Started by Caruthers612, July 01, 2010, 11:34:40 PM
Quote from: Mordred478 on July 01, 2010, 11:34:40 PM ...if there are any left. I am soliciting recommendations for locales which are beautiful, rural, have plenty of hot chicks willing to do deep knee bends for a dollar, and where a man can own AND CARRY a gun.M
Quote from: coaster on December 26, 2012, 12:56:56 AMYou don't have to agree with his opinions, but they are just as relevant as yours are. Read up on the whole "free speech" thing.
Quote from: SR-71 on December 26, 2012, 01:03:09 AMFreedom of speech is NOT free. He should lose his job but that is my opinion.
Quote from: coaster on December 26, 2012, 01:11:01 AMThe irony.
Quote from: coaster on December 26, 2012, 02:45:57 AMI really don't see how Morgan giving his opinions (which were influenced by several recent shootings) has anything to do with some leftist conspiracy. I think its just one man's opinions. Not really that big a deal. And fyi, I don't like the idea of gun control. But hes got a right to say what he thinks.
Quote from: Paper*Boy on December 26, 2012, 02:28:04 AMWhen the Left finally seizes power permanently - and they will if we keep on electing people like Obama - they will not honor and uphold our freedoms. They are trying to undermine them now.
QuoteI will not be denied my right to buy what I want. If the gov't decides otherwise, looks like I'll be placing my order sooner rather than later, and buying bulk ammunition (maybe a few thousand rounds).
Quote from: Paper*Boy on December 26, 2012, 03:22:16 AM I do a bit of traveling and I wouldn't consider interfering in the politics of those places. Or criticizing the way they do things. That's isn't what polite visitors do. As far as I'm conerned, he has the right to say what he wants, and we as a country have the right to send him home. He should wait until he gets home to criticize us. I can't tell you how tired I am of people coming here because our country offers more freedom and opportunity than theirs, then have them act like they know what's best for us, and tell us at every opportunity. Sometimes they're 'offended'. Sometimes they're 'uncomfortable'. Sometimes, like this prick, they are just smarter and know better than us. Where's he from, England? If they are so much more sophisticated and advanced than we are, he really would be better off there instead of suffering in some backwards country like the US. Our rights of speech, to our own property, to defend ourselves, all the rest of them, go together as a package. Take away one and the rest follow. They are being destroyed a little at a time now, and we are less free as a result. And he's doing his part with that. Nearly all the 'journalists' are. Getting rid of just one POS at a time is at least a step in the right direction, but we really should be working on removing people with his views from office.
Quote from: Yorkshire pud on December 26, 2012, 04:57:48 AM... Some have suggested that schools have armed guards and that even teachers and other staff have bullet proof jackets or are in fact armed! And these people are being serious!...
Quote from: Yorkshire pud on December 26, 2012, 04:57:48 AM... Who are they to be? Someone who owns a rifle presumably...who vets them? Who vets the assessors? Are the guards drawn from the military and police? Or as is likely, those with little intelligence and aptitude who were not selected when they applied for the military or police? And how do you ensure they're not drawn from the 14% of the population who are essentially illiterate; have no mental illness or potential mental illness? So, we have our guards in the school, all set up and ready to 'guard'. Are they to stand on guard with weapons openly visible? Is that what you want your kids to see each day? That they live in a country that enjoys such 'freedom', it can't trust it's own population? And each day they hear the reporting of battles in far off countries that they'll never see or even find on a world map, where men carry weapons as a matter of course, but they're being persuaded to disarm, because it's a bad thing, and not something a 'civilised' society should be doing...
Quote from: Paper*Boy on December 26, 2012, 05:31:04 AM The school where Obama sends his kids has 11 armed guards. That's for the kids in general. The Obama kids also have their own Secret Service body guards. Obama himself and many of the influential rich Democrat Senators, office holders, entertainers, etc also go around with armed badyguards. Even, for instance, some of the stores selling Apple products have armed guards. Somehow none of that is 'stupid', 'insane', 'too expensive', 'NRA backed nonsense', or any of the other terms routinely used.
Quote Just this past week alone in China one guy killed a bunch of school kids with a butcher knife, and another one ran a bunch more down with his car. It isn't the 'gun'.
QuoteAnd by the way, when the Libs finally ban all guns can they please also un-invent them too. Otherwise, well you know, just the criminals will have them.
Quote from: Yorkshire pud on December 26, 2012, 04:57:48 AM... One last point: I read it often that Obama is left wing...erm, no he isn't...he really isn't. He's far more right wing than any UK Prime Minister that has ever been. And some think our current one is a right wing twat. The problem in the USA is you have a political landscape that is essentailly a race to the right, and any deviation is seen as being 'liberal'..And you don't even have a definition of that, that you can agree on! Maybe you need a new centre ground 'Liberal fascism'?
Quote from: Paper*Boy on December 26, 2012, 05:41:18 AM Just like US pilots, teachers would be allowed to go through a training program and have a gun locked up but accessable.
QuoteI think the thing aboutguns people don't get is they are a fantastic deterrent. People that suspect a person with a gun and willing to use it is around don't go there in the first place.
Quote It should be quite clear to everyone that the places these events happen are places where the criminal pretty much knows there are no other gns around. Just the idea a teacher may have one would be deterrent enough.
QuoteAs far as kids go, I don't think it's too hard to distinguish betwen a good person with a gun and a bad person with a gun. Kids aren't fools.
Quote from: Paper*Boy on December 26, 2012, 05:51:01 AM Can you expound of Obama being 'right-wing'? I get that nearly all major parties in Western Europe are more Liberal than our Democrat Party here, but come on. Let me state that to me Conservative and 'Right-wng' mean a small minimal government, and the opposite is Statism (with the many branches including Socialists, Liberals, the various types of Maxrists, Fascists, etc). It's not full blown Socialism vs Socialism-lite here like it is in Wesern Europe, your attempt to smear the non-Socialists not-with-standing. So why do you think Obama is 'right-wing'?
Quote from: Yorkshire pud on December 26, 2012, 05:48:42 AM...Indeed; imagine how many more people they could have killed and injured with a semi automatic weapon... Only in America and certain ex Soviet states is liberal used as in insult! I know guns can't be un-invented, but that isn't the issue; it's the mindset that has it that guns are a good thing and will by a miracle not yet fulfilled, stop crime! The point about UK and US deaths and our relative population I see hasn't been addressed, nor the question about where tre tipping point might be, when it's unacceptable.
Quote from: Yorkshire pud on December 26, 2012, 04:57:48 AMOne last point: I read it often that Obama is left wing...erm, no he isn't...he really isn't. He's far more right wing than any UK Prime Minister that has ever been. And some think our current one is a right wing twat. The problem in the USA is you have a political landscape that is essentailly a race to the right, and any deviation is seen as being 'liberal'..And you don't even have a definition of that, that you can agree on! Maybe you need a new centre ground 'Liberal fascism'? ...Only in America and certain ex Soviet states is liberal used as in insult!
Quote from: Yorkshire pud on December 26, 2012, 06:15:57 AMI'll answer your question by saying that here in the UK we have very strict controls over financing the various political parties by various donors. The donors naturally are not entirely altruistic, and by and large major sources of finance. In the US, you have massive on an obscene scale of political lobbying, backed by the paymasters..Almost all major capitalists in their own right. If we had that here, we'd have a revolution! Obama has (like all the other major players) bought into the same ethos that money can buy anything; even principles.Politically, Cameron (Our Prime Minister) is so out of touch with the general population it's unreal, yet he wouldn't dare go near anything any American political party thinks is acceptable; such as accepting that poor people live in cars, that you have population who don't have a right to healthcare from cradle to grave. You can't even think of being a politician of any stature in the US unless you intersperse 'God' in anything to do with how you'll run the country; so a capable atheist has no chance! Religion is and always has been the greatest methood of controlling the masses by politicians in all societies..yet your society embraces it! France might be seen as left wing by some (and to a point it is), but they're also secular, and wouldn't dream of having a ticket where God put them there.
Quote from: Paper*Boy on December 26, 2012, 06:26:28 AM...None of it makes Obama a right-winger though.
Quote from: stevesh on December 26, 2012, 06:52:09 AMI had heard of Piers Morgan, of course. when he took over for Larry King, but I had never seen or heard him before a few days ago when I watched a clip of him 'interviewing' Larry Pratt, president of Gun Owners of America... Mental illness, I'm thinking.