Started by Rix Gins, January 01, 2016, 08:20:14 PM
Quote from: K_Dubb on January 03, 2016, 04:22:51 PMHey Rix you got an endorsement from coaster! I'd fall off my chair but for all the pillows.
Quote from: Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost on January 03, 2016, 01:58:57 PMAs the visual aid clearly indicates, we know "Surprisingly little" about the sinking of the Titanic, and "Almost everything else is conjecture," so here are a couple of sources to check out for the alleged Jack Johnson connection. While similar, they disagree on some key details, but according to the conditions stipulated by Mr. Hamer, their version of events cannot be lightly dismissed.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9PwIcpyv9Q
Quote from: Rix Gins on January 03, 2016, 05:43:08 PMLol Typical Lead Belly. I can comprehend everything that he sings in this song except for the "meat and potato's" lyrics at the very end. "When he huddled by that muddy shop,might have seen a man on The Eagle Rock." ?
Quote from: Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost on January 03, 2016, 06:05:02 PMThe line probably is, "a man doin' The Eagle Rock," which was a popular dance in the early twentieth century. Jamie Brockett's version (loosely based on Leadbelly's) asserts that when Jack Johnson learned of the sinking, he did indeed do the Eagle Rock all up and down the pier.I've also read that Johnson supposedly predicted the Titanic would go down after he was refused passage, but then I've also read that he was actually in the U.S. at the time and never had anything to do with the ship. I guess we really do know "surprisingly little" about it!
Quote from: Rix Gins on January 03, 2016, 08:12:13 PMWell thankee there, Robert. You gave my a real "well I learned something new today" moment. You are right, The Eagle Rock was indeed a dance that was popular way back when. It used to have a hop to it but over time it was replaced with a shuffle. http://streetswing.com/histmain/z3eaglerock1.htm
Quote from: Rix Gins on January 03, 2016, 08:49:43 PMAnother advert. Guess it only got 11 to 12 mpg. Not too good. lol
Quote from: Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost on January 03, 2016, 09:17:42 PMEspecially since gas stations were probably few and far between outside the big cities.They certainly had an unconventional marketing campaign! "We had to raise the price, but we're confident you won't mind paying more for the quality we offer." For $2950, that better have been one "remarkable motor car," because that was probably higher than a lot of people's annual income in 1916. Now I'm curious about what different occupations paid back then and might have to look into that.
Quote from: K_Dubb on January 03, 2016, 09:45:18 PMYeah I laughed at that, too. I like to think this is pre-ad-agency writing by the good, honest folks who actually made the thing. More likely it's an early effort at prestige marketing, though.
Quote from: Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost on January 04, 2016, 12:31:22 AMMaybe it's a little of both. The ad copy does sound like the company is committed to providing a quality product and sincerely regrets having to raise prices to maintain its high standards, while also strongly implying that a discerning clientele such as theirs will just accept it in stride even if they might bitch a little about it. I didn't have much luck finding information about average individual annual incomes in 1916, but Babe Ruth made $3500 in his second full year in the major leagues (as a pitcher who won 18 games, led the AL in ERA, starts, and shutouts, and hit four home runs). At the top end of the MLB pay scale, veteran superstar Ty Cobb's salary was $20,000. That means it's a good bet that your typical ribbon clerks, icemen, elevator operators, and hotel house dicks didn't make anywhere close to that, so they could probably manage a decent, if drab, lower-middle class lifestyle but could only dream of owning a Marmon 34.
Quote from: K_Dubb on January 04, 2016, 12:43:44 AMThanks, that's good info! With the Model T going for under $500 I was sure it was a fancy car.
Quote from: Sean92008 on January 04, 2016, 02:05:33 AMBelieve it or not, there's a Marmon still in existence... And, yes, they probably earned that hefty price tag https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marmon_Motor_Car_Company
QuoteThe 1916 Model 34 used an aluminum straight-6, and used aluminum in the body and chassis to reduce overall weight to just 3295 lb (1495 kg).
Quote from: Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost on January 03, 2016, 01:58:57 PMAs the visual aid clearly indicates, we know "Surprisingly little" about the sinking of the Titanic, and "Almost everything else is conjecture,"
Quote from: Jackstar on January 04, 2016, 04:34:59 AMHere's a few facts that we know for sure: Someone gave James Cameron over a billion fucking dollars to make that stupid fucking movie
Quote from: Rix Gins on January 04, 2016, 03:37:26 PMAn important, three day meeting was being held by the Coca Cola Company one hundred years ago. It appears that the convention was being held for the purpose of selecting a glass maker's design for a more familiar type of bottle. Earlier Coke bottles were smooth sided.
Quote from: K_Dubb on January 04, 2016, 03:50:12 PMNice little vignette! They had a barbecue and were addressed by a judge, who I imagine as Foghorn Leghorn. Did not suspect that corporate boondoggles have such a long history.
Quote from: coaster on January 04, 2016, 04:04:41 PMI was googling for that last night and couldn't find much. However I did find some info from a Missouri handbook that priced and compared various foods and supplies from Missouri in 1916. Thought that was vaguely interesting.
Quote from: Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost on January 04, 2016, 04:18:48 PMI was surprised the individual wage and income info isn't readily available. Do you have a link to that Missouri handbook? Thanks!