad as it is, hasn't presented anything to question without the need for a bunch of assumptions to be made. The simplest answer here is that Art told the truth as he saw it, and then completely blew it over and over when dealing with the fallout. This scenario is has been backed by a number of people close to Art with no apparent inconsistencies.

I think people felt the need to overanalyze because they were angry that Art left the air. But I don't think that overanalysis was ever anything close to valid. People should be asking themselves why they engaged in it in the first place when the simplest answer was clear the whole time. Art told the truth and made a bunch of bad decisions in response to it.

Trolling, of course, is a separate issue. That's just people shit posting. 





GravitySucks

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on January 24, 2016, 05:33:57 PM
The problem being that any of the alternative hypotheses regarding Art's motives for leaving require certain assumptions to be made. These range from assuming he wanted to leave the show to assuming he's in a relationship with (Redacted) that's more than a professional mentorship. All of the hypotheses are driven by various collections of assumptions. Assumptions, assumptions, assumptions.

Assumptions are bad things, so when one applies Occam's razor, they all fall flat against the official story Art has given. His is the story that requires only one assumption: that he's telling the truth. To question that, one needs a basis for doing so. I have yet to see anything that would suggest to me that this isn't exactly as he's claimed. It's no stretch for a celebrity to have a stalker. It commonly happens, even Hoagland has one (talk about wasting one's life, Jesus). It's no stretch that a stalker might try to scare or harm a celebrity, again, this commonly happens to the point of being expected. It's no stretch that said celebrity might make a series of terrible, kneejerk decisions in response to such a thing out of fear or duress. Plus, Art seems to have a long history of making those kinds of shitty, mercurial, ill-thought through decisions, so it shouldn't be surprising that his recent decisions are consistent with his past ones. Nor do I see an issue with his main motivation, which is protecting his family. Well, we'd all do that in his position. It's the one thing where you just say fuck everything else when it gets down to the wire.

I just don't see the need to go off into the weeds and wildly speculate when the original story, sad as it is, hasn't presented anything to question without the need for a bunch of assumptions to be made. The simplest answer here is that Art told the truth as he saw it, and then completely blew it over and over when dealing with the fallout. This scenario is has been backed by a number of people close to Art with no apparent inconsistencies.

I think people felt the need to overanalyze because they were angry that Art left the air. But I don't think that overanalysis was ever anything close to valid. People should be asking themselves why they engaged in it in the first place when the simplest answer was clear the whole time. Art told the truth and made a bunch of bad decisions in response to it.

Trolling, of course, is a separate issue. That's just people shit posting.

This is GravitySucks and I approve this message.

BellBoy

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on January 24, 2016, 05:33:57 PM
...Trolling, of course, is a separate issue. That's just people shit posting.

...but then that, really, is a matter of perspective.


SciFiAuthor

Quote from: BellBoy on January 24, 2016, 05:47:15 PM
...but then that, really, is a matter of perspective.



It is, and motive, some people just like to rile people up or otherwise entertain themselves by sloshing around the hallways of the Titanic. There's no validity to that
sort of thing at all since it isn't in good faith.

GravitySucks

The good news is tonight is a Knapp night

Night Train

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on January 24, 2016, 05:33:57 PM
The problem being that any of the alternative hypotheses regarding Art's motives for leaving require certain assumptions to be made. These range from assuming he wanted to leave the show to assuming he's in a relationship with (Redacted) that's more than a professional mentorship. All of the hypotheses are driven by various collections of assumptions. Assumptions, assumptions, assumptions.
.

QuoteAssumptions are bad things, so when one applies Occam's razor, they all fall flat against the official story Art has given. His is the story that requires only one assumption: that he's telling the truth
.

You obviously have no understanding of Occam's razor, which is that "entities must not be multiplied without necessity."  In plain English, the simplest explanation is usually the best one.  And in this case, the simplest explanation is that Art made it all up.  That's far less convoluted than his cockamie, ever changing stories.  He got a death threat, and Heather called the cops.  But he didn't want to file a report and have them investigate, but only wanted to "document" it.  What's the simplest explanation for that?  It's easy - there was no death threat, and Art didn't want the cops calling the phone company for their records.  Any other explanation for his refusal to file a report makes no sense, and is far more complicated.  Occam's razor say's there was no death threat. 

In addition, he cited the "death threat" as part of the "terror assault" his family was suffering.  Talked about it on the radio, and told a reporter about it.  But when some of us started asking why he refused to file a police report about it, he suddenly changed his tune, and said it sounded like some kid goofing off and he didn't take it seriously.  So, what's the best explanation for why was he talking about it being part of a terrorist attack on his family, and then changed his story and said it was no big deal and nothing to worry about?  The simplest and best explanation is that he was lying, and there was never any death threat to begin with.  Occam's razor, baby.


QuoteThe simplest answer here is that Art told the truth as he saw it, and then completely blew it over and over when dealing with the fallout.

No, that is NOT the simplest explanation.  Not by a long shot.   It's merely the explanation that you prefer, because it pains you to think that Art made it up.  The simplest explanation is that he's lying.


QuoteThis scenario is has been backed by a number of people close to Art with no apparent inconsistencies.

Oh, it has not.  One guy came on here a day or two ago and said there was no way Art was having an affair with Heather, because, and this is an actual quote, "he sounds professional on the phone."  Wow; that's some really powerful "evidence."

Aldous Burbank came on here last night or this morning and said that he could assure us that Art and Heather weren't fooling around, because he had shaken Art's hand and looked in his eyes, which is all the proof anyone should need!  Besides, Heather's a good girl, who had the chance to boink Aldous, and she didn't, so why would she boink a guy with ten million bucks who could give her very own radio show? ::)

Value Of Pi

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on January 24, 2016, 05:33:57 PM
The problem being that any of the alternative hypotheses regarding Art's motives for leaving require certain assumptions to be made. These range from assuming he wanted to leave the show to assuming he's in a relationship with (Redacted) that's more than a professional mentorship. All of the hypotheses are driven by various collections of assumptions. Assumptions, assumptions, assumptions.

Assumptions are bad things, so when one applies Occam's razor, they all fall flat against the official story Art has given. His is the story that requires only one assumption: that he's telling the truth. To question that, one needs a basis for doing so. I have yet to see anything that would suggest to me that this isn't exactly as he's claimed. It's no stretch for a celebrity to have a stalker. It commonly happens, even Hoagland has one (talk about wasting one's life, Jesus). It's no stretch that a stalker might try to scare or harm a celebrity, again, this commonly happens to the point of being expected. It's no stretch that said celebrity might make a series of terrible, kneejerk decisions in response to such a thing out of fear or duress. Plus, Art seems to have a long history of making those kinds of shitty, mercurial, ill-thought through decisions, so it shouldn't be surprising that his recent decisions are consistent with his past ones. Nor do I see an issue with his main motivation, which is protecting his family. Well, we'd all do that in his position. It's the one thing where you just say fuck everything else when it gets down to the wire.

I just don't see the need to go off into the weeds and wildly speculate when the original story, sad as it is, hasn't presented anything to question without the need for a bunch of assumptions to be made. The simplest answer here is that Art told the truth as he saw it, and then completely blew it over and over when dealing with the fallout. This scenario is has been backed by a number of people close to Art with no apparent inconsistencies.

I think people felt the need to overanalyze because they were angry that Art left the air. But I don't think that overanalysis was ever anything close to valid. People should be asking themselves why they engaged in it in the first place when the simplest answer was clear the whole time. Art told the truth and made a bunch of bad decisions in response to it.

Trolling, of course, is a separate issue. That's just people shit posting.

Just to refine your thought a bit, if I may. He's telling the truth about what he has directly (or indirectly) experienced. He or his neighbors heard what sounded like gunshots, his neighbors called him, some jerk threatened him, etc. The narrative of a dedicated stalker who is a significant threat, that part is just filling in the blanks to round out the story. It may be true and it may not be true. This is MV's stated position, which I agree with.

BellBoy

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on January 24, 2016, 06:00:01 PM
It is, and motive, some people just like to rile people up or otherwise entertain themselves by sloshing around the hallways of the Titanic. There's no validity to that
sort of thing at all since it isn't in good faith.

...and one man's (relentless) sycophantic defense of a preposterous position, in the face of overwhelming circumstantial evidence to the contrary, is another man's shit-post.



(and I post that in "good faith")

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: Value Of Pi on January 24, 2016, 06:02:48 PM
Just to refine your thought a bit, if I may. He's telling the truth about what he has directly (or indirectly) experienced. He or his neighbors heard what sounded like gunshots, his neighbors called him, some jerk threatened him, etc. The narrative of a dedicated stalker who is a significant threat, that part is just filling in the blanks to round out the story. It may be true and it may not be true. This is MV's stated position, which I agree with.

Yes, I think he told the truth as he saw it in good faith. It's certainly possible that it may be based on a misinterpretation, for what that's worth.

trostol

Quote from: GravitySucks on January 24, 2016, 06:00:12 PM
The good news is tonight is a Knapp night

bad news..sounds like a bad show lol

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: BellBoy on January 24, 2016, 06:23:29 PM
...and one man's (relentless) sycophantic defense of a preposterous position, in the face of overwhelming circumstantial evidence to the contrary, is another man's shit-post.



(and I post that in "good faith")

If I wanted to be sycophantic, I'd be defending the decisions he made after leaving the air, which I consider to have been almost universally bad. That said, there is never any logical reason to overcook something, and that's precisely what everyone's doing. If you'd like to compile a list of what we know and show me this overwhelming circumstantial evidence you cite then I'd be happy to go through it with you. But I haven't seen it, nor do I think it exists without the need to make assumptions that are not supportable.

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