20150819 - Bill Birnes and Jim Sanders - Live Chat Thread

[RoseGirl]

So why would they shoot it down?

[maren]

Fucking stoner.

That's what she said.

[chefist]

Fucking stoner.

LOL...when I want to expand my mind...you are my go to, Aldous! 

[QuantumMystics]

[maren]

So why would they shoot it down?

Accident.  Oops.

[trostol]

So why would they shoot it down?

good question

[nbirnes]

wise on so many levels.. 

That's what I should have said.

[SciFiAuthor]

Why is this camera pointing and seems to be filmed by a person, filming this area of empty sky for over 26 minutes? Are those mutiple "missiles launches" where are they coming from, sea of shore? I have seen anti aircraft missiles, SAM's being fired and they are a hell of a lot faster...like 1-2000 plus mph.

That's what I'm wondering. Whatever that is is either moving very slowly or is very large and very far away. Either way this doesn't look like a SAM.

[Herbn-Legend]

Fucking stoner.

but I do love hash😍😍 bubblehashh hell even afghan terrorist hash😯💨💨😔

[chefist]

"can't give you exact dimension but it is huge"...100,000 sq miles....1 billion sq miles?...you can narrow is down for the sake of conversation...

[lonevoice]

I'm late but here... Kinda! Hello all!

[trostol]

cmon break..i gotta use the facilities lol

[coaster]

I like being reminded of this story. Its really interesting. This is the epitome of coverup.

[chefist]

Hi Lone! Hope you are well sweetheart! 

[MV/Liberace!]

That's what I'm wondering. Whatever that is either moving very slowly or is very large and very far away. Either way this doesn't look like a SAM.

yeah, the video doesn't really prove much.  i find the statements of the case's investigators to be far more compelling.

[Herbn-Legend]

That's what she said.

she better say that roll that an SMOKE THAT😯💨💨💨 like all the woman of hawaii an colorado an washington an oregon an california etc...

[whiptrackercracker]

Robots.....those bastards!

[cosman]

Here's the fed's story., and the're stickin' to it..       

a. russell tape (richard russell): ``salinger's missile''
    The SPLITT (GHOSTING) from the Russell tape IS FROM JET EXPRESS 18.
Analysis by experts determined that the OBJECT WAS NOT A MISSILE, since
it was positively identified. Object was a ``Ghost'' of Jet Express 18
which was at a different location.
                        b. the linda kabot photo
    The photo taken by Kabot depicts a bearing of north/northeast. TWA
Flight 800 was south/southwest almost directly behind her.
    Photograph analyzed by CIA National Imagery and Mapping
Administration (NIMA) advised that:

        1. There is object in photo
        2. Object is not a missile
        3. Object appears to be an aircraft, not possible to id
        aircraft because:

       Not possible to determine distance of object from
        camera.
       Exact time of photo unknown: (time frame only is known).
       Insufficient detail in photo to determine type of
        aircraft.

        4. Object is not a drone

       No drone-exercises conducted near Long Island July 17,
        1996.
              c. heidi krieger photograph (streak in sky)
    Negative was sent to FBIHQ for analysis, which determined that
there was DEBRIS ON THE FILM SURFACE.
    d. seat cushion residue (reported in riverside california press)
    The residue appeared red and flaky and was subjected to microscopic
and chemical examination. The analysis determined the items were
consistent with a chlorinated polymeric material, commonly used as
CONTACT ADHESIVE. The red material is NOT ROCKET FUEL OR RESIDUE OF
ROCKET FUEL. Three people convicted in U.S. District Court (one
misdemeanor, 2 felony after trial) of charges related to theft of parts
of the seat cushion from the hangar.
     e. u.s. navy activity in w. 105-106-107--areas closest to the
                         shores of long island
    The warning areas mutually co-exist with commercial air traffic and
were open for COMMERCIAL USE ON JULY 17, 1996.
    There were NO MISSILE FIRINGS FOR TWO YEARS prior to July 17, 1996,
in the Whiskey 105-106-107 areas.
    Military Search and Rescue Exercise conducted July 17, 1996. NO
WEAPONS UTILIZED. NO WEAPONS ON BOARD.
    NO TRAINING EXERCISES UTILIZING ANY WEAPONS were conducted in those
areas on JULY 17, 1996.
    There are designated live firing areas within the Whiskey areas.
Artillery and small caliber weapons fire are authorized in these areas.
The closest area of this type is 86 miles east of the crash site. There
was no Navy firing on July 17, 1996 in that area.
                     f. salinger/goddard statement
    ``I believe promoting the Navy-missile theory was a big mistake. I
believe that the evidence is not sufficient to blame the Navy, and I
wish to move away from that and all areas of conspiracy inquiry
forever.''

[popple]

A robot fired the missile? IT BEGINS!

[nbirnes]

That's pretty much all I know.  He and his friend made several attempts to report it and clearly the FBI did not have any interest in it. They watched them bringing the wreckage into the Coast Guard station in Hampton Bays. Just a couple miles from their home. Even there they could not attract anyone to hear their story. He said his friend called the news and they were not interested either.  This really bothers me that the cover up is so widespread.

Jim and Bill are working on a new updated book on this. Can I PM you?

[AppealPlay]

IT WAS A ROBOT!



This is a really good show.  I like it.

[RoseGirl]

oh my gorsh....that flute was so clear I actually thought someone was in my living room playing it for a second. lol

[aldousburbank]

but I do love hash😍😍 bubblehashh hell even afghan terrorist hash😯💨💨😔

I recall back in the dayz when Afghani freedom fighter were good little muhajadeen the afghani hash used to make it all the way to the little southwestern towns. I was told it travelled fro with lapis lazuli on the same planes that arms traveled  to.

[lonevoice]

Hi Lone! Hope you are well sweetheart! 

Thanks, chefist!  Looking forward to this show; Bill Birnes is always a good listen. 

[chefist]

Jim and Bill are working on a new updated book on this. Can I PM you?

In the old days folks would not connect so quickly! This is great! Good job Nancy on making it happen! 

[SciFiAuthor]

yeah, the video doesn't really prove much.  i find the statements of the case's investigators to be far more compelling.

Yeah, I'm only wondering about this video. The eye witness accounts were pretty widespread as I recall. Also, there was some grumbling at Boeing over the supposed fuel tank/short circuit explanation, some of the engineers didn't buy it.

[AppealPlay]

Very well could be a cover up, honestly.  The official story of TWA 800 has always seemed fishy to me.

[Jocko Johnson]

The Seawolf class sub was basically a cold war sub...designed and built to fight the Soviets. By thebtime to was approved and built it became a test bed of sorts. I believe one other maybe, seawolf class sub was built...but the data from it, and the seawolf is still operational, and what we have learned post cold war is now being put into the new Virginia class subs that are approved,  funded and being built. So...?

[chefist]

Thanks, chefist!  Looking forward to this show; Bill Birnes is always a good listen.

I'm a Bill Birnes Fan! Going to Area 51 as a side trip in Oct. while in Vegas...fun stuff, third time! ..largest ball of twine type visit...I like that stuff! 

[AppealPlay]

I think John Lear has a story about Boeing being paid off in the form of government contracts to go along with the government story.