Art Bell

[MV/Liberace!]

I suppose #3 reflects your assumption that this had to be a historic interview, but that really was just an assumption on your part -- along with the notion of people listening to it in twenty years.

"Historic" is your word choice, not mine. Perhaps special, but not historic.

And I think there's plenty of reason to believe it will be listened to in the future. The stuff that seems so important now will be an asterisk.

Anyway, I'm happy with how the interview went. Some aren't. That's how it goes.

[GravitySucks]

"Historic" is your word choice, not mine. Perhaps special, but not historic.

And I think there's plenty of reason to believe it will be listened to in the future. The stuff that seems so important now will be an asterisk.

Anyway, I'm happy with how the interview went. Some aren't. That's how it goes.

I was very proud of you MV

[DarKPenguiN]

I take back my apology

Nooooooooooooooooooooooo. You cannot be an Indian giver with apologies. Its in the forum rules and the US Constitution, the Magna carta, hammurabis lawcode and some other even more important documents from egypy that are buried under the paw of the Spinx.

Plus it isnt nice.

[ItsOver]

Is there any other kind of fucking?

There's always Putin-plugging.

[onan]

"Historic" is your word choice, not mine. Perhaps special, but not historic.

And I think there's plenty of reason to believe it will be listened to in the future. The stuff that seems so important now will be an asterisk.

Anyway, I'm happy with how the interview went. Some aren't. That's how it goes.

Not that you need my accolades, but it was a great show.

[DarKPenguiN]

"Historic" is your word choice, not mine. Perhaps special, but not historic.

And I think there's plenty of reason to believe it will be listened to in the future. The stuff that seems so important now will be an asterisk.

Anyway, I'm happy with how the interview went. Some aren't. That's how it goes.

I think itll be historic and I totally agree that the stuff that seems important now is pointless in the scope of things.

I think you did an awesome job and handled things well for what my opinion is worth (which isnt much around here). Time will tell though.

[SciFiAuthor]

All trees are feminine, even the guy trees, if you get my meaning.

And we've concluded that all trees are gay in a thread about Art Bell. Bellgab isn't totally lost after all.

[onan]

And we've concluded that all trees are gay in a thread about Art Bell. Bellgab isn't totally lost after all.

Life is a circle.

[TigerLily]

whats worse is..this tree stabbed him

You always hurt the one you love

[GravitySucks]

whats worse is..this tree stabbed him

In all fairness, he was climbing down and trying to leaf.

[trostol]

You always hurt the one you love

this is true...but a lot of times..not physically lol

[trostol]

In all fairness, he was climbing down and trying to leaf.

you do make a strong case there

[TigerLily]

Nooooooooooooooooooooooo. You cannot be an Indian giver with apologies. Its in the forum rules and the US Constitution, the Magna carta, hammurabis lawcode and some other even more important documents from egypy that are buried under the paw of the Spinx.

Plus it isnt nice.

You know " Indian Giver" refers to the U.S. Government granting land to the Native Americans in perpetuity and then forcibly taking it back

And I am never speaking to you again. Live with it

[DarKPenguiN]

In the future when people talk about Art bell and his merits as a broadcaster, his achievements and his contribution to radio it will be the 90s Art bell where the focus will be and everything since his retirement from C2C will be a footnote including sirius, the stalker, mitd, etc...

So you'll have the Art bell legacy being the main focus and then "after his retirement from  C2C he faced a series of personal issues and further retirements returning to radio for a few brief times before hanging it up" or something to that effect.

This shit wont even being worth discussing in 20 years and nobody will care beyond it being a brief event that doesnt really matter.

[DarKPenguiN]

You know " Indian Giver" refers to the U.S. Government granting land to the Native Americans in perpetuity and then forcibly taking it back

And I am never speaking to you again. Live with it

Just as you have granted me an apology and then forcibly took it back. You have persecuted me like a lowly Indian.

I'll not forget this evil  that has been perpetuated against me.

[onan]

In the future when people talk about Art bell and his merits as a broadcaster, his achievements and his contribution to radio it will be the 90s Art bell where the focus will be and everything since his retirement from C2C will be a footnote including sirius, the stalker, mitd, etc...

So you'll have the Art bell legacy being the main focus and then 'after his retirement from  C2C he faced a series of personal issues and further retirements returning to radio for a new brief times before hanging it up" or something to that effect.

This shit wont evcen being worth discussing in 20 years and nobody will care beyond it being a brief event that doesnt really matter.

I think the reference to 20 years is more about how Art's shows from the 90's are still listened to regularly. I plan on being around for another 20, so I will be listening.

[Richard Groyper]

"Historic" is your word choice, not mine. Perhaps special, but not historic.

And I think there's plenty of reason to believe it will be listened to in the future. The stuff that seems so important now will be an asterisk.

Anyway, I'm happy with how the interview went. Some aren't. That's how it goes.

Capital letters! What's going on, MV?

[DarKPenguiN]

I think the reference to 20 years is more about how Art's shows from the 90's are still listened to regularly. I plan on being around for another 20, so I will be listening.

Oh for sure-

My take is that MVs interview will have value in 20 years far more than had it been more focused on recent events.

Art Bell may not be doing many more interviews and doubtful they will be 2 hours long. That gabcast has historic significance imho.

The internet as a whole has changed everything. 100 years from now that could still be archived and listened to. Media is no longer lost so long as the grid stays in place. Nothing, ever is lost . Things like this have value  in a way we cannot foresee.

[GuerrillaUnReal]

Even Falkie left 

That's the real tragedy in all this.  BellGab lost it's biggest lolcow/pressure valve.

[Étouffée]

Someone wrote a song about it
Nashville (1975)

http://youtu.be/4BYyDusJYJo

[TigerLily]

Just as you have granted me an apology and then forcibly took it back. You have persecuted me like a lowly Indian.

I'll not forget this evil  that has been perpetuated against me.

You disseminated some truly vile rumor proven in court to be a lie. You did it for your entertainment and to make a few nasty little boys giggle.

It is easy to forget behind these public and private personas are real people. I've thrown some shit around here but there is a line. If you want Lord of the Flies I name you Piggy.

Do unto others, shithead. Now I'm never speaking to you again

[DarKPenguiN]

You disseminated some truly vile rumor proven in court to be a lie. You did it for your entertainment and to make a few nasty little boys giggle.

It is easy to forget behind these public and private personas are real people. I've thrown some shit around here but there is a line. If you want Lord of the Flies I name you Piggy.

Do unto others, shithead. Now I'm never speaking to you again

You said you were never speaking to me last time-

You're being a tease.

[GuerrillaUnReal]

I think MV is absolutely right about that show being something 20 years from now. It's the book end with Heather's interview before this all started. I also think the Bella-Haven interview with Keith will be in there. And the interview a year from now with Art to wrap up and create the narrative for DMDN dying. It'll be like the Stern compendiums (which are fucking spectacular) on YouTube floating around out there where people compile the important shows in a story episode by episode.

I was trying to call in at the end because I thought the calls were weak and if no one else was going to question Art on his bullshit. But that wasn't what that show was about. In a lot of ways it was much cooler to listen to MV than Art to hear a random fat dude from Missouri talk to a icon of his. I know some other people were too but in this moment I'm glad no one got through.

[GuerrillaUnReal]

By the way, someone said Howard Hughes talked about the deal Art made him on his recent show. Has anyone heard it? I asked this once, but no one answered.

[GravitySucks]

By the way, someone said Howard Hughes talked about the deal Art made him on his recent show. Has anyone heard it? I asked this once, but no one answered.

Yes. It is in his latest episode and he confirms the stuff Keith wrote and what Art said. Pretty good discussion.

If you go to the GABCAST thread, I rethink someone posted the time. It is about 5 or 6 minutes into the show.

[GuerrillaUnReal]

Yes. It is in his latest episode and he confirms the stuff Keith wrote and what Art said. Pretty good discussion.

If you go to the GABCAST thread, I rethink someone posted the time. It is about 5 or 6 minutes into the show.

Thank you man. Didn't see it before.

[DarKPenguiN]

By the way, someone said Howard Hughes talked about the deal Art made him on his recent show. Has anyone heard it? I asked this once, but no one answered.

No but Howard Hughes made a wise decision not to take it. DMRN is either going to adapt quickly or die and it looks like the latter.

[DarKPenguiN]

I wonder if they offered Warner, Hughes and whoever else guaranteed contracts to replace Heather? For the amount of money they probably offered in desperation, I might take the money, watch network sink in a few months and then kick back with mailbox money for how long was left on the contract. But if that was to happen, I wouldn't plan on a career in radio for the near future afterwards.

We know they make their talents associated with MITD sign non-competes so I wonder if there would be guaranteed money?

The key would be in not basing your career off of it. Would a non-compete even be enforced if the network itself folded? And what would constitute 'folding; since they could just move it to blog talk or something and claim they are still operating?

Lots of uncharted waters here especially dealing with people over the internet . Lots of internet personalities are extremely talented but probably arent used to dealing with agents and promoters and Keith is probably quite business savvy. I would imagine DMRN has their best interests covered.

I would be curious about an NDA- I bet theres behind the scenes stories to be told that we may never get to hear except in rumor.

[GuerrillaUnReal]

The key would be in not basing your career off of it. Would a non-compete even be enforced if the network itself folded? And what would constitute 'folding; since they could just move it to blog talk or something and claim they are still operating?

Lots of uncharted waters here especially dealing with people over the internet . Lots of internet personalities are extremely talented but probably arent used to dealing with agents and promoters and Keith is probably quite business savvy. I would imagine DMRN has their best interests covered.

I would be curious about an NDA- I bet theres behind the scenes stories to be told that we may never get to hear except in rumor.

From my experience a non-compete depends on if the company is bought out or not. If DMDN is bought out (which it wouldn't be) the purchaser would be responsible for fulfilling your contract as part of the original companies debts. If the company folds then you have to get involved with bankruptcy proceedings to get a piece of the assets. Since DMDN doesn't have any assets that I'm aware, that'd probably be an act of futility. Notice Art removed himself completely from this entity although Keith has been the heat magnet all along.

But after hearing about Amy's non-compete, who knows what's in those deals?

Also anyone notice Art was lying about Howard replacing Heather on MITD?

[DarKPenguiN]

From my experience a non-compete depends on if the company is bought out or not. If DMDN is bought out (which it wouldn't be) the purchaser would be responsible for fulfilling your contract as part of the original companies debts. If the company folds then you have to get involved with bankruptcy proceedings to get a piece of the assets. Since DMDN doesn't have any assets that I'm aware, that'd probably be an act of futility. Notice Art removed himself completely from this entity although Keith has been the heat magnet all along.

But after hearing about Amy's non-compete, who knows what's in those deals?

I'm pretty ignorant of how that all works beyond stuff ive read people saying on forums.

And yeah, Art seemed to have distanced himself with haste. As much as i think keith appears to be a dick, I cant help but feel sorry for him. Hes probably got alot riding on this in terms of sweat and money and without Art its going to be a really tough sell without some major restructuring and a massive downscale of ambition. The subscriber fees arent feasible long term (even with art) and moving majorly into terrestrial radio isnt going to happen. Hes going to utilize the strength of the web and free media and make it work (expecting far less profit) or its down the drain.