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Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on March 30, 2017, 07:43:30 PM
I've watched it several times and she mentions nothing specific about the supposed Russian connections but does let it slip in her braggadocio that the Obama admin was illegally spying on the Trump team and unmasking and then leaking that classified info to the press. All of it illegal. Stupid bitch.  ::)

No she doesn't. You really should wash your ears out and cut down on imagination beans. Where does she say the Obama admin was illegally spying on the Trump team?

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on March 30, 2017, 07:46:42 PM
No she doesn't. You really should wash your ears out and cut down on imagination beans. Where does she say the Obama admin was illegally spying on the Trump team?

You're a fucking idiot! It's in the last 10 seconds or so. Anyway, have fun read this shill's posts. I'm out. Too busy making America great again to putz about with pud.  ;D

Meister_000

CNN senior political analyst David Gergen reacted to the report that General Michael Flynn has offered to testify in exchange for immunity by saying, “The clouds are darkening over the White House tonight.”   :D

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on March 30, 2017, 07:48:39 PM
You're a fucking idiot! It's in the last 10 seconds or so. Anyway, have fun read this shill's posts. I'm out. Too busy making America great again to putz about with pud.  ;D

"Get information to the Hill"? About Russian influence dipshit. Or are you okay with Russia running the show?  Fuck, you're going to look like you've sucked on a lemon when Flynn starts singing.

Meister_000

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on March 30, 2017, 07:48:39 PM
You're a fucking idiot! It's in the last 10 seconds or so. Anyway, have fun read this shill's posts. I'm out. Too busy making America great again to putz about with pud.  ;D

You're hallucinating, go to bed.

Yorkshire pud

Scott Pruit (not a scientist) is making it legal for a banned pesticide to be legal that real scientists say harms children and farm workers.

Looking after the people, the Trump way.

And a bloke called Karl Icahn that had Trump been in power would last year, would have saved $205 million. Icahn advised the sdmin to kill the regulation that last year was in place. Funny that.

Draining the swamp.

WOTR

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on March 30, 2017, 01:02:48 PM
Trump has to lash out at them to save face.
A good, stern "tweeting" ought to just about do it...

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on March 30, 2017, 07:02:01 PM
Hmm, but Flynn said anyone requesting it had committed a crime.

Well, Flynn isn't here for me to ask.  Since you posted it, I was asking you.  Let's try again:

Do you believe that requesting immunity to testify in a politically charged witch hunt is an admission of guilt - yes or no?

Since you tend not to answer, let me answer for you:  Yes, Pud believes this is the case when it's someone he's opposed to;  No, he doesn't believe this is the case when it's someone the Fake News Media tells him to side with.


Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on March 30, 2017, 07:25:32 PM
Oh? Name names. Incidental surveilance occurs if for example a Russian spy mentions Trump while being monitored.
And why would the WH be looking into FBI investigations?

Yes, but who has published the redacted names?

Oh her. The woman Spicer misquoted?

I haven't seen any Spicer comments on this - quotes or misquotes.  I heard her own comments two days ago where it was clear she was in the middle of it, and I heard her own comments today where she's trying to back away from any involvement.

As far as the ''incidental'' intel picked up on Trump - which was illegally passed all over the administration, then illegally leaked - if you're trying to deny that occurred, you're really not worth bothering with further on the topic.  You are eager to believe and spread the lies about Trump, but refuse to believe evidence that supports the claims he's made. 

The reason you haven't been triggered into posting about this the past couple weeks is because the outlets you trust have quietly let the matter drop, since they were wrong.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: WOTR on March 30, 2017, 08:29:24 PM
A good, stern "tweeting" ought to just about do it...

It triggered you snowflakes. Mission accomplished, as far as I'm concerned.  ;D

Meister_000

Senate Intelligence Committee Hearing
On Russian and the 2016 Elections (generally)

MARCH 30, 2017
Part One = morning session
approx 2:40 hrs long

Hearing Title: "Disinformation: A Primer in Russian Active Measures and Influence Campaigns".

Two panels (one morning, one afternoon) will provide a foundational understanding of Russian active measures and information operations campaigns:
- The First panel will examine the history and characteristics of those campaigns;
- the Second panel will examine the role and capabilities of cyber operations in support of these activities.

Expert Witnesses:

Panel One (morning)

Roy Godson
Professor of Government Emeritus at Georgetown University. From 1993-2015, he also served as President of the National Strategy Information Center.

Eugene Rumer
Director of Russia and Eurasia Program, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. He previously served as the National Intelligence Officer for Russia and Eurasia from 2010-2014.

Clint Watts
Senior Fellow, Foreign Policy Research Institute Program on National Security

Part One
[perma @ CSPAN]
https://www.c-span.org/video/?426227-1/senate-intelligence-panel-warned-russians-play-sides ]

Part One on Youtube
(morning session, approx 2 hrs 40,
bump to start at:
- 17min mark for Chair Opening + witness intros (their backgrounds)
- 34min mark, actual Testimony begins with Godson)


https://youtu.be/DBf7rEF-Iqo

WOTR

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on March 30, 2017, 09:00:32 PM
It triggered you snowflakes. Mission accomplished, as far as I'm concerned.  ;D
Triggered laughter and amusement?

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on March 30, 2017, 08:51:15 PM
I haven't seen any Spicer comments on this - quotes or misquotes.  I heard her own comments two days ago where it was clear she was in the middle of it, and I heard her own comments today where she's trying to back away from any involvement.

As far as the ''incidental'' intel picked up on Trump - which was illegally passed all over the administration, then illegally leaked - if you're trying to deny that occurred, you're really not worth bothering with further on the topic.  You are eager to believe and spread the lies about Trump, but refuse to believe evidence that supports the claims he's made. 

The reason you haven't been triggered into posting about this the past couple weeks is because the outlets you trust have quietly let the matter drop, since they were wrong.

Any leaking has been recently to Nunes by two WH staffers. One who was brought in by Flynn (who McMaster wanted out, but overuled by Trump) and one who worked for Nunes.

So which lies have been leaked?

Meister_000

Claude Taylor‏ @TrueFactsStated

Claude Taylor, who worked on three presidential campaigns and served on President Bill Clinton’s White House staff tweeted 3 hrs ago . . .

"An ind journalist I have worked with-who has been reliable-says they have 2 sources that say Trump is considering options-incl RESIGNATION.

https://twitter.com/TrueFactsStated/status/847600028940025858


Taaroa

Quote from: Meister_000 on March 30, 2017, 09:51:23 PM
Claude Taylor‏ @TrueFactsStated

Claude Taylor, who worked on three presidential campaigns and served on President Bill Clinton’s White House staff tweeted 3 hrs ago . . .

"An ind journalist I have worked with-who has been reliable-says they have 2 sources that say Trump is considering options-incl RESIGNATION.

Why would he resign?

Zetaspeak

Considering  the nepotism  that is going in the WH. Will he say ye's resigning  to spend LESS time with family ?

Quote from: Meister_000 on March 30, 2017, 09:51:23 PM
Claude Taylor‏ @TrueFactsStated

Claude Taylor, who worked on three presidential campaigns and served on President Bill Clinton’s White House staff tweeted 3 hrs ago . . .

"An ind journalist I have worked with-who has been reliable-says they have 2 sources that say Trump is considering options-incl RESIGNATION.

https://twitter.com/TrueFactsStated/status/847600028940025858

Wishful thinking.

Quote from: Zetaspeak on March 30, 2017, 11:03:44 PM
Considering  the nepotism  that is going in the WH. Will he say ye's resigning  to spend LESS time with family ?

Not the first time there was nepotism in the White House.  I seem to remember Bobby Kennedy was JFK's Attorney General.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: 21st Century Man on March 30, 2017, 11:04:00 PM
Wishful thinking.

It's coming...really. The proof is at hand...any day now...pud said so and it's only been...months.  :D

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on March 30, 2017, 11:06:45 PM
It's coming...really. The proof is at hand...any day now...pud said so and it's only been...months.  :D

That is the sort of baseless nonsense that draws me back to defending Trump. 

WOTR

Quote from: 21st Century Man on March 30, 2017, 11:09:03 PM
That is the sort of baseless nonsense that draws me back to defending Trump.
It's funny.  I kind of hope that it does not come down to that.  He has shaken things up a little- and that is not a bad thing, overall.

I dislike many of his policies and find him annoying as hell.  Just the same- I do kind of hope that he manages to reign himself in a little and actually leave a lasting legacy.  Drain the swamp  (rather than just appointing new Goldman Sachs employees as the lifeguards to watch over it), cut back to something sustainable (those unfunded liabilities are going to be the death of a nation), and have people who generally don't care about politics sit up and take notice of policies (at least he seems to be succeeding on this front.)

The problem is that I fear he may just be a narcissistic jackass who really is just in it for himself.  Right now, I feel like I am trying to decide if I dislike career politicians more, or reality television stars...

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on March 30, 2017, 09:29:12 PM
Any leaking has been recently to Nunes by two WH staffers. One who was brought in by Flynn (who McMaster wanted out, but overuled by Trump) and one who worked for Nunes...

I know you want everything to be about Trump being some sort of Russian stooge, and are stuck on that.  But Russian activity during our election is the basis for the Nunes hearing, not Trump.

As part of that, it turns out Trump was right about the Obama Administration spying on him.  Which is what Nunes went to the WH to discuss - who was spying on Trump, why it wasn't redacted and destroyed if it was ''incidental'' to an investigation, and why it was sent around to all 17 intel agencies and likely the Obama WH (the passing of the info being the leak, which is a felony). 

Perhaps you can tell us how someone discussing evidence of leaks and leakers with the Intelligence Committee chairman investigating the subject matter is itself ''the leak''?   


Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on March 30, 2017, 09:29:12 PM
... So which lies have been leaked?

You sure are all screwed up.  That sounds like the sort of disingenuous twisting of the facts in order to confuse garbage some Democrat hack would say to the pretend journalists.  This stuff is exactly why Nunes and the rest of the Rs shouldn't be sharing a single bit of information with them - it all ends up twisted beyond recognition in the next day's headlines.

The lie in this particular narrative is the claim by the Ds and the Fake Media that Trump wasn't being spied on by the Obama Administration, and that he made it all up.  You yourself spent a good deal of time helping them spread their lie, without a shred of actual evidence or information about it at all.  Now that's been debunked, aren't you supposed to quietly move on to the next Fake Accusation?

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: WOTR on March 30, 2017, 11:25:25 PM
he problem is that I fear he may just be a narcissistic jackass who really is just in it for himself.  Right now, I feel like I am trying to decide if I dislike career politicians more, or reality television stars...

Still preferable to Hillary.  ;)

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: 21st Century Man on March 30, 2017, 11:04:00 PM
Wishful thinking.

There's been a lot of that since inauguration day.

Zetaspeak

I don't  think Trump will resign, there is three reasons someone will resign
1 Shame, wanting out of the  spotlight - we all Trump has no shame
2 Protect the party  - Trump doesn't  give a damn about the party, only in it for himself
3 Stop ruining America image - again he doesn't  care about the country

He'll use the WH as a shield  and cower behind  his supporters  and keep saying "Ignore reality, I did nothing wrong"

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Zetaspeak on March 30, 2017, 11:49:40 PM
I don't  think Trump will resign, there is three reasons someone will resign
1 Shame, wanting out of the  spotlight - we all Trump has no shame
2 Protect the party  - Trump doesn't  give a damn about the party, only in it for himself
3 Stop ruining America image - again he doesn't  care about the country

He'll use the WH as a shield  and cower behind  his supporters  and keep saying "Ignore reality, I did nothing wrong"

Says the guy who was all too happy to indulge us in fake polls about a coming Hillary landslide during the election.  ;D

Meister_000

Quote from: Taaroa on March 30, 2017, 10:55:52 PM
Why would he resign?

Maybe because the shit is hitting the fan too fast? and maybe(? even) someone reminded him he has children who will have to bear the brunt of his infamy? He is good as cooked now (you do understand that, yes?).

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Meister_000 on March 30, 2017, 11:56:53 PM
Maybe because the shit is hitting the fan too fast? and maybe(? even) someone reminded him he has children who will have to bear the brunt of his infamy? He is good as cooked now (you do understand that, yes?).

Cooked how?! Show your work, damn it!  ::) >:(

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