Art Bell

Value Of Pi · January 23, 2016, 01:50:19 PM

Quote from: Mr. Fidget on January 23, 2016, 01:37:28 PM
It can be downloaded for free. I found the book very informative, and well worth the time... in stark contrast to the content in this thread, lately. :
It's on the back burner, 364 days to go for my speculation... time will tell. I don't have any "faith" about DMDN, I just don't see any reason why it "has to" fail. Money... ha, ha, ha!

If it does, so what... same if it doesn't.

See you (on this "topic") in 2017.

I don't think we'll have to wait that long. Art will introduce some new twist to this storyline. For one thing, it doesn't have an ending yet -- good, bad or otherwise. He's a storyteller and he likes to have a solid ending, even if it's just "We're out of time, folks. Say goodnight."

GuerrillaUnReal · January 23, 2016, 02:04:09 PM

Maybe Keith has something running on his servers that's a no-no like a deep web business or some sort of scamming entity and DMDN is the front for it? It would explain some things.

I've seen these things in person in other realms. But I'm certainly not accusing or saying this is even a realistic scenario. It's just fun to think about.

paladin1991 · January 23, 2016, 02:07:18 PM

Quote from: VoteQuimby on January 23, 2016, 02:04:09 PM
Maybe Keith has something running on his servers that's a no-no like a deep web business or some sort of scamming entity and DMDN is the front for it? It would explain some things.

I've seen these things person in other realms. But I'm certainly not accusing or saying this is even a realistic scenario. It's just fun to think about.

And maybe you are just a fucking idiot. It's just fun to think about that.

GuerrillaUnReal · January 23, 2016, 02:09:25 PM

Quote from: paladin1991 on January 23, 2016, 02:07:18 PM
And maybe you are just a fucking idiot. It's just fun to think about that.

Um... you realize virtually all crime is digital now? I'm trying to give these people the benefit of the doubt in that they're just not completely fucking stupid to shoot a multi-million dollar business in the head.

Do you even know what you're talking about? Because I do.

paladin1991 · January 23, 2016, 02:17:10 PM

Quote from: VoteQuimby on January 23, 2016, 02:09:25 PM
Um... you realize virtually all crime is digital now? I'm trying to give these people the benefit of the doubt in that they're just not completely fucking stupid to shoot a multi-million dollar business in the head.

Do you even know what you're talking about? Because I do.

You are a digital criminal?

GuerrillaUnReal · January 23, 2016, 02:24:33 PM

Quote from: paladin1991 on January 23, 2016, 02:17:10 PM
You are a digital criminal?

Yup, you caught me. I'm Obama's deep web agent on all the markets.

...No, I just have the ability to read.

Why are you getting all defensive about this? If you were out patrolling Art's perimeter, we wouldn't be having these problems.

Mr. Fidget · January 23, 2016, 02:26:51 PM

Quote from: Value Of Pi on January 23, 2016, 01:50:19 PM
I don't think we'll have to wait that long. Art will introduce some new twist to this storyline. For one thing, it doesn't have an ending yet -- good, bad or otherwise. He's a storyteller and he likes to have a solid ending, even if it's just "We're out of time, folks. Say goodnight."

Quit bragging.

Value Of Pi · January 23, 2016, 02:28:47 PM

As tantalyzing as it is to speculate about what's actually going on, the crime explanation is a real stretch. Small businesses go off the track and crash for all kinds of reasons having nothing to do with crime. To me, this is a human drama, not a crime drama. That's what makes if interesting.

GuerrillaUnReal · January 23, 2016, 02:30:08 PM

Quote from: Value Of Pi on January 23, 2016, 02:28:47 PM
As tantalyzing as it is to speculate about what's actually going on, the crime explanation is a real stretch. Small businesses go off the track and crash for all kinds of reasons having nothing to do with crime. To me, this is a human drama, not a crime drama. That's what makes if interesting.

I agree completely, if they were criminals they'd be pretty fucking stupid. The money laundering aspect just got me thinking about how you could use DMRN for nefarious means. It seriously doesn't tie together though in reality.

Mr. Fidget · January 23, 2016, 02:36:06 PM

Quote from: Value Of Pi on January 23, 2016, 02:28:47 PM
As ~~tantalyzing~~ flatulating as it is to speculate about what's actually goingon, the crime explanation is a real stretch. Small businesses go off the track and crash for all kinds of reasons having nothing to do with crime. To me, this is ~~a human drama, not a crime drama~~ muck raking. That's what makes ~~if interesting~~ it smell bad.

3x FIFY

effluenza · January 23, 2016, 02:50:57 PM

Quote from: VoteQuimby on January 23, 2016, 01:10:32 PM
How do you launder money through a failing digital radio network? Plus since all the money is digital and legal for DMRN meaning it's traceable and the advertising money would have to be above board theoretically. There's no loose cash floating around so what is there to launder?

I'd have to think about it a little bit but the only way I could see a scheme like that is if they took out sizeable loans, hid the money and then declared bankruptcy when this thing goes tits up but that's so not worth the effort for the amount of money they'd be able to run off with.

I think along the same lines as you in that they can't possibly be this stupid. I've tried to figure out a crooked angle for them sinking their business so quickly but it's not coming to me.

I think the accusation that Art and Keith are committing a Federal Crime is worse for MV's business than the affairs accusation.

GuerrillaUnReal · January 23, 2016, 02:54:51 PM

Quote from: effluenza on January 23, 2016, 02:50:57 PM
I think the accusation that Art and Keith are committing a Federal Crime is worse for MV's business than the affairs accusation.

If there was something nefarious, I doubt Art would have known about it as it would have had to originate on the technical side of the business.

Is this improper to talk about? I'm saying it's illogical for anything nefarious to have happened on that end but it's still fun to think about. Don't know why this gets more of a negative reaction than speculating that Art and Heather are smashing uglies.

Night Train · January 23, 2016, 02:59:31 PM

Quote from: VoteQuimby on January 23, 2016, 02:54:51 PM
If there was something nefarious, I doubt Art would have known about it as it would have had to originate on the technical side of the business.

Is this improper to talk about? I'm saying it's illogical for anything nefarious to have happened on that end but it's still fun to think about.

I can assure you that Art would never get involved in something like that, because he sounds professional on the phone.

Mr. Fidget · January 23, 2016, 03:00:55 PM

Quote from: VoteQuimby on January 23, 2016, 02:48:52 PM
~~People~~ Trolls speculate on an affair, Art killing his wife and all sorts of other things. But then thinking about how the money side of that business would work and how they could profit from killing their business, that's too far?

FIFY

I'm pissed at Art. I don't like his lack of follow through, or his unwillingness to communicate... except on "his [selfish, arbitrary, ham handed, & illogical] terms". In my opinion going after his personal life is not "reasonable", it's pathetic... and far "too far." Guessing about the money... not so much.

However it is a colossal waste of time...
yours to waste... I suppose.

Mr. Fidget · January 23, 2016, 03:02:37 PM

Quote from: Night Train on January 23, 2016, 02:59:31 PM
I can assure you that Art would never get involved in something like that, because he sounds professional on the phone.

I wish I could weigh in on this, but he does not return my calls.

norland2424 · January 23, 2016, 03:15:48 PM

Quote from: VoteQuimby on January 23, 2016, 02:04:09 PM
Maybe Keith has something running on his servers that's a no-no like a deep web business or some sort of scamming entity and DMDN is the front for it? It would explain some things.

I've seen these things in person in other realms. But I'm certainly not accusing or saying this is even a realistic scenario. It's just fun to think about.

You and your deep web lol, i dont think mr WordPress keith is smart enough to be some online crime boss lol

GuerrillaUnReal · January 23, 2016, 03:22:49 PM

I'm being ridiculous. My two biggest problems right now is I just finished reading about Ross Ulbrecht's re-trial coming up and I just finished the book American Desperado about Jon Roberts, one of America's biggest cocaine smugglers... so I think everything is corrupt or nefarious.

Sehnzeleid · January 23, 2016, 04:14:08 PM

BUT GUYS, whatever has become of Michelle and her English-speaking Japanese students that Art was supposed to conference call in class?!? WHY DID YOU FORSAKE THEM, MR. BELL? WHY?!

droog · January 23, 2016, 04:15:02 PM

Quote from: VictoriaPandora on January 23, 2016, 06:32:15 AM
I'm going to check that out.
Another show I'm really loving right now is "Here be Monsters" the soundscapes give me happy ears and the subjects are bizarre and intelligent.

Thanks for mentioning this podcast as I had never heard of it. I just looked at the website and am intrigued. I will be downloading several shows for inspection.

Kolchak · January 23, 2016, 04:36:28 PM

Quote from: Sehnzeleid on January 23, 2016, 04:14:08 PM
BUT GUYS, whatever has become of Michelle and her English-speaking Japanese students that Art was supposed to conference call in class?!? WHY DID YOU FORSAKE THEM, MR. BELL? WHY?!

indigoo · January 23, 2016, 05:00:45 PM

Wait wait wait, what did I miss? Crime? Money laundering? Keith?

Value Of Pi · January 23, 2016, 05:04:18 PM

Quote from: VoteQuimby on January 23, 2016, 02:54:51 PM
If there was something nefarious, I doubt Art would have known about it as it would have had to originate on the technical side of the business.

Is this improper to talk about? I'm saying it's illogical for anything nefarious to have happened on that end but it's still fun to think about. Don't know why this gets more of a negative reaction than speculating that Art and Heather are smashing uglies.

Some people don't know when to stop. They start by criticizing what they consider to be bad behavior, which might be perfectly fine, and often is. Then they proceed to tell you that what you find funny is not funny to them and why you should stop laughing. That's probably a bridge too far.

GravitySucks · January 23, 2016, 05:06:30 PM

Quote from: indigoo on January 23, 2016, 05:00:45 PM
Wait wait wait, what did I miss? Crime? Money laundering? Keith?

I don't know. Something about DMRN being a covert numbers station and using binaural beats and neural entrainment to optimize subliminal programming in an attempt to get Jeb Bush elected, or to use the DMRN servers to mine bitcoins or something. I kind of lost track when it got to the whole cocaine distribution ring and Art cooking meth in his RV.

nbirnes · January 23, 2016, 05:13:06 PM

Quote from: GravitySucks on January 23, 2016, 05:06:30 PM
I don't know. Something about DMRN being a covert numbers station and using binaural beats and neural entrainment to optimize subliminal programming in an attempt to get Jeb Bush elected, or to use the DMRN servers to mine bitcoins or something. I kind of lost track when it got to the whole cocaine distribution ring and Art cooking meth in his RV.

Exactly. When it gets down to boxers or briefs, I believe it's gone too far.

SciFiAuthor · January 23, 2016, 05:18:55 PM

Quote from: GravitySucks on January 23, 2016, 05:06:30 PM
I don't know. Something about DMRN being a covert numbers station and using binaural beats and neural entrainment to optimize subliminal programming in an attempt to get Jeb Bush elected, or to use the DMRN servers to mine bitcoins or something. I kind of lost track when it got to the whole cocaine distribution ring and Art cooking meth in his RV.

There really has been a lot of overcooking of the turkey here. I personally was satisfied when someone said Art is a hubrid long before he left the show. I have left it at that.

Value Of Pi · January 23, 2016, 05:23:59 PM

Quote from: GravitySucks on January 23, 2016, 05:06:30 PM
I don't know. Something about DMRN being a covert numbers station and using binaural beats and neural entrainment to optimize subliminal programming in an attempt to get Jeb Bush elected, or to use the DMRN servers to mine bitcoins or something. I kind of lost track when it got to the whole cocaine distribution ring and Art cooking meth in his RV.

It's snowing. People are stuck inside. They are going stir crazy. Even crazier than they usually are.

Richard Groyper · January 23, 2016, 05:24:28 PM

Quote from: VoteQuimby on January 23, 2016, 02:30:08 PM
I agree completely, if they were criminals they'd be pretty fucking stupid. The money laundering aspect just got me thinking about how you could use DMRN for nefarious means. It seriously doesn't tie together though in reality.

There are prisons filled with "stupid criminals." Just sayin'.

nbirnes · January 23, 2016, 05:31:56 PM

Quote from: Value Of Pi on January 23, 2016, 05:23:59 PM
It's snowing. People are stuck inside. They are going stir crazy. Even crazier than they usually are.

Bingo. And since there's no godly reason why I still have power when there's feets of snow on the ground, I'm turning everything on and reading and commenting on every thread because there's no telling when I'll hear friendly voices again.

👯

CornyCrow · January 23, 2016, 05:31:58 PM

Quote from: effluenza on January 23, 2016, 02:50:57 PM
I think the accusation that Art and Keith are committing a Federal Crime is worse for MV's business than the affairs accusation.

Obviously some folks don't know the difference between accusation and idle speculation. When explanations are not evident for certain events the situation invites playful speculation. It's just fun to play with different scenarios. Nobody is actually accusing anyone of anything.

CornyCrow · January 23, 2016, 05:47:31 PM

Quote from: Mr. Fidget on January 23, 2016, 03:00:55 PM
FIFY

I'm pissed at Art. I don't like his lack of follow through, or his unwillingness to communicate... except on "his [selfish, arbitrary, ham handed, & illogical] terms". In my opinion going after his personal life is not "reasonable", it's pathetic... and far "too far." Guessing about the money... not so much.

However it is a colossal waste of time...
yours to waste... I suppose.

People were wondering if his personal life may have contributed to his leaving. It's possible. Anything is possible. Hey, I just read that the head of HBO's computer operations died at age 50 and left most of or all his fortune to a stripper he'd been seeing. If you had met the guy, you'd probably think he was too professional for that.

Affairs happen all the time in business. It's not a remarkable thing to think of. If such a thing did happen I think most would not fault Heather, but Art. Heather is not married(that we know of). She wouldn't be breaking any vow.

Who knows? Marriages differ. Some wives don't mind their husbands straying. At Art's age (who knows if he is taking meds) maybe that is off the agenda.