Started by Rix Gins, January 01, 2016, 08:20:14 PM
Quote from: GravitySucks on January 07, 2016, 07:05:32 PMFalkie?
Quote from: Walks_At_Night on January 07, 2016, 07:32:50 PMI have been trying to avoid this thread because I'm already involved in another history forum but I can't resist any longer. How does this work? 100 years ago today or just 1916 in general?
Quote from: Rix Gins on January 01, 2016, 08:20:14 PMThought it would be fun to start a thread covering what was going on 100 years ago. Fellow BellGab history buffs, feel free to add to this thread, anything that applies to 1916.
Quote from: ShayP on January 07, 2016, 07:40:17 PM1916 in general.
Quote from: trostol on January 07, 2016, 07:43:15 PMhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallipoli_Campaign
Quote from: Rix Gins on January 07, 2016, 07:59:46 PMHave always been fascinated with the Gallipoli Campaign. I have a number of books on the subject and yet I still have a hard time understanding exactly what was going on. The Turks won, that I know for sure. Definitely wasn't a picnic for either side.
Quote from: Walks_At_Night on January 07, 2016, 07:46:22 PMJeez - I can't read. Imagine my embarrassment. My other history forum has a sticky thread by the moderator called "Threatening Violence and or Death is unacceptable" and it's like 12 pages long. This might be a safer place to hang out!
Quote from: albrecht on January 07, 2016, 08:12:34 PMWhat is amazing, to me, is how many loyal Indians (and others called "Indians" at the time) fought for the Brits in WWI (and WWII later.) At the time of the beginning of WWI India though a colony had the world's largest volunteer army. They fought in multiple theaters including in their region, Mesopotamia (nearly 700,000 served there,) the Mediterranean, and in Europe- initially there spectacularly ill-equipped. Everyone remembers the Gurkhas (because they still fight now,) over 100,000 Gurkhas served in WWI with two Victoria Crosses.http://www.mgtrust.org/ind1.htmhttp://www.victoriacross.org.uk/ccww1ina.htmLook at this guy after the surrender in the Siege of Kut! Britain's worst surrender, or one of them.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Indian_army_soldier_after_siege_of_Kut.jpg"The author Norman Dixon, in his book "On the Psychology of Military Incompetence", described Townshend** as being 'amused' by the plight of the men he had deserted, as if he had pulled off some clever trick. Dixon says Townshend was unable to understand why his friends and comrades were ultimately censorious over his behaviour"** http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Vere_Ferrers_Townshend
Quote from: Walks_At_Night on January 07, 2016, 08:19:32 PMOh yes. Plus the British hired well over 100,000 Chinese to help dig trenches, move supplies and the like:http://multimedia.scmp.com/ww1-china/ Not to mention the Canadians, Australians and New Zealanders that fought as well.Also the French had many Africans and even Vietnamese that fought in their army. Very discouraging for the Germans.If this interests you there is a two part documentary on Netflix that covers this very subject
Quote from: albrecht on January 07, 2016, 08:30:06 PMWhat is the name? Thanks
Quote from: Walks_At_Night on January 07, 2016, 08:38:09 PMKnew that was coming Was buying time to look it up. It is called "The World's War: Forgotten Soldiers of Empire" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3967920/It is well worth watching - at least I thought so. Mrs. Walks_At_Night punched out after about 3 minutes. Of course she thinks I'm a nut job for liking this stuff. It is mostly Entente focused but they do give a brief shout out to Paul von Lettow-Vorbeck and his Askari's that raised holy hell in East Africa.
Quote from: K_Dubb on January 08, 2016, 02:17:52 PMSeattle's Coliseum Theater, one of the first in the country designed for movies and described as "the first of the world's movie palaces", opened a hundred years ago today. It featured a splendid organ and an 8-man "orchestra" of Russian emigres. These latter were, according to the program, "the highest salaried group of musicians in the States (which means the world as all Europe is at war)." Here it is in 1930s lights:
Quote from: Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost on January 08, 2016, 02:29:17 PMThat's a beautiful building indeed! Funny that it was showing Bulldog Drummond when the picture was taken, because I caught a little bit of it on TCM last night. Of course, there are no coincidences, but sometimes it seems like there are.
Quote from: Rix Gins on January 08, 2016, 06:01:15 AM Edit: I erred in pronouncing Bezdec as being a member of the chewing tobacco club. I searched out the year book, (Oregana 1917) and read that it was actually Coach Hayward who was listed as being a "Fratres in Facultate" member of the "Independent Order of the Chawers of the Honest Scrap." But that's cool. Makes me admire the man even more.
Quote from: K_Dubb on January 08, 2016, 02:38:38 PMThanks, Rix! "Chawers of the Honest Scrap" is a jewel! Almost want to take up the practice.It's a little disorienting to see people of that era in athletic dress since it looks like they're posing in their skivvies. I wonder how they must have seemed to their peers.
Quote from: K_Dubb on January 08, 2016, 02:38:38 PM"Chawers of the Honest Scrap" is a jewel!
Quote from: Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost on January 08, 2016, 02:48:48 PMYeah, that one's a real sockdolager! The language has lost a lot in the way of character and colorful expression in the last hundred years. I really enjoy the bombastic and often lurid descriptive language newspaper writers used in the early 20th Century, and today's reporting is as bland as cold dishwater by comparison.
Quote from: K_Dubb on January 08, 2016, 02:17:52 PMSeattle's Coliseum Theater, one of the first in the country designed for movies and described as "the first of the world's movie palaces", opened a hundred years ago today. It featured a splendid organ and an 8-man "orchestra" of Russian emigres. These latter were, according to the program, "the highest salaried group of musicians in the States (which means the world as all Europe is at war)." Here it is in 1930s lights:Here is the program from the opening:http://www.seattletheaterhistory.org/multi-page-program-record/coliseum-theatre-program-january-8-1916Anita King appeared at the opening, so the "Emporium" theater (which I got from Vanity Fair) must have been an error.The beautiful facade of the building survives, with great Grecian urns and terra-cotta cartouches I loved as a kid hanging above the sidewalk, but it is now a Banana Republic. If you never lifted your eyes from the window displays when walking along the street, you'd never notice it was there -- it blends seamlessly into Seattle's downtown-shopping area.One pair (actually a trio, since it was a classic love triangle) of my great-grandparents met working in a movie theater about this time, though in Hamilton, Ontario. The men worked in the projection booth; she was on the cleaning crew.
Quote from: Rix Gins on January 08, 2016, 03:01:25 PMYou hit the nail right on the head, Robert. I often think that while reading obituaries from the past. They were full of flourished expressions and emotions for the departed person and made you think that they really did have a life back then. Not like today's obits where they are often reduced to just a few lines of info.
Quote from: albrecht on January 08, 2016, 03:01:08 PMThey build stuff so cool back then. There also was some big money in the NW and Inland Empire in timber, mining, RRs, etc and lots of those guys built some great stuff. On the other side of the mountains around this time a 100 years ago, or so, Spokane's remarkable Davenport Hotel opened. It is now restored and still opulent. First hotel in the USA with air-conditioning (!), fancy ballroom, build-in vacuum system, fancy dining (the largest private commission ever created by Reed and Barton in silverware,) linens made in Ireland, and not a single worker died in all of its construction (for the time a crazy statistic.) In Spokane! (Those in the NW will understand that comment.) The downtown of Spokane was heated centrally by a steam plant (now defunct and turned into a restaurant I recall.)If anyone drives through or visits Spokane I suggest stopping there for a drink or meal, if not to stay. http://www.davenporthotelcollection.com/our-hotels/the-historic-davenport-hotel/history/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Davenport_Hotel_%28Spokane,_Washington%29I don't understand why some of these ideas didn't expand: good designs to last (though the Davenport for a time went through tough times when economy went south and had to be restored) but stuff like central steam heating for downtowns, central vacuum, streetcars, etc?
Quote from: albrecht on January 08, 2016, 03:13:10 PMAlso, interesting, back then you could go to law school without an undergrad degree. My granddad got his JD before a BA. Weird.
Quote from: GravitySucks on January 08, 2016, 03:20:46 PMI've seen it postulated, but don't remember seeing an answer. Is Peter Davenport a descendant of this family, and is this where he gets the money to live in a missile silo and answer the phones for all of the UFO sightings?