Art Bell

[PB the Deplorable]

It seems as though the only person who doesn't get to broadcast for free is Hoaxie. Kind of fucked up honestly. Especially since he is the stations biggest star and best radio personality. I have no idea why Hoaxie hasn't told Art and Keith to fuck off, especially since they did try to sabotage his show.

I agree.  Hoagie should tell Art and Keith to fuck off, and then disappear for good

[norland2424]

No, my brother does not do probing. You must not have good English concept skills: probes probe; Dr. Watt B. Wong is a human, not a probe.

[Night Train]

So has the gabcast

Your comment made me curious, so I clicked on the Gabcast link at the top.  I listened to an episode for the first time, the 12/20 edition.  I believe that's the day I joined the site.  I heard MV, of course, and also Onan, Meister, SciFiAuthor, and White Crow. 

Which was pretty wild.  I had no idea that members of the site can call in and even co-host the show.  If I'd known that, I would not have called so many people shitheads and faggots and such.

Well, what's done is done.  There goes my chance at fame.

It's like Grandma always said to us kids - "We are too soon old and too late smart. Plus, you're all a bunch of faggots."

[SciFiAuthor]

Well, what's done is done.  There goes my chance at fame.

Pfffft, call in, MV makes it open to everybody and you'd be interesting as hell to hear. The whole point is to hear new and interesting voices from the forum.

[pate]

...If this was a court...

Heh, I wonder if it is this type of court:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dzLbVG3BTs

or this type:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TiaIBx56bw

Just sayin' Not Sure

[stephber]

As doctors of medical matters, we, that is, me and my brother, Dr. Watt B. Wong, are confused. We went into surgery, Heather was hosting, came out for a drink of orange juice, Art was hosting, now we've sown the patient up with our own designed surgical instruments, and Wattley Streiber is hosting.

Please have your brother call my colleague, Kno Khan Do, at the pharmacy. We have a problem with his recent prescriptions for "Roofies" and "Mollies". This is a hospital, not a nightclub, and we will not dispense them over, under, or through the counter, kind sir.

[HumanBeing]

It's just my opinion that 'Heather' is not her real name, but that's based on the fact that she is highly reticent about herself to the extent that we know nothing about her. In that situation it's highly unlikely she would give out her real name, although there's a chance I could be wrong...

I think you may be wrong here. Not on the reticent part. But the part about not knowing anything about her.

However this is where I may be wrong but I believe Heather is indeed her name. Also it was pointed out a few times, in a couple different threads, that she has a rich family background in the radio industry. I haven't seen her confirm this so I won't mention specific names. Also I am from Canada so I don't know the extent of said background in the context of radio icons. But if true, I would think, she isn't naive to how the radio industry works. So there is good reason why Art has confidence in her. I think she has what it takes between the ears. Just not the on-air experience yet. Still a better option that Noory, imo.

It may have been a lot easier transition to see her host the weekend shows and fill-in for Art when needed. Build the audience's trust that way.
Instead she is being baptized by fire, due to the sudden departure of Art, and there is no short-term winning in that situation.

[Imconfused]

As doctors of medical matters, we, that is, me and my brother, Dr. Watt B. Wong, are confused. We went into surgery, Heather was hosting, came out for a drink of orange juice, Art was hosting, now we've sown the patient up with our own designed surgical instruments, and Wattley Streiber is hosting.

You left the sponge in,  Dr. tWatt!

That's not good for business.

Fix it.

[SredniVashtar]

I think you may be wrong here. Not on the reticent part. But the part about not knowing anything about her.

However this is where I may be wrong but I believe Heather is indeed her name. Also it was pointed out a few times, in a couple different threads, that she has a rich family background in the radio industry. I haven't seen her confirm this so I won't mention specific names. Also I am from Canada so I don't know the extent of said background in the context of radio icons. But if true, I would think, she isn't naive to how the radio industry works. So there is good reason why Art has confidence in her. I think she has what it takes between the ears. Just not the on-air experience yet. Still a better option that Noory, imo.

It may have been a lot easier transition to see her host the weekend shows and fill-in for Art when needed. Build the audience's trust that way.
Instead she is being baptized by fire, due to the sudden departure of Art, and there is no short-term winning in that situation.

She could be Rush Limbaugh's love-child, but it doesn't give her any more legitimacy as an on-air talent. A family background in radio is interesting but it is worth nothing if you haven't had any first-hand experience yourself - I don't think 'trust me, my dad's a doctor' is going to fill you with much confidence if you have suffered an accident, for example. I think we can name all sorts of people who have got an unearned break (particularly in entertainment) because their parents were prominent in the industry, but they need to succeed on their own merit. To me, she sounds like anyone else who is being thrown in the deep end. If she had started small she could have discovered her own strengths and weaknesses, while here it's all on-the-job training, and people are bound to feel annoyed and short-changed by it all. It would be interesting, above all, to hear why Art is so keen on having her as his replacement, beyond his vague comments of support. What does he hear that we are missing?

You may well be right about it being her real name, but judging by her insistence on remaining anonymous, that seemed unlikely. But who knows?

[HumanBeing]

She could be Rush Limbaugh's love-child, but it doesn't give her any more legitimacy as an on-air talent. A family background in radio is interesting but it is worth nothing if you haven't had any first-hand experience yourself - I don't think 'trust me, my dad's a doctor' is going to fill you with much confidence if you have suffered an accident, for example. I think we can name all sorts of people who have got an unearned break (particularly in entertainment) because their parents were prominent in the industry, but they need to succeed on their own merit. To me, she sounds like anyone else who is being thrown in the deep end. If she had started small she could have discovered her own strengths and weaknesses, while here it's all on-the-job training, and people are bound to feel annoyed and short-changed by it all. It would be interesting, above all, to hear why Art is so keen on having her as his replacement, beyond his vague comments of support. What does he hear that we are missing?

You may well be right about it being her real name, but judging by her insistence on remaining anonymous, that seemed unlikely. But who knows?

Good points.
I guess what I was trying to convey is I think because of the speculated history her family (both mother and father) has in radio, 30+ years, she should be aware of some of the background noise and shenanigans that happen behind the scenes. Whether that ultimately helps much is definitely questionable and remains to be seen.

[stargazr1976]

By the power vested in me, as the Great EmmVee, I demand that from this point forward all posts conform to the sensibilities of random internet user "Phrodo." You've all been warned.

Can I have a handbook?

[stargazr1976]

Its a little late Butttttt merry christmas and happy new year to you fuckers.

[bellNwhistle]

[Lilith]

Your comment made me curious, so I clicked on the Gabcast link at the top.  I listened to an episode for the first time, the 12/20 edition.  I believe that's the day I joined the site.  I heard MV, of course, and also Onan, Meister, SciFiAuthor, and White Crow. 

Which was pretty wild.  I had no idea that members of the site can call in and even co-host the show.  If I'd known that, I would not have called so many people shitheads and faggots and such.

Well, what's done is done.  There goes my chance at fame.

It's like Grandma always said to us kids - "We are too soon old and too late smart. Plus, you're all a bunch of faggots."

When MV posts for co-hosts on the GabCast thread, just post and say you'll do it in the GabCast thread.  MV accepts the first three bellgabbers..

[SredniVashtar]

Good points.
I guess what I was trying to convey is I think because of the speculated history her family (both mother and father) has in radio, 30+ years, she should be aware of some of the background noise and shenanigans that happen behind the scenes. Whether that ultimately helps much is definitely questionable and remains to be seen.

Thanks for the background, by the way, because I hadn't heard that before. There must be a reason why Art is so keen on her, and the fact that everyone is keeping so quiet about it all just leads to the kind of speculation we have seen on these boards, myself included. Art always strikes me as the sort of guy to try and help his buddies out (cf. Hoagland), and it may well be the case here, of nothing more than a sense of misplaced loyalty to someone. Who knows, but I don't think the cloak of secrecy helps anyone. Personally, I don't care who she is, but it feels like someone isn't really serious about it if they are that concerned about avoiding any sort of scrutiny.

[GravitySucks]

😎

[Freyja]

Were you typing text wall complaint letters to him every few days back then too? I mean Jesus Freyja, it's been complain, complain, complain, Hoagland is better than you, complain, complain for months. Quit browbeating poor Art.

Expressing one's opinion on something is not complaining, nor is it brow beating, nor is it trolling...AND there is nothing poor about Art.

Art is the best broadcaster bar none when he is on his game. I have archives of his shows, Dreamland etc. going back to 1994.

How would anyone including Art ever get a barometer on what his audience thinks and feels about his show if all he gets as feedback is "oh Art", "you're the greatest", "we all love you" blablabla. Would you prefer that those who don't like something just quietly walk away? How would Art or any host ever get a clear picture of how they are doing relative to their audience?

I NEVER said that Hoagland was better than Art. What I did say is that I was enjoying OSOM more than MITD and that was my honest opinion for many of the programs.

I also stated that I felt that Art had many other options in light of this current situation, however it seems he chose not to explore any of them except to quit MITD, whether in haste, emotion or whatever.

I believe in fair feedback/opinion which includes both darts and laurels when appropriate, not in ubiquitous sycophanthic adulation.

[Walks_At_Night]

It seems as though the only person who doesn't get to broadcast for free is Hoaxie. Kind of fucked up honestly. Especially since he is the stations biggest star and best radio personality. I have no idea why Hoaxie hasn't told Art and Keith to fuck off, especially since they did try to sabotage his show.

What kind of insanity is this?  Why would they do that?

Great - now i'll have to wade thru a thousand pages of muck to see what is up with that........ 

[IcicleTrepan]

Your comment made me curious, so I clicked on the Gabcast link at the top.  I listened to an episode for the first time, the 12/20 edition.  I believe that's the day I joined the site.  I heard MV, of course, and also Onan, Meister, SciFiAuthor, and White Crow. 

Which was pretty wild.  I had no idea that members of the site can call in and even co-host the show.  If I'd known that, I would not have called so many people shitheads and faggots and such.

Well, what's done is done.  There goes my chance at fame.

It's like Grandma always said to us kids - "We are too soon old and too late smart. Plus, you're all a bunch of faggots."

IMO it used to be a lot better when Jazmunda and Redacted were co hosting.  It seems to now be a revolving door of hosts that I can't really relate to.  I don't really listen to it unless there's a recap about Art as I don't always have time to read what's been going on.  I can understand why Redacted doesn't do it anymore but I have no idea what happened to Jaz.

[Auslandia]

Thanks for the background, by the way, because I hadn't heard that before. There must be a reason why Art is so keen on her, and the fact that everyone is keeping so quiet about it all just leads to the kind of speculation we have seen on these boards, myself included. Art always strikes me as the sort of guy to try and help his buddies out (cf. Hoagland), and it may well be the case here, of nothing more than a sense of misplaced loyalty to someone. Who knows, but I don't think the cloak of secrecy helps anyone. Personally, I don't care who she is, but it feels like someone isn't really serious about it if they are that concerned about avoiding any sort of scrutiny.

Someone said it during the past week... Can't remember who but the point was valid...  What the hell would you do in her situation? 

Would you say thanks but no thanks & call it a day?  While most of us here are quick to criticize her choice I bet most of us would grab that mic and run with it.  What fan in their right mind would pass up that opportunity?  Plus, this is her job I think.  When faced with losing your job right before the holidays would you just say fuck it & bail?  I doubt it.  She may have a family to feed for all I know.  She may have a mortgage to pay.  Who the hell knows?  I'd hang on to that fucking job like my ridiculously perfect dick was attached to it if it meant keeping my income. 

I bet it wasn't even her idea to host it.  Art probably asked her.  So you think she's gonna say no to him?  As far as the quality of the show goes...what did you expect?  Pro quality with an amateur at the helm?  That's unrealistic.  So the fact that everyone cancelled their subscriptions makes perfect sense and it's completely legit.  Everyone was paying to hear Art.  He's no longer hosting the show hence we don't pay for it.  I don't think there are any issues there.


Now, Keith or whoever it was that asked for subscriptions can suck my fantastically flawless cock.  We aren't getting what we paid for so that's an unreasonable request.  But just as we owe nothing to DMDN, it owes nothing to us.  Getting mad about the lack of information provided about the status of the network is pointless.  We can all choose to stop paying.  It's simple.  It's not like when Art go everyone to subscribe to Sirius then bailed.  This subscription required no special equipment and that $5 was even offered to be refunded.  So I have to problems there.

For you weirdos that think Heather should start posting pics of herself along with her home address, get a life.  Just as a baseline reason not to to...you do realize someone with a far less superior kick stand than my showroom quality one was threatening Art's life.  Would you just start telling everyone all your personal details knowing that this asshole was stil out there?  She's affiliated with the show too.  Who knows whether this person would choose to go after her too.  I don't blame her.  There was one caller on the last open lines show that illustrated a perfect reason not to post pics.  He sounded like a creepy stalker talking about how perfect she is, how people probably approach her in public & want to date her etc.  I don't remember his exact wording but I would have traced that fucking call lol.  I don't know why people think they can call and say weirdo shit like that to women.

I do hope Art gets through whatever the hell is happening to him and I also hope Heather succeeds at broadcasting or whatever it is she wants to do.

[GravitySucks]

What kind of insanity is this?  Why would they do that?

Great - now i'll have to wade thru a thousand pages of muck to see what is up with that........ 

Hoagland's OSOM and Art Bell's MITD were the two shows that were started with a subscription model for access to the archives.  It was advertised from the inception of MITD that the Time Travelers would be subsidizing the free streaming model for the free access for the remainder of the audience.

DMRN began hosting other shows prior to Art's return.  Some of these shows were live, but most of them were prerecorded. As Keith clearly stated, he had been supporting the live shows from a technical standpoint for free, and was no longer willing to continue to do that.

Darth Sandra has disclosed that she is a communist and, as such, she probably thinks every thing should be provided to the masses for free.  Well nothing is free. Keith was providing technical support to the other live broadcasts to build up his own network in anticipation of Art's return.  He decided he was no longer willing to do that.

Since MITD and OSOM have subscriber models, their contract with Keith is that he gets to keep some portion of that money for providing technical boardops support, bandwidth for the live shows, and maintenance of the archived shows for subsequent downloading.

[GravitySucks]

IMO it used to be a lot better when Jazmunda and Redacted were co hosting.  It seems to now be a revolving door of hosts that I can't really relate to.  I don't really listen to it unless there's a recap about Art as I don't always have time to read what's been going on.  I can understand why Redacted doesn't do it anymore but I have no idea what happened to Jaz.

Jaz has a long storied history of being the destroyer.  He destroyed the GabCast... but in all actuality...

Jazmunda and 3 others went off to start their own podcast called PodCast Not Included.  There is a whole thread for that show in BellGab.

[IcicleTrepan]

Someone said it during the past week... Can't remember who but the point was valid...  What the hell would you do in her situation? 

Would you say thanks but no thanks & call it a day?  While most of us here are quick to criticize her choice I bet most of us would grab that mic and run with it.  What fan in their right mind would pass up that opportunity?  Plus, this is her job I think.  When faced with losing your job right before the holidays would you just say fuck it & bail?  I doubt it.  She may have a family to feed for all I know.  She may have a mortgage to pay.  Who the hell knows?  I'd hang on to that fucking job like my ridiculously perfect dick was attached to it if it meant keeping my income. 

I bet it wasn't even her idea to host it.  Art probably asked her.  So you think she's gonna say no to him?  As far as the quality of the show goes...what did you expect?  Pro quality with an amateur at the helm?  That's unrealistic.  So the fact that everyone cancelled their subscriptions makes perfect sense and it's completely legit.  Everyone was paying to hear Art.  He's no longer hosting the show hence we don't pay for it.  I don't think there are any issues there.


Now, Keith or whoever it was that asked for subscriptions can suck my fantastically flawless cock.  We aren't getting what we paid for so that's an unreasonable request.  But just as we owe nothing to DMDN, it owes nothing to us.  Getting mad about the lack of information provided about the status of the network is pointless.  We can all choose to stop paying.  It's simple.  It's not like when Art go everyone to subscribe to Sirius then bailed.  This subscription required no special equipment and that $5 was even offered to be refunded.  So I have to problems there.

For you weirdos that think Heather should start posting pics of herself along with her home address, get a life.  Just as a baseline reason not to to...you do realize someone with a far less superior kick stand than my showroom quality one was threatening Art's life.  Would you just start telling everyone all your personal details knowing that this asshole was stil out there?  She's affiliated with the show too.  Who knows whether this person would choose to go after her too.  I don't blame her.  There was one caller on the last open lines show that illustrated a perfect reason not to post pics.  He sounded like a creepy stalker talking about how perfect she is, how people probably approach her in public & want to date her etc.  I don't remember his exact wording but I would have traced that fucking call lol.  I don't know why people think they can call and say weirdo shit like that to women.

I do hope Art gets through whatever the hell is happening to him and I also hope Heather succeeds at broadcasting or whatever it is she wants to do.

I'm not sure why people are so determined to find out who she is and what she looks like, unless it's all for their spank bank.  A jpeg isn't going to make her shows any different.  We also all know that as soon as it's out there some asshole is going to stick her head onto a picture from porn.  Look at what people do to Noory's picture around here, she'll get the same treatment.  She knows this.

It doesn't matter who she is, what matters is her plan.  She's either going to improve while putting out better and better shows or she's not and she will be done.  I think she's getting better but only time will tell.

[FightTheFuture]

People still talking about Art leaving. Incredible.

Don`t worry; he`ll be back.

[IcicleTrepan]

Jaz has a long storied history of being the destroyer.  He destroyed the GabCast... but in all actuality...

Jazmunda and 3 others went off to start their own podcast called PodCast Not Included.  There is a whole thread for that show in BellGab.

Thanks for that, I will have to check them out.

[chefist]

Yes, Sir. We are pleased to report everyone still has the very same opinion they originally had. At one point someone considered changing their mind, instead however they went to bed.

Well someone did something constructive then! That's good!

[malachi.martini]

Personally, I don't care who she is, but it feels like someone isn't really serious about it if they are that concerned about avoiding any sort of scrutiny.

I don't give a fuck who she is, what she looks like either. I suspect her reticence is more mired in her years long practice of shitting on Noory publicly, calling his listeners Noorons, and being acutely aware of how awful being on the receiving end of that can be. She's fairly intelligent, but massively insecure, and likely a coward. When Art's offering pictures of his 8 year old for public consumption, and his wife is consenting to that, I can't imagine any of them being under that much duress from phantoms in the desert. The real boogeyman here of course is public opinion.

[bellNwhistle]

People still talking about Art leaving. Incredible.

Don`t worry; he`ll be back.

People still talking about Art "lying"or "hiding something", or "not having a stalker". Annoying.
Don't worry; I'm sure it will continue.

[SredniVashtar]

Someone said it during the past week... Can't remember who but the point was valid...  What the hell would you do in her situation? 

Would you say thanks but no thanks & call it a day?  While most of us here are quick to criticize her choice I bet most of us would grab that mic and run with it.  What fan in their right mind would pass up that opportunity?  Plus, this is her job I think.  When faced with losing your job right before the holidays would you just say fuck it & bail?  I doubt it.  She may have a family to feed for all I know.  She may have a mortgage to pay.  Who the hell knows?  I'd hang on to that fucking job like my ridiculously perfect dick was attached to it if it meant keeping my income.

OK, ridiculously perfect dick. First of all, I'd decide whether I was up to the job or not. This is the very definition of jumping in at the deep end, and you take the chance of drowning if you can't swim. I don't know whether 'most' of us would do the same in that situation, I know I wouldn't. I'd be horrible and would have the sense not to take on something I could not do. She might get an 'A' for effort, but that doesn't count for much if you can't cut the mustard, with paying subscribers to satisfy.

I bet it wasn't even her idea to host it.  Art probably asked her.  So you think she's gonna say no to him? 

Yes, if she's an adult. You can politely decline the invitation to do something you lack the skills to perform. I guess you'd walk in front of a juggernaut if Art asked you to, but most people would decide whether it's worth the risk, even if they got a pat on the head for doing so.

As far as the quality of the show goes...what did you expect?  Pro quality with an amateur at the helm?  That's unrealistic.  So the fact that everyone cancelled their subscriptions makes perfect sense and it's completely legit.  Everyone was paying to hear Art.  He's no longer hosting the show hence we don't pay for it.  I don't think there are any issues there.

No, I expect pro quality with a pro at the helm. This isn't the Paralympics and you don't get a medal just for showing up. Art has to decide whether the network (organised, no doubt, at the cost of great time and effort by his 'friend' Keith) was worth saving or not. If not, let the thing die and Art can take the consequences. At the moment, it feels like someone who is trying to weasel out of responsibility by throwing someone in to take the heat for him. If he wanted to keep it going, I would hope he had the money and the clout to get someone with experience and of a decent standard to keep the flag flying. IF he wanted to keep it going, which I don't think he did, or does.

Now, Keith or whoever it was that asked for subscriptions can suck my fantastically flawless cock.

We can only hope he sucks as hard as your most recent post. At least give him a courtesy reacharound for all that effort.

For you weirdos that think Heather should start posting pics of herself along with her home address, get a life.  Just as a baseline reason not to to...you do realize someone with a far less superior kick stand than my showroom quality one was threatening Art's life.  Would you just start telling everyone all your personal details knowing that this asshole was stil out there?  She's affiliated with the show too.  Who knows whether this person would choose to go after her too.  I don't blame her.  There was one caller on the last open lines show that illustrated a perfect reason not to post pics.  He sounded like a creepy stalker talking about how perfect she is, how people probably approach her in public & want to date her etc.  I don't remember his exact wording but I would have traced that fucking call lol.  I don't know why people think they can call and say weirdo shit like that to women.

This is babble from the sick bed, dear boy. Nurse, the screens! I have hardly heard the bloody show, and a picture, details, whatever are at the very end of a very long list of priorities for me. But, if you want to be taken seriously these days, I don't think she can play peek-a-boo with her listeners and be taken as a legitimate broadcaster. She isn't Lamont Cranston, and we aren't in the forties! You are always risking the potential of having a stalker after you if you are in any kind of prominent position. FFS, you can be a supermarket manager or a toilet attendant and have someone come after you if they are sufficiently unhinged. And your assumptions are predicated on whether this stalker of Art's rides to Pahrump on a unicorn or not, and has his residence under a rainbow.

I do hope Art gets through whatever the hell is happening to him and I also hope Heather succeeds at broadcasting or whatever it is she wants to do.

Fair enough, but if you are in these situations then you must realise that there is always a down side to them. If you aren't willing to deal with them - and nobody says you have to - then it's sensible to avoid it in the first place. That's all.

[nooryisawesome]

It's impossible to keep up with this thread.

Oh well I think people are just rehashing the same arguments.