Guns

[PB the Deplorable]

... While I see no compelling or persuasive evidence that Sandy Hook was anything more than a nut going nuts I balance that with the belief that if our governments, regardless of whether American, British, Chinese, Russian, or Iranian, if our governments required the brutal slaying of a thousand small children in order to effect policy that said government considered 'important' they wouldn't hesitate for one fucking second...

You mean like politicians supporting abortion in exchange for votes and campaign cash?  Even - or maybe especially - so-called Catholics like Pelosi, Cuomo, and a thousand others across the country?

[missing transmission]

Outed. Don't worry, it's cool, I don't judge, and I'm not going to shoot you... with bullets.

Heh

I do look a bit like that  but with worse teeth and even poorer dress sense...
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In all seriousness though do think my fears/phobia of people with guns is unfounded?

[Yorkshire pud]

Heh

I do look a bit like that  but with worse teeth and even poorer dress sense...
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In all seriousness though do think my fears/phobia of people with guns is unfounded?

You know what Broadmoor is don't you? It's said that 50% of the patients could be released with absolutely no harm to the public ensuing..

The problem is knowing which 50%.

[missing transmission]

You know what Broadmoor is don't you? It's said that 50% of the patients could be released with absolutely no harm to the public ensuing..

The problem is knowing which 50%.

Well given this meeting took place in Broadmoor.... 



(that's Peter Sutcliffe, Jimmy Savile and Frank Bruno )

[Jackstar]

In all seriousness though do think my fears/phobia of people with guns is unfounded?

The line between concern and worry can be a very fine one. If it is just guns and gun violence that you are fearful of, I would think that largely normal--perhaps socially retarded, but if it doesn't get in the way, there's no harm!

If one can think of at least 3-5 things nearly immediately in response to the question, "so, what do you find yourself worrying about?", I would think that such a one ought to be screened by a mental health professional. What's the harm? They have needles, not bullets.

Mild, generalized anxiety can manifest itself in many forms, and psychology and psychopharmacology have come a long way in the last twenty years, to say nothing of the growing awareness of the effect of nutrition on cognition. If one is afraid of guns, and one is not presently being shot at, I gotta wonder... why so serious?

[VtaGeezer]

You mean like politicians who would circumvent the Constitution over abortion in exchange for votes and campaign cash?  Even - or maybe especially - so-called Catholics like Pelosi, Cuomo, and a thousand others across the country?

You mean like politicians circumventing the Constitution to ban all abortions...and who support full "personhood" for a fertilized egg...in exchange for campaign cash and PAC support?  And you're also complaining that Catholics in office should follow the Pope and not the Constitution in legislating for all?  How's that work?

[Jackstar]

some families want the information shown so people don't wrap this up neatly into some package (like you're doing)

Much like not seeing this part of your comment earlier... I don't see myself doing that.

[missing transmission]

If one is afraid of guns, and one is not presently being shot at, I gotta wonder... why so serious?

Fair point ... I don't wander about in constant fear of guns... but might do if I was in the USA.

In the UK if I meet someone who's *really into guns and weapons* I'd make a point of keeping away from them... just to be on the safe side.

[Jackstar]

In the UK if I meet someone who's *really into guns and weapons* I'd make a point of keeping away from them... just to be on the safe side.

That seems completely reasonable to me. You're on a medium-small island that's had guns banned since Hector was a pup: anyone still living there who can afford to acquire, keep, and maintain firearms could also... afford to move. So if they stick around, and flaunt their "hobby..."

Well, you know me, I don't judge. But it sounds a bit like the fox moving into the henhouse, and first thing he says, he goes, "I don't like how this door swings outward. Can we change that? Thanks."

[Kelt]

I may have had a couple of JD& Cokes, and a couple of ROJOs, and some other assorted alcoholic beverages tonight, but I'm still compos mentis enough to know that you don't listen to the Pope when it comes to ANY sort of 'How To Live Your Life' advice.

I'm not dogging the Pope because he's an old tranny in a big hat, nor because he's the head of the largest paedophile ring in recorded history, nor because I'm an atheist and as such all dictats from beasts in religious paraphernalia scare the shite out of me... wait....

...yes I am.

[VtaGeezer]

Six murdered in Isla Vista CA by a well-armed sociopath taking revenge on society for, and this is no stretch, not getting laid.  All's well in America.

[Jackstar]

During the midnight, a troop consisting of ten thousand armed law enforcing members started their operation. Before that they shut down the electricity and drove all the journalists away from the area. They shut down the live telecast in the evening. The armed forces started their operation by giving a warning to the protesters to leave the area, but the unarmed protesters didnt want to leave that area, believing they will not do any harm to them as their protest had been very peaceful. But the armed forces started killing them. They started open firing on them without any prior provocation. The unarmed protesters had nothing in their hands to defend themselves against the brutal gunfire. Thousands were killed within a short period of time and the police abducted the dead bodies and threw them on the garbage trucks from Dhaka City Corporation. Thousands were killed and the protesters were panicked. Most of them hid themselves in different places on the streets and the law enforcing members found them and shot them to death. The whole operation went for hours and all the bodies were taken by them to dump them somewhere.

Six murdered in Isla Vista CA by a well-armed sociopath taking revenge on society for not getting laid.  Another day in America.  God bless Wayne La Pierre for doing his best to keep the heritage alive.

Wow. Six whole humans? That's a lot. By the way, are you even aware that your entire point of view appears to be a knee-jerk, reactionary, ignorant joke? Also, it was really classy earlier how you just glossed over the whole 3.1 million starving children vs. 35,000 gun deaths thing, and then moved right on into a mere six dead. Oh, the huge manatee.

[Kelt]

Bunch of people shot in Belgium too.... another day in the EU?

Mind you, I've been in Belgium, I think it's just about boring enough to go on a killing spree after a couple of years of people mistaking you for French, a football team on the decline, and the screaming fucking winds that belt in off the North Sea.

I'm not so sure the Jews are to blame for any of that, though.... seems like slightly misplaced anger.

[Jackstar]

Mid [sic] you, I've been in Belgium,

Oi vey. 2006, I took a train in, got off, walked around the train station building for ten minutes, immediately got on the next train leaving the country. Holy shit.

[Kelt]

Driving through Europe, destination Amsterdam for drugs, hookers, and a week of getting stupid fucked up, stopped in a Belgian town... what do do?

Bought some gas and chocolate...

Holy shit doesn't even describe that place.  It's like driving through Kentucky without the thrill of potential Hillbilly Rape to alleviate the boredom.

EDIT: Funny aside, we're in a sex shop in Amsterdam, my mate (who happens to be a gigantic homophobe) is poking his fingers into this hole in a big, round piece of peach coloured latex.  We're trying to figure out what the hell it is, and the assistant leans over the counter and says in perfect English, "Rubber asshole"

I tried telling my mate that it could just as easily be a female prosthetic arsehole as a male prosthetic arsehole, but he was having none of it.  He was scarred for life, and to this day is fearful of jamming his finger in any hole without a full and comprehensive explanation of what that hole is.

[VtaGeezer]

Wow. Six whole humans? That's a lot. By the way, are you even aware that your entire point of view appears to be a knee-jerk, reactionary, ignorant joke? Also, it was really classy earlier how you just glossed over the whole 3.1 million starving children vs. 35,000 gun deaths thing, and then moved right on into a mere six dead. Oh, the huge manatee.

Yep. six whole human beings...seven including the horny killer.  Sad they're insignificant to you but another excuse to be snarky and demonstrate that you're so very above it all.  I'm not.  I used to lived down the road from IV, had clients there, my daughter went to UCSB.  I know the corner where some were shot. 

BTW, your CNN story about "thousands killed" wasn't. iCNN is more of a message board.  The piece was an unvetted submittal, and left alone by CNN because it was fabricated. Less emotional sources, like Human Rights Watch, reported about 30 were killed in that Dhaka demonstration.  But what the hell, that's an insignificant number, eh?

[Jackstar]

Sad they're insignificant to you

They are not insignificant. It is your opinion, that appears to be.

about 30 were killed in that Dhaka demonstration.

I accept your apology, Apologist.

[snip stuff about Belgium and Amsterdam]

Amsterdam was just fine! I grew up in a port city, and there's nothing like a regular influx of sailors to jade the neighborhood kids.

The train station in Belgium I passed through was in Antwerp, though. Which is like, the capital. More like capital punishment, amirite?

[onan]

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Make of it what you will.

[Jackstar]

Make of it what you will.

It is your opinion, that appears to be has been demonstrably shown to be knee-jerk, reactionary humbug.

Aye, aye!

[Kelt]

Amsterdam was just fine! I grew up in a port city, and there's nothing like a regular influx of sailors to jade the neighborhood kids.

The train station in Belgium I passed through was in Antwerp, though. Which is like, the capital. More like capital punishment, amirite?

Well, yeah, Amsterdam's great... it's also not in Belgium, which is an important fact to remember.

Club Brugge is about the only reason you might want to spend 90 minutes max in Belgium.

The Dutch are big drinkers, though. Always up for some pavement dancing.

[Quick Karl]

EDIT: Funny aside, we're in a sex shop in Amsterdam, my mate (who happens to be a gigantic homophobe) is poking his fingers into this hole in a big, round piece of peach coloured latex.  We're trying to figure out what the hell it is, and the assistant leans over the counter and says in perfect English, "Rubber asshole"

I am sorry but, it's 10:47 PM here and, the neighbors a mile away heard me laughing at that one!

[NowhereInTime]

I'm only posting because I resent seeing Qunt Karl's name leading any thread.  Childish, I know,  but I'm in a bad mood and don't care tonight.

[onan]

I bet this is another false flag:

One dead, three wounded in shooting at Seattle Pacific University

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/four-shot-one-dead-seattle-college

[Jackstar]

Oooh, I remember this thread! A week ago seems so far away!

Anyway, as I live in Seattle, you might think I have something to say, but actually, no. I thought the story was funny, when it looked like a lover's spat--six wounded, two shooters--but now it's one dead, and who cares: someone died.

If it were government, there'd be a drone strike and CNN would have had graphics pre-loaded, and if it were Hadji, they'd know how to kill more than one target. Soooo... not much to say, AS YET. Give it time, kids, give it time: light clairvoyancy is on my list of superpowers. Fukushima has been kind to the West Coast.

There -was- a guy on a street corner eating his own semen, though, so there's that.

[Quick Karl]

You just CAN'T give any liberal, a gun.

It should be as obvious as daylight, they cannot handle guns responsibly.

[Quick Karl]

There -was- a guy on a street corner eating his own semen, though, so there's that.

I lived 2-blocks from Harbor View Hospital in 1991 - yes, right next to the projects, on Terry Ave (Google Maps looks like those "projects" are long gone), and it is surprising to learn from your comments that things have become so much more civilized since then...

[Yorkshire pud]

You just CAN'T give any liberal, a gun.

It should be as obvious as daylight, they cannot handle guns responsibly.

[Stellar]

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Onan if this is your credit card please stay on your tranquilizers.

Make of it what you will.

[Quick Karl]

How dare you depart from the Party Line or use a graphic to demonstrate the absurdity of a baseless claim.

How can you BE so heartless?

[West of the Rockies]

Speaking of baseless (perhaps just a tongue-in-cheek) claim, Karl, this liberal can handle guns safely and effectively.  In my years in law enforcement, I encountered probably 1,200 firearms, everything from home-made (and scary-flimsy) pen guns to an attaché case gun that fired with a trigger in the handle (professionally-made).  I taught my daughter to shoot at eleven.  She can use a crossbow and various martial arts weapons, too... Proud papa moment:  she tests for her intermediate black belt in Kung Fu this summer. 

I believe we should all know how to safely operate all types of weapons (especially in a world where one out of four females are sexually assaulted).  Maybe it's the Heinlein fan in me.  I also believe in reasonable restrictions, too.