George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium

[nooryisawesome]

Hope you all had a great weekend.
Be well.
GN

I'm really looking forward to Thursday nights show John jaffis on haunted objects. Try not to suck to hard george. Avoid interrupting your guest when he's telling a interesting story, while at the same time keeping the show on track.

Also in my opinion, while I am sure they are nice people the main guest for Monday and Tuesday night do not provide interesting topics. Unless perhaps they can enlighten you, to your own suckage.

[Roy Hinkley]

Sure, but Art laughed at himself. He didn't turn it into the plot of a soap opera, take 3 days off, bang on about it for weeks afterwards or threaten to sue the makers of Super Glue or start a public safety campaign. Art knew he'd done a dumb thing, laughed, and got on with his job like a proper professional.

Not 100% certain, but I doubt he had to have his producer take him to the hospital either.

[Roy Hinkley]

go to Art's site open it in separate window, minimize window to just show calendar.

Thanks onan, I hadn't even been to the site recently and didn't realize he already had the clock idea.

[SaucyRossy]

George, how was your weekend?

See a movie or anything?

[eddie dean]

Hilarious

just gotta figure out what snippet to use.... and should I use it as a ringtone... or a notification for texxxing?

Well done, sir 

The I'm Dave Noory song is addictive. I've listened 7 times and still laugh.

BHUYAA!!!  Well done Eddie! 

Great job, that's awesome!

AMAZING Eddie.

Replacement for UFO Phil

Oh please God no!

Very good!

This. Is. Phenomenal.

Thanks Everyone!!

Bit Lame

Thanks for registering today just  to call this "bit Lame" Jesus Undercarriage.
It made my day!
Man, is that commitment or what!
Welcome, post often!

[ACE of CLUBS]

i'll bet hoagland wears brut fabergé.

Are you going to give him the 'sniff test' .... ?

[aldousburbank]

Crap I missed out on page 1000 of this thread! Crap I have to get a Sirius subscription!  Crap George Noory SUX!  Crap I missed you fine weirdos!

(What a crappy first re-post)

[karios8]

Hope you all had a great weekend.
Be well.
GN

So you're emulating John B Wells now?

[SaucyRossy]

George, did your skin get thin again? Plenty of people here enjoy chatting with you.

Or maybe you're busy with show prep?

[SciFiAuthor]

Sure, but Art laughed at himself. He didn't turn it into the plot of a soap opera, take 3 days off, bang on about it for weeks afterwards or threaten to sue the makers of Super Glue or start a public safety campaign. Art knew he'd done a dumb thing, laughed, and got on with his job like a proper professional.

All I remember is part of his lip was in the ash tray. That said, Art had his moments where he was a royal pain in the a$$ to the regular listener too. I don't want to get into the "so-called" retirements that didn't seem to be so-called at the time, but the fact is Art had his drama.

That said, Art is one of the most gifted radio broadcasters of the latter half of the 20th century. He has an interview style that was unequalled on radio. I mean the Charlie Rose of the airwaves. He also was able to cultivate an atmosphere in the show that was unbelievably awesome. That's a hard act to follow.

So let's take Noory on his own. Remove Art Bell from the equation and compare George to the rest of radio. Talk funny? Um, if you think George has an impediment, try tuning into Diane Rehm. If you think George is a terrible interviewer, listen to Michael Savage interview someone. If you think George is outlandish, give Rense or Alex Jones a listen. If you think George says dumb things, you haven't heard Imus on a good day, much less a bad one. George Noory really isn't that bad.

You guys were handed a golden opportunity. You got Art back. I'm so ready for that, I've already said screw it and signed up for SiriusXM. But we also could have been open, honest, adult and mature when George showed up asking us what he was doing wrong. The very worst that could have happened would have been no change in the show at all. Oh well, tune out. At best, George might have listened and tailored the show to something that you would like, and then you would have 7 hours of good programming to your taste spread over two hosts, and more exposure to the guests you like.

I just don't see what the hell would be wrong with that. I mean, why blow an opportunity to be directly heard? It didn't make any sense.

Though, I will admit, neither Art nor George could possibly smell as lovely as Hoagland. If scent came over the airwaves, that wonderful mix of Brut, Old Spice and Tex-Mex food could make any man question his preferences. His chiseled hair, flowing like the Martian wind over a mesa mistaken for a face, could induce anyone into a euphoria. Who could blame Cronkite for hiring him? Not I. Who could blame NASA for being jealous? Not I, again. Only the claim of spotting Mr. Data's head on the moon could deflate my man-crush for Hoagland, and it certainly did. 

[The General]

Crap I missed out on page 1000 of this thread! Crap I have to get a Sirius subscription!  Crap George Noory SUX!  Crap I missed you fine weirdos!

(What a crappy first re-post)

Sup Bruh

[aldousburbank]

I'm beginning to think that the mayan calendar was actually counting down arts return

I would say yes, in that consciousness and awareness being the energetic body of the the cosmic Quetzalcoatl, Art is the serpents head at the microphone.  This is going to be a fun new Baktun guys.  I'm making popcorn.

[aldousburbank]

Sup Bruh

You know, just happy to make landfall here after a long ordeal at sea.  Missed this place.  Me be doing lotsa catch-up reading and laughing.  Thanks for keeping the campfire going everyone.

[The General]

You know, just happy to make landfall here after a long ordeal at sea.  Missed this place.  Me be doing lotsa catch-up reading and laughing.  Thanks for keeping the campfire going everyone.

Just to recap what you missed...
We've gone through the looking glass.  Fort Rock was right (Art's coming back), George Noory himself posts here (but Art won't), Anagrammy's still gone, and Alejandro's balls are still MIA.

[PB the Deplorable]

...  So let's take Noory on his own. Remove Art Bell from the equation and compare George to the rest of radio. Talk funny? Um, if you think George has an impediment, try tuning into Diane Rehm. If you think George is a terrible interviewer, listen to Michael Savage interview someone. If you think George is outlandish, give Rense or Alex Jones a listen. If you think George says dumb things, you haven't heard Imus on a good day, much less a bad one. George Noory really isn't that bad.

You guys were handed a golden opportunity. You got Art back. I'm so ready for that, I've already said screw it and signed up for SiriusXM. But we also could have been open, honest, adult and mature when George showed up asking us what he was doing wrong. The very worst that could have happened would have been no change in the show at all. Oh well, tune out. At best, George might have listened and tailored the show to something that you would like, and then you would have 7 hours of good programming to your taste spread over two hosts, and more exposure to the guests you like.

I just don't see what the hell would be wrong with that. I mean, why blow an opportunity to be directly heard? It didn't make any sense...

So and so is as bad as George at this, such and such is as bad as George at that, someone else is as bad as George on something else... but no one combines all those traits in one host the way George does.

As far as engaging George - people did.  I did.  I don't remember him asking what he was doing wrong, or even admitting he was doing anything wrong.  When did he do that? 

I do remember him saying he is who he is, that the show is hugely successful, that he is responsible for that (!), and they've grown the number of stations, and the ratings are at an all time high.  He never said a thing about suggestions about how to improve, and ignored our questions and comments relating to anything along those lines.

[aldousburbank]

So let's take Noory on his own. Remove Art Bell from the equation and compare George to the rest of radio. Talk funny? Um, if you think George has an impediment, try tuning into Diane Rehm. If you think George is a terrible interviewer, listen to Michael Savage interview someone. If you think George is outlandish, give Rense or Alex Jones a listen. If you think George says dumb things, you haven't heard Imus on a good day, much less a bad one. George Noory really isn't that bad.

This is good stuff SciFi.  Well put.  BTW, I love Imus as it is so excellently stupid.  I laugh every morning listening to these misfits.  It's like an awesome trainwreck.  IMO the Imus crew spouts stuff at least once a month that are more hurtful and whacked than any of the Rutgers scandal stuff that Jackson and Sharpton fanned the flames for to cool their own behinds.  This is why I love the show.

[eddie dean]

Crap I missed out on page 1000 of this thread! Crap I have to get a Sirius subscription!  Crap George Noory SUX!  Crap I missed you fine weirdos!

(What a crappy first re-post)

yeah, nothing much has happened around here in the past month

Welcome back!

[aldousburbank]

Heh.  I still miss Lena.

[SciFiAuthor]

This is good stuff SciFi.  Well put.  BTW, I love Imus as it is so excellently stupid.  I laugh every morning listening to these misfits.  It's like an awesome trainwreck.  IMO the Imus crew spouts stuff at least once a month that are more hurtful and whacked than any of the Rutgers scandal stuff that Jackson and Sharpton fanned the flames for to cool their own behinds.  This is why I love the show.

I listen, occasionally, for the same reason. It's a train wreck, and it's certainly more dicey than most shows. Actually, let's expand it. ANY radio is better than TV. I quit watching TV other than Netflix movies years ago. Who needs it? If I want to see a TV series, I'll just wait until it's over and watch it at my leisure. Radio is so much more freaking awesome.

[ziznak]

wtf you been aldous

[aldousburbank]

Radio is so much more freaking awesome.

Shyeh, my mom has a picture of me at 7 yrs old with my transistor radio and an earbud in.

[Spinner]

Adding to what Paper*Boy wrote above, Dave had the audacity to say that if he were as bad as we say he is, he would not have lasted that long on C2C. He didn't come here looking for opinions on how to improve. He thinks he is fine the way he is.
Dave has no shame.

The only reason he came here is to create discord among BellGab's members, just like he did at the Fantastic Forum (the biggest Art Bell fans forum at the time) a few years back. He succeeded there. The forum fractured and pretty much died.

He's trying to do the same here. Why now? Because, now that Art is coming back, Dave and his crew don't want a big and popular Art Bell forum to support Art. Dave's goal is to destroy this Art Bell fans community. He's done it before and thinks he can do it again.

Don't fall for it.

[aldousburbank]

wtf you been aldous

Getting over the Alien Virus, smuggling cocaine into Peru, surfing on the Salton Sea, and working on my personal Ziggurat.  What's up around here?

[SciFiAuthor]

So and so is as bad as George at this, such and such is as bad as George at that, someone else is as bad as George on something else... but no one combines all those traits in one host the way George does.

As far as engaging George - people did.  I did.  I don't remember him asking what he was doing wrong, or even admitting he was doing anything wrong.  When did he do that? 

I do remember him saying he is who he is, that the show is hugely successful, that he is responsible for that (!), and they've grown the number of stations, and the ratings are at an all time high.  He never said a thing about suggestions about how to improve, and ignored our questions and comments relating to anything along those lines.

Go back, click his name, click posts and here is what you see:

George Post 47

"Can I grow, fine tune, absolutely ---Have I made mistakes.....he who hasnt cast the first stone."

George Post 51

"actually Dave has decided to kick it up a notch because of all of you.
Thank you!...I found something I lost a long long time ago. "

George Post 53

"Look Ive reached out to you, I WANT this better, I actually care about your concerns or Id have stayed far away. "

George Post 56

"Now can I improve? Absolutely "

George Post 64

"Not the true hater, I cant learn from them , but many many of you who listen day in and day out,---that's who I want to listen to."

"If someone doesnt think they can grow and learn everyday then they are kidding themselves. Bellgabers, I am far from perfect
and realize that I can get better."

George Post 73

"why did I wait 10 years...because I was wrong "

George Post 74

"Roy...im doing this because I care about every listener....and if you are upset with the show..then its high time to find out why."

George Post 84

"Regardless of whether you continue to listen to me or not.......those of you who have truly offered constructive criticism...I do appreciate it..anyone who cant grow and learn has a closed mind."

George Post 86

"Saucy you can email me constructive criticism all day---I relish it...I learn from...it"


The guy bent over backwards, and you guys blew it big time. I've never actually seen a group of people blow it like that (Not all of you!). You're like the people in the 90's that said "Bah, Apple won't come back. Don't buy that stock at $30/share!"

[aldousburbank]

Go back, click his name, click posts and here is what you see:

George Post 47

"Can I grow, fine tune, absolutely ---Have I made mistakes.....he who hasnt cast the first stone."

George Post 51

"actually Dave has decided to kick it up a notch because of all of you.
Thank you!...I found something I lost a long long time ago. "

George Post 53

"Look Ive reached out to you, I WANT this better, I actually care about your concerns or Id have stayed far away. "

George Post 56

"Now can I improve? Absolutely "

George Post 64

"Not the true hater, I cant learn from them , but many many of you who listen day in and day out,---that's who I want to listen to."

"If someone doesnt think they can grow and learn everyday then they are kidding themselves. Bellgabers, I am far from perfect
and realize that I can get better."

George Post 73

"why did I wait 10 years...because I was wrong "

George Post 74

"Roy...im doing this because I care about every listener....and if you are upset with the show..then its high time to find out why."

George Post 84

"Regardless of whether you continue to listen to me or not.......those of you who have truly offered constructive criticism...I do appreciate it..anyone who cant grow and learn has a closed mind."

George Post 86

"Saucy you can email me constructive criticism all day---I relish it...I learn from...it"


The guy bent over backwards, and you guys blew it big time. I've never actually seen a group of people blow it like that (Not all of you!). You're like the people in the 90's that said "Bah, Apple won't come back. Don't buy that stock at $30/share!"

What, Georgy wrote stuff?  Man I've gotta go read that.  From what's quoted here it looks like some Damn fine reading.

[nooryisawesome]

Noory has been blowing for 10+ years.
The man let's medical quacks on his show that hurt people.
I understand and realize george thinks this is in because he doesn't personally endorse them

But dam it there is a HUGE and non understatable difference between interviewing guys claiming to have met little green men and people giving dangerous medical advice. Simple george doesn't understand this.

[PB the Deplorable]

Go back, click his name, click posts and here is what you see...




The guy bent over backwards, and you guys blew it big time. I've never actually seen a group of people blow it like that (Not all of you!). You're like the people in the 90's that said "Bah, Apple won't come back. Don't buy that stock at $30/share!"

That's all pretty bland and non-specific.  Everything he said in your quotes could apply to everyone in the world - 'I can grow, I've made mistakes?', 'I've reached out to you, I care',  'everyone can improve', 'I can grow and learn', 'I appreciate constructive criticism'.   

Don't get me wrong, I think it's great George came here and said those things.  It's a start, and he didn't have to do even that.  But what he did not do is address the specific questions, comments and complaints that were posed to him..

The fact is he doesn't come to the show as prepared as he should - not even close, it sure seems like he isn't listening to what the guest and callers are saying much of the time, he isn't asking the obvious follow up questions and making it a true conversation - he sounds like he's just waiting for the guest to take a breath so he can read his next question, he has far too many people on making dubious health claims that have less than stellar backgrounds.

We asked him about all this and more, and got no response.  We did what you are saying we should have done.    Maybe now that he's tested the waters here, if he truly wants to improve he can come back and discuss some of this.

Are you from PremRat?

[Roy Hinkley]

What, Georgy wrote stuff?  Man I've gotta go read that.  From what's quoted here it looks like some Damn fine reading.

aldousburbank,

I think it starts on page 987 if I remember correctly.

[PB the Deplorable]

I think it starts on page 987 if I remember correctly.

or you can go to 'member list', find gnoory, go to his posts and just read those.

[SciFiAuthor]

Adding to what Paper*Boy wrote above, Dave had the audacity to say that if he were as bad as we say he is, he would not have lasted that long on C2C. He didn't come here looking for opinions on how to improve. He thinks he is fine the way he is.
Dave has no shame.

The only reason he came here is to create discord among BellGab's members, just like he did at the Fantastic Forum (the biggest Art Bell fans forum at the time) a few years back. He succeeded there. The forum fractured and pretty much died.

He's trying to do the same here. Why now? Because, now that Art is coming back, Dave and his crew don't want a big and popular Art Bell forum to support Art. Dave's goal is to destroy this Art Bell fans community. He's done it before and thinks he can do it again.

Don't fall for it.

Well, actually, he can back that up with fact: he's obviously still there. The show still has a huge amount of affiliates. The show has great ratings. Obviously he's bringing in the cash, and if he wasn't he wouldn't be there. That show, and Art's new show, exist for one reason: to post a profit as far as the corporations that host them are concerned. They do not exist to please you personally. They exist to bring in money for Premiere and SiriusXM. If George wasn't cutting the mustard and showing a profit, he'd have been gone long ago like Mike Seigal was. That's not audacity, that's a reality of business.

As far as the Fantastic Forum, look, the operator of the thing died and it had to reinvent itself when the host it was dedicated to wasn't on the air. Nothing will survive that.  A forum lives and dies based on it's content. If the person for whom the content is relevant shows up and posts there, then it's pure freaking gold for that forum. It is not a bad thing. Ever. There is no such thing as bad publicity. Division is a good thing, by and large, forums do better if their content is divisive. Just like novels, they live and die based on conflict, conflict, conflict. The whole point of a "George Noory Sucks" thread is to be divisive. That's the MO, to take one team or the other by the very nature of the concept. If anything, George legitimized and promoted Art and this forum and if 1/200th of George's listenership knew this was going on, this forum would grow exponentially over a matter of days. It pays to remember that.