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Started by The General, February 11, 2011, 01:33:34 AM

albrecht

Quote from: onan on February 17, 2016, 05:24:44 PM

The biggest overall ad spenders

    Team Bush: $80.9 million
    Team Rubio: $50.4 million
    Team Sanders: $25 million
    Team Clinton: $20 million
    Team Cruz: $16.8 million
    Team Trump: $8.5 million

The biggest South Carolina ad spenders

    Team Bush: $12.8 million
    Team Rubio: $11.1 million
    Team Cruz: $8.1 million
    Team Trump: $1.3 million
    Team Sanders: $878,000
    Team Clinton: $712,000
    Team Carson: $696,000

The biggest Nevada ad spenders

    Team Clinton: $3.3 million
    Team Sanders: $3.2 million
    Team Rubio: $560,000
Wow, if those numbers are true it is crazy and no wonder the 'establish' is going nuts with Trump and Bernie in the races and doing so well. That is nuts! Is the problem dedicated adherents? Less people watching old media? Badly targeted? Inside the Beltway, K-Street, and agencies not "understanding" the public?

ps: I'm a bit curious how a communist socialist comes up with that kind of money for ads and why wouldn't get more use being redistributed to his supporters, or to soup-kitchens, but that is an aside (reminds of the dedicated folks selling copies of the Socialist Worker on the Mall in college.)

pps: the mere fact that people and groups, in some cases a person, is willing to spend so much money to get elected to a position that pays so little confirms my cynicism about politicians.

Lena

https://youtu.be/LJ3bm5zoMQw?t=40m28s

Incredible Donald Trump Campaign Rally In Tampa, Florida

'I'd love to run against her,' he said of Clinton. 'I'd also love to run against the communist.'
Trump took aim at his Republican challengers too, making a fast-asleep motion with his hands together like a pillow under his head at the first mention of former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush

'He's asleep. He's asleep at the wheel, folks,' Trump said.



Lena

Quote from: Designx on February 17, 2016, 07:16:21 PM
I still don't think Trump will be the candidate.

http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/surprise-trump-falls-behind-cruz-national-nbc-wsj-poll-n520296
Establishment media trying to influence people with stupid poll of 100 people.



Lena


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-reFOzVbSQ

Tuesday, Donald Trump called a news conference from South Carolina. Naturally everyone showed up.
It was an entirely different Trump that we see in debates. He spoke without notes and looked calm, commanding and for the first time, completely presidential.
For anyone not sure about Trump, please have them watch this, the first half of this news conference.
And I’m talking about you, Jimmy & Jonathan â€" please consider this. You guys know I’m not usually wrong.
I’m still reporting from Washington. Good day.

MV/Liberace!

Quote from: Lena on February 17, 2016, 08:59:44 PM
Establishment media trying to influence people with stupid poll of 100 people.

only 100 people?  really?  they must think they've perfected polling to such a science that they can pull it off accurately with such a small pool.  i'm told that by the year 2021, they'll have political polling down to a sample of 5 just people.

i'm sure limbaugh will be tripping all over himself tomorrow to discuss this poll.  he's obviously a cruz guy, although he understands the trump phenomenon.

Designx

Quote from: Lena on February 17, 2016, 08:59:44 PM
Establishment media trying to influence people with stupid poll of 100 people.

Well if I'm reading it right at the bottom the page of the article, the poll had 800 registered voters and 400 GOP primary voters.

Quote from: MV on February 17, 2016, 09:52:00 PM
only 100 people?  really?  they must think they've perfected polling to such a science that they can pull it off accurately with such a small pool.  i'm told that by the year 2021, they'll have political polling down to a sample of 5 just people.

i'm sure limbaugh will be tripping all over himself tomorrow to discuss this poll.  he's obviously a cruz guy, although he understands the trump phenomenon.

As do I.  I will vote for Trump if he is the nominee but I will not support him in the primaries.  I don't like his sue-happy attitude- that is one of the problems with this country we live in now- and he acts like a baby a lot.  He whines and cries until he gets his way.  He's very immature.  He is also a liar.

GravitySucks

Quote from: Designx on February 17, 2016, 10:11:11 PM
Well if I'm reading it right at the bottom the page of the article, the poll had 800 registered voters and 400 GOP primary voters.

NBC is still pissed off about losing the debate from prime time, so they have to make up their ad revenue somehow. The error margin on this poll makes it specious.

Lena

Quote from: Designx on February 17, 2016, 10:11:11 PM
Well if I'm reading it right at the bottom the page of the article, the poll had 800 registered voters and 400 GOP primary voters.
Maybe they ask 800 people about the weather in China,
but if you look at the table they pulled the results from, it says 100 people: 54 male 46 female
https://www.scribd.com/doc/299591277/NBC-WSJ-February-Poll-GOP?secret_password=JnP82QeNxD9kHWxwZuHr
You don't know the tricks people can do with polls I think, and present them as more than they are, and shift the tables in their wanted outcome.
They interview 100 people each month, 8 times, is what they did.

albrecht

Quote from: Lena on February 17, 2016, 10:16:11 PM
Maybe they ask 800 people about the weather in China,
but if you look at the table they pulled the results from, it says 100 people: 54 male 46 female
https://www.scribd.com/doc/299591277/NBC-WSJ-February-Poll-GOP?secret_password=JnP82QeNxD9kHWxwZuHr
You don't know the tricks people can do with polls I think.
Nice. And the opting out, in general. Other than times when I've had a few, who answers their landline, strangers in public who ask you questions, or door knockers? Or even cell phone? And many don't even have landlines and block unknown callers on their various devices. Or, like me, give wrong answers, or true answers that really screw things up (I get my news from, according to last pollster: local pirate radio station, BBC-Africa (on SW,) WWCR, Alex Jones, and NPR. Good luck with those fake ratings (can't get much of them now or would wish to listen.) And gal didn't even know what SW was!

Lena

Quote from: 21st Century Man on February 17, 2016, 10:13:54 PM
As do I.  I will vote for Trump if he is the nominee but I will not support him in the primaries.
You support the fetuses man Rafael Cruz, or the homosexual Rubio, or the unstable autist Bush? No joke, Trump is the only who is not totally weird and compromised.

GravitySucks

Quote from: Lena on February 17, 2016, 10:16:11 PM
Maybe they ask 800 people about the weather in China,
but if you look at the table they pulled the results from, it says 100 people: 54 male 46 female
https://www.scribd.com/doc/299591277/NBC-WSJ-February-Poll-GOP?secret_password=JnP82QeNxD9kHWxwZuHr
You don't know the tricks people can do with polls I think, and present them as more than they are, and shift the tables in their wanted outcome.
They interview 100 people each month, 8 times, is what they did.

Are you one of this government disinformation agents we were warned about by Snowden?  Remember, you have to tell the thruth if asked a direct question.

Lena

Quote from: GravitySucks on February 17, 2016, 10:30:10 PM
Are you one of this government disinformation agents we were warned about by Snowden?  Remember, you have to tell the thruth if asked a direct question.
No, I work only for FSB.

Quote from: Lena on February 17, 2016, 10:29:45 PM
You support the fetuses man Rafael Cruz, or the homosexual Rubio, or the unstable autist Bush? No joke, Trump is the only who is not totally weird and compromised.


I would never support another Bush.  Too liberal. Rubio is better but for the gang of 8 bill.  Since when was he a fag?  Yeah, he has a high voice and maybe a tiny bit of a lisp but that does not make him a fag.  Proof, please.  As for Cruz, yep that is who I'm going to go with and so is my wife.  What do you mean about Rafael being a fetuses man?  Are you for abortion?  It is a non-issue for me.  Not on my priority list but it would be better if people were more responsible and had fewer abortions. Just my opinion.  I'm a constitutionalist and Trump is not.


Oh and Rubio is a liar too.

albrecht

Quote from: 21st Century Man on February 17, 2016, 10:35:54 PM

I would never support another Bush.  Too liberal. Rubio is better but for the gang of 8 bill.  Since when was he a fag?  Yeah, he has a high voice and maybe a tiny bit of a lisp but that does not make him a fag.  Proof, please.  As for Cruz, yep that is who I'm going to go with and so is my wife.  What do you mean about Rafael being a fetuses man?  Are you for abortion?  It is a non-issue for me.  Not on my priority list but it would be better if people were more responsible and had fewer abortions. Just my opinion.  I'm a constitutionalist and Trump is not.
Wayne Madsen, I think, is the source of the Rubio "fag" issue (if it even is an issue besides various far-left, far-right and conspiracy forums.) It is a stretch though from that one arrest to the full on and, as you mention, I'm not sure the electorate would really care. I'm more concerned with him about his immigration beliefs and some other things. But if you look it up there are some funny pictures (supposedly) and the arrest was, again from what I can see, legit but just for drinking beer etc as a kid. Not a big deal.
::) Though, not me, and maybe not others, but things like being a closet "fag" or even having a criminal history could actually be a bonus in the general.


Lena

Quote from: 21st Century Man on February 17, 2016, 10:35:54 PM

I would never support another Bush.  Too liberal. Rubio is better but for the gang of 8 bill.  Since when was he a fag?  Yeah, he has a high voice and maybe a tiny bit of a lisp but that does not make him a fag.  Proof, please.  As for Cruz, yep that is who I'm going to go with and so is my wife.  What do you mean about Rafael being a fetuses man?  Are you for abortion?  It is a non-issue for me.  Not on my priority list but it would be better if people were more responsible and had fewer abortions. Just my opinion.  I'm a constitutionalist and Trump is not.


Oh and Rubio is a liar too.

Rafael Cruz is a proven liar.
Also, if you have good human judgement, you can see he is disingenuous. That is what make him ugly, because he can't control all his face muscles correctly, they give away the lies and make him look so hideous.
He is the "fetuses man", because he tries to get Evangelical votes, and always talks about abortion.
Trump is pro-life too, but reasonable. Will you force your wife to carry a child when she got raped?
Nobody will ban abortion anway, not Cruz, not anybody.
Anyway, you should not support a proven liar who is bought by Goldman Sachs and Establishment.

Rubio is gay or bi-sexual. That is obvious.
He got arrested in a gay park, lived together with gay porn producer friend, danced in a gay dance group, looks gay...
What more proof do you need? Rubio admit on TV that he likes to get fisted?


Quote from: albrecht on February 17, 2016, 10:42:59 PM
Wayne Madsen, I think, is the source of the Rubio "fag" issue (if it even is an issue besides various far-left, far-right and conspiracy forums.) It is a stretch though from that one arrest to the full on and, as you mention, I'm not sure the electorate would really care. I'm more concerned with him about his immigration beliefs and some other things. But if you look it up there are some funny pictures (supposedly) and the arrest was, again from what I can see, legit but just for drinking beer etc as a kid. Not a big deal.
::) Though, not me, and maybe not others, but things like being a closet "fag" or even having a criminal history could actually be a bonus in the general.

Hmmm.  Now you have me curious.  I could really care less about sexuality as long as the man has constitutional  conservative principles.  What people do in their bedroom is their business.  I was against gay marriage as I believe in the biblical definition but since it has happened, I'm going to let it be though I wish such laws had been legislated by the proper legislators rather than imposed by the Supreme Court.  I've always been for civil unions as I think gay couples should have the same legal benefits as straight couples.

I don't think the Rubios have a lavender marriage like the Clintons (I know Bill isn't gay but Hillary apparently is).

Anyway, now I have to look up Wayne Madsen.

Quote from: Lena on February 17, 2016, 10:52:13 PM

Rafael Cruz is a proven liar.
Also, if you have good human judgement, you can see he is disingenuous. That is what make him ugly, because he can't control all his face muscles correctly, they give away the lies and make him look so hideous.
He is the "fetuses man", because he tries to get Evangelical votes, and always talks about abortion.
Trump is pro-life too, but reasonable. Will you force your wife to carry a child when she got raped?
Nobody will ban abortion anway, not Cruz, not anybody.
Anyway, you should not support a proven liar who is bought by Goldman Sachs and Establishment.

Wow, you sure sound scared of religious people.  Some people are passionate about abortion.  Maybe they have had experiences that make them that way.   Cruz is not a theocrat nor is he a pawn of Goldman Sachs.  That is crazy conspiracy garbage. Cruz is also about as anti-Establishment as you can get.  Moreso than Trump who will makes deals with the Demonrats.  Cruz will not.

Lena

Quote from: 21st Century Man on February 17, 2016, 10:58:48 PM
Wow, you sure sound scared of religious people.  Some people are passionate about abortion.  Maybe they have had experiences that make them that way.   Cruz is not a theocrat nor is he a pawn of Goldman Sachs.  That is crazy conspiracy garbage. Cruz is also about as anti-Establishment as you can get.  Moreso than Trump who will makes deals with the Demonrats.  Cruz will not.
Cruz is not anti-establishment at all.
His wife works for Goldman Sachs.
He got special credit from GS and "forgot" to declare it.
Cruz will not? Everybody make deals. Trump deals will end the retreat that Conservatives have had all the years.
Cruz is a FRAUD, you will hate yourself for supporting him, but he will not win anyway.

The more interesting question you did not answer:
Would you force your wife to carry a child from a rape?

I am not scared of religious people at all. I am more christian than Americans. You are all scammed by stupid evangelicals.

akwilly

I really don't like politics but I am bored and have a few minutes to kill. I tend to lean conservative but I will vote for whatever candidate talks the least about God, abortion or gay rights stuff. Not that those aren't important things it is just I personally don't care who is the most "religious" and I find that after the election all those issues take a back seat to "real life" problems.

albrecht

Quote from: 21st Century Man on February 17, 2016, 10:54:03 PM
Hmmm.  Now you have me curious.  I could really care less about sexuality as long as the man has constitutional  conservative principles.  What people do in their bedroom is their business.  I was against gay marriage as I believe in the biblical definition but since it has happened, I'm going to let it be though I wish such laws had been legislated by the proper legislators rather than imposed by the Supreme Court.  I've always been for civil unions as I think gay couples should have the same legal benefits as straight couples.

I don't think the Rubios have a lavender marriage like the Clintons (I know Bill isn't gay but Hillary apparently is).

Anyway, now I have to look up Wayne Madsen.
I don't really care but I'm against it all because anybody, can already set up agreements and legal stuff- if they wish and don't need to redefine language or common institutions! So the "marriage" is just another way to tear down normal, historical society, and gain lawyers and politicians money (on both sides.) Man, they would have you that any firm or small business must be not be 'gay' because they can have a contracts or survival stuff agreed upon! (Some companies, even many, even take out insurance on their "gay" partners.) The press makes it seems things like wills, living trusts, trusts, DNRs, etc are bizarre? Some "fag" won't get to see his "bride." I don't know but I'm sure that could be taken care of very easily in a declartion or even limited POA? And, frankly, I've never even been asked for proper ID or etc visiting a person in an ICU or hospital (and, actually, could've visited whatever room on the way there it would seem.) Whatever. Wayne Madsen is a character. He can find some good stuff. He is also, likely, crazy. Take him as you wish. Not as good as Jack Anderson, because a bit more suspect with sourcing, but can be interesting.

Quote from: Lena on February 17, 2016, 11:05:33 PM
Cruz is not anti-establishment at all.
His wife works for Goldman Sachs.
He got special credit from GS and "forgot" to declare it.
Cruz will not? Everybody make deals. Trump deals will end the retreat that Conservatives have had all the years.
Cruz is a FRAUD, you will hate yourself for supporting him, but he will not win anyway.

The more interesting question you did not answer:
Would you force your wife to carry a child from a rape?

I am not scared of religious people at all. I am more christian than Americans. You are all scammed by stupid evangelicals.

Of course not.  I would support her decision, no matter what.  I hate abortion but it is not really a political issue with me.

Lena

Nobody likes abortion.
I would ban it, except when the child will be strongly disabled, or wife got raped.

Quote from: Lena on February 17, 2016, 11:05:33 PM
Cruz is not anti-establishment at all.
His wife works for Goldman Sachs.
He got special credit from GS and "forgot" to declare it.
Cruz will not? Everybody make deals. Trump deals will end the retreat that Conservatives have had all the years.
Cruz is a FRAUD, you will hate yourself for supporting him, but he will not win anyway.

The more interesting question you did not answer:
Would you force your wife to carry a child from a rape?

I am not scared of religious people at all. I am more christian than Americans. You are all scammed by stupid evangelicals.

Tell me what has Cruz done, other than his wife working for GS, that is Establishment.  So what if he got credit with GS.  Many people do. Cruz fights with the Establishment every day on Capitol Hill.  Establishment RINO's hate him more than they hate Trump. That should tell you something.

Lena

Quote from: 21st Century Man on February 17, 2016, 11:14:06 PM
Tell me what has Cruz done, other than his wife working for GS, that is Establishment.  So what if he got credit with GS.  Many people do. Cruz fights with the Establishment every day on Capitol Hill.  Establishment RINO's hate him more than they hate Trump. That should tell you something.
The hate Cruz because he is an asshole, liar and nobody can trust him. Of course they don't hate Trump for that, because Trump has integrity.
But they hate Trump more secretly, because nobody can control him, he is too strong and not tainted. They can not blackmail him.
Cruz own daughter hates him, he beats his children.

Quote from: akwilly on February 17, 2016, 11:05:37 PM
I really don't like politics but I am bored and have a few minutes to kill. I tend to lean conservative but I will vote for whatever candidate talks the least about God, abortion or gay rights stuff. Not that those aren't important things it is just I personally don't care who is the most "religious" and I find that after the election all those issues take a back seat to "real life" problems.

LOL.  Those aren't my top 3 issues.  I just want our politicians to follow the Constitution like Scalia did. 

Is 136 around? Should I duck and cover?

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