President Donald J. Trump

[PB the Deplorable]

The extrajudicial killings I refer to is his war on drugs. Hes urged the police and vigilantes to kill dealers and users alike. Hundreds if not thousands of men, women, and children have been killed in the streets. Without being arrested, charged, or convicted in a court of law. People claim he did the same when he was a Mayor. Such is Lawless, and out of bounds, where there is Rule of Law. Banana Republic tactics. 

At the moment he is within his bounds of power in Mindanao. I don't have a problem with it. However if their Supreme Court or Congress revokes his declaration of martial law, and he refuses. That is lawless and out of bounds. That I would have a problem with.

I don't know if you realize this, but the Philippines IS a banana republic.  They have not achieved the level we have as far as the rule of law, a level economic playing field, education, opportunity, and all the rest that goes with a modern western country. 

They had a drug epidemic, caused by the Chinese drug gangs.  It was creating death, violence, and poverty.  Options are limited when the police are corrupt, judges are corrupt, and politicians are corrupt.  They don't have The Rule of Law as we know it.  We Americans really need to get off our high horses, stop interfering in the internal affairs of other countries, and let them decide how best to handle their own problems.  If they want our input, they'll ask.

Most third world countries are in worse condition than The Philippines, and have worse leaders.  But we should single out The Philippines because they are our allies and we have a good relationship with them?  If the people of that country don't approve, they will vote for another oligarch next time around. 

[Dr. MD MD]

I don't know if you realize this, but the Philippines IS a banana republic.  They have not achieved the level we have as far as the rule of law, a level economic playing field, education, opportunity, and all the rest that goes with a modern western country. 

They had a drug epidemic, caused by the Chinese drug gangs.  It was creating death, violence, and poverty.  Options are limited when the police are corrupt, judges are corrupt, and politicians are corrupt.  They don't have The Rule of Law as we know it.  We Americans really need to get off our high horses, stop interfering in the internal affairs of other countries, and let them decide how best to handle their own problems.  If they want our input, they'll ask.

Most third world countries are in worse condition than The Philippines, and have worse leaders.  But we should single out The Philippines because they are our allies and we have a good relationship with them?  If the people of that country don't approve, they will vote for another oligarch next time around.

I've been trying figure out why she's talking about the Philippines like it's America and what's going on there is somehow Trump's fault. 

[PB the Deplorable]

And frankly, this is just the sort of thing we are trying to prevent from happening here - a descent into Banana Republic status. 

But that's where we are heading with our borders open to Latin cartels, drug gangs, other criminals, and Islamic terrorists.  It's where we are headed with an increasingly brazen and violent Occupy/BLM/Antifa - rioting, blocking roads and bridges, and denying assess to speakers.  It's where we are heading in the attempt to overturn an election.  And it's where we are headed with the lawless judiciary openly joining forces with the Fake News Media and the ''Progressive'' Democrats and seizing powers for themselves. 

[PB the Deplorable]

I've been trying figure out why she's talking about the Philippines like it's America and what's going on there is somehow Trump's fault. 

I realized there is no logic to the Left back when on one day they would be telling us Reagan was an evil mastermind manipulating everything that went on, and the next day they would tell us he was a dunce sleeping through his term.

They are sock puppets who simply repeat what they are fed by the Fake News Media.  Every day is a new day, and it's whatever is needed to support the cause today.  Never mind what was said and done yesterday.

[Dr. MD MD]

I realized there is no logic to the Left back when on one day they would be telling us Reagan was an evil mastermind manipulating everything that went on, and the next day they would tell us he was a dunce sleeping through his term.

They are sock puppets who simply repeat what they are fed by the Fake News Media.  Every day is a new day, and it's whatever is needed to support the cause today.  Never mind what was said and done yesterday.

Yeah, I remember SNL making fun of that back when it was funny:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCOsnFw5wlc&t=272s

[mikuthing01]

No market for it. The average Brit male has penis longer than the average American two inches, so has no need for an eight litre V8 4x4 truck that is three feet off the ground.

Glad my dream truck is a Inline 6 and sits less than 3 feet off the ground so i can keep muh big penis ~desu

And no pud i will not send you pictures of my penis quit PMing me

[WOTR]

According to those who brief me you like to kill cats with your bare hands and then fondle their carcasses like little babies.

Damn it all.  Who has been "leaking" classified information! 

It does not change the fact that several Bellgabbers (and one president) have probably spent time with pencil crayons and a copy of that book. 

[Catsmile]

I don't know if you realize this, but the Philippines IS a banana republic.  They have not achieved the level we have as far as the rule of law, a level economic playing field, education, opportunity, and all the rest that goes with a modern western country. 

They had a drug epidemic, caused by the Chinese drug gangs.  It was creating death, violence, and poverty.  Options are limited when the police are corrupt, judges are corrupt, and politicians are corrupt.  They don't have The Rule of Law as we know it.  We Americans really need to get off our high horses, stop interfering in the internal affairs of other countries, and let them decide how best to handle their own problems.  If they want our input, they'll ask.

Most third world countries are in worse condition than The Philippines, and have worse leaders.  But we should single out The Philippines because they are our allies and we have a good relationship with them?  If the people of that country don't approve, they will vote for another oligarch next time around. 

I'm well aware of the Philippines. What they are, and are not. Just because you type something doesn't make it a fact. They have a Constitution, and Legal System, much like our own, some of which is drafted after the USAs. They ether function within the bounds of their laws, or not. It's that simple, no sliding scale due to affluence, or lack thereof. Assuming they shouldn't have basic human rights because they haven't achieved "the level we have" is bordering on myopia, or bigotry.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. These rights apply to all human-beings, without a sliding scale.

No Due Process denied Life and Liberty to thousands killed in the Philippines. Which is in direct opposition to the people of the Philippines laws. Spare the world your sanctimony.

[PB the Deplorable]

.... Spare the world your sanctimony.

Um, you're the one being sanctimonious here.  And isn't interfering with our government what everyone's pretending to be upset with the Russians about? 

[Dr. MD MD]

I'm well aware of the Philippines. What they are, and are not. Just because you type something doesn't make it a fact. They have a Constitution, and Legal System, much like our own, some of which is drafted after the USAs. They ether function within the bounds of their laws, or not. It's that simple, no sliding scale due to affluence, or lack thereof. Assuming they shouldn't have basic human rights because they haven't achieved "the level we have" is bordering on myopia, or bigotry.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. These rights apply to all human-beings, without a sliding scale.

No Due Process denied Life and Liberty to thousands killed in the Philippines. Which is in direct opposition to the people of the Philippines laws. Spare the world your sanctimony.

OK, so you're from the Philippines then? 

[PB the Deplorable]

Well if you know more about the law, constitution, and government than all the senate, congress, judges, and lawyers. You need to hurry up and tell all of them they are doing it wrong...

We did, we rejected Hilary Clinton and elected Donald Trump.  We voted the Democrats out of state legislatures, governorships, the House and the Senate. 

And now the Left is trying to overturn the election results.  So spare me your sanctimony.  Again.

[Meister_000]

 

https://twitter.com/TIMOTHYJOHNART/status/869427605140721664

[PB the Deplorable]

I'm well aware of the Philippines. What they are, and are not. Just because you type something doesn't make it a fact. They have a Constitution, and Legal System, much like our own, some of which is drafted after the USAs. They ether function within the bounds of their laws, or not. It's that simple, no sliding scale due to affluence, or lack thereof. Assuming they shouldn't have basic human rights because they haven't achieved "the level we have" is bordering on myopia, or bigotry.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. These rights apply to all human-beings, without a sliding scale.

No Due Process denied Life and Liberty to thousands killed in the Philippines. Which is in direct opposition to the people of the Philippines laws. Spare the world your sanctimony.

So I'm wrong, the police aren't corrupt, the judges aren't corrupt, the politicians aren't corrupt.  All Duarte had to do was go arrest the Chinese drug gangs, and all the social problems they were causing would have gone away?  If that's the case, I'm wondering why he didn't start with that. 

I'm also wondering why the people of the Philippines voted for him for president if that's how he conducted himself when he was mayor, and they thought it was over the top unnecessary.

[PB the Deplorable]

https://twitter.com/TIMOTHYJOHNART/status/869427605140721664

Thanks Meister!  I was thinking about going to see Rog on this tour, now I won't.  Don't let anyone tell you you're useless.

[WOTR]

https://twitter.com/TIMOTHYJOHNART/status/869427605140721664

Finally the debate is over.  If Waters thinks it, then I'm willing to forgo any critical thought and just accept that he is correct.

I'm trying to recall the rock musician who basically said that anybody who would listen to a rock star about politics is dumb.  It will come to me as I actually gained a little respect for him...

[PB the Deplorable]

By the way, isn't he a Brit?  It looks to me like the Democrats are colluding with a foreigner to overturn the election.

[Dr. MD MD]

https://twitter.com/TIMOTHYJOHNART/status/869427605140721664

He's a talented guy but let's be honest. He made his career by ousting the founder of his band and then writing songs about how he slowly went mad because of it. He's one to talk!  :

[21st Century Man]

Damn, on and on about having beef... Go eat, beef is apparently what you crave.

Sorry you don't approve, but it is a forum. Don't like it don't read it. My bullshit is every bit as valid as P*BTheFakes bullshit. You simply align with his bullshit moar than mine.

He posts around dozen post a day, to my 7-10 post a week, most of which not addressing P*B. Poor ganged up and picked upon P*BTheFake. Maybe find a safe space on Faux Newz and AM radio. They say things you agree with, but then you wouldn't have any beef.

If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding, how can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat! You! Yes, you! behind the bikesheds, stand still laddie!

       CAN I HAS THE WALL NAO?

This actually made me crack up.  i'm a big Floyd fan and that is probably my favorite song of theirs.  I gather you are a bit of an anarchist.  Takes all kinds in this wonderful land called America.   I don't come here to try and convert people to my way of thinking.  It would be pointless.  People come to the politics thread with very carefully thought-out beliefs and rarely will anyone have their mind changed.  I could go into a litany of what I believe but I've already said it a few times over the years.  Search "central government' along with my name  at the top of the page.  You'll hit a few posts where I describe my beliefs.  And you know what, it would be scary if all of us believed the same things.  We all have different environmental factors that have shaped our lives and cause each if us to believe the way that we do.   We should be engaging in a fruitful discussion.  One not born from anger.

I know though.  It can be fun to shitpost sometimes but I try not to get too carried away with it or get too cruel.  I'd really like to just chat.  Not tonight though as it is my bedtime.

[WOTR]

Hello Alice Cooper.  I really don't care if somebody like Trump or Clinton- but using your stage to push your stupid agenda is in poor taste.  "Please pay me $100 to hear me spew my useless views on politics."  But I digress.

The original quote was "If you're listening to a rock star in order to get your information on who to vote for, you're a bigger moron than they are."

But, it seems recently he gave an interview and expounded.

Cooper weighed in on the subject by bluntly stating, “I absolutely hate it. It’s the worst idea ever. First of all, why do people think rock stars know more than they do? That is the biggest fallacy in the world â€" if anything, we’re dumber. We’re not smarter than anybody else. I mean, why do you think we’re rock stars?”

...“Trust me, we don’t read magazines you don’t read. Nobody calls us up and gives us as inside information on politics. We know less than you do. If I watch TV, it’s Family Guy.”

Furthermore, Cooper believes rock “was built to go as far away from politics as you could get” ...

Anyhow, take it from Alice Cooper- you are a moron for thinking that the opinion of Waters has any relevance. 

[Catsmile]

And frankly, this is just the sort of thing we are trying to prevent from happening here - a descent into Banana Republic status. 

But that's where we are heading with our borders open to Latin cartels, drug gangs, other criminals, and Islamic terrorists.  It's where we are headed with an increasingly brazen and violent Occupy/BLM/Antifa - rioting, blocking roads and bridges, and denying assess to speakers.  It's where we are heading in the attempt to overturn an election.  And it's where we are headed with the lawless judiciary openly joining forces with the Fake News Media and the ''Progressive'' Democrats and seizing powers for themselves. 

[albrecht]

I'm well aware of the Philippines. What they are, and are not. Just because you type something doesn't make it a fact. They have a Constitution, and Legal System, much like our own, some of which is drafted after the USAs. They ether function within the bounds of their laws, or not. It's that simple, no sliding scale due to affluence, or lack thereof. Assuming they shouldn't have basic human rights because they haven't achieved "the level we have" is bordering on myopia, or bigotry.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. These rights apply to all human-beings, without a sliding scale.

No Due Process denied Life and Liberty to thousands killed in the Philippines. Which is in direct opposition to the people of the Philippines laws. Spare the world your sanctimony.

Weirdo, where is that? Constitution? No, again Articles of Independence (ours, not theirs though.  : ) But, even on the basics, you are lacking. Scary. Though- I agree natural born rights of men and it is not, as Obama posited and claimed some positive rights, and many others of his ilk have done, but natural, or by God in some thinking, natural-  not granted or created/expanded by government. Though nothing aside from this I can find, so far:
""The Filipino people, imploring the aid of Divine Providence and desiring to lead a free national existence, do hereby proclaim their independence, and in order to establish a government that shall promote the general welfare, conserve and develop the patrimony of the Nation, and contribute to the creation of a world order based on peace, liberty, and moral justice, do ordain this Constitution."

[21st Century Man]

I've written more on these topics than you've ever read, shitstain.

P*B is wrong-headed but he has done some reasoning, however defective, to get there. You on the other hand are a parrot.

OK.  Let me throw out a subject to you and I'll give you til tomorrow to answer.  Should the fed govt. be forced to abide by the 10th amendment or should it be swept under a rug?  How do you feel about the size of our massive govt.?  Would you like to see more power go back to the states?  Or would you rather live in a bureaucratic legalistic behemoth of a government very similar to what existed in the film Brazil?  Just tackle these questions honestly.  I look forward to reading your replies tomorrow.

Also feel free to drop links to any posts that you think would be informative.  I want to know what you believe.  Let's get beyond the nastiness and discuss this as mature human beings.

[albrecht]

Hello Alice Cooper.  I really don't care if somebody like Trump or Clinton- but using your stage to push your stupid agenda is in poor taste.  "Please pay me $100 to hear me spew my useless views on politics."  But I digress.

The original quote was "If you're listening to a rock star in order to get your information on who to vote for, you're a bigger moron than they are."

But, it seems recently he gave an interview and expounded.

Cooper weighed in on the subject by bluntly stating, “I absolutely hate it. It’s the worst idea ever. First of all, why do people think rock stars know more than they do? That is the biggest fallacy in the world â€" if anything, we’re dumber. We’re not smarter than anybody else. I mean, why do you think we’re rock stars?”

...“Trust me, we don’t read magazines you don’t read. Nobody calls us up and gives us as inside information on politics. We know less than you do. If I watch TV, it’s Family Guy.”

Furthermore, Cooper believes rock “was built to go as far away from politics as you could get” ...

Anyhow, take it from Alice Cooper- you are a moron for thinking that the opinion of Waters has any relevance. 

Damn him. I will consult the country club. He will banned, even if some 'celebrity' event. And he expects me to not vote based on others who attend or general "rock star" and Hollywood advice. How DARE he! They are the experts...
ps: no playing "Schools Out For Summer" when the nanny, or me in a pinch, picks up the kids this week. (Well, maybe then...)

[PB the Deplorable]

Brilliant!  I should have just posted that when you were going on about Duarte.

[21st Century Man]

That Albrecht himself, and his Right-wing mates generally, are somehow now to be seen as the "scholars" in the room, the "lovers of learning", is precisely what we call "fake" news today. But please, do go on . . . teacher.

Well you sure as hell aren't a scholar recommending bullshit like Brock's books.  His work is pure leftist propaganda.

[mikuthing01]

He's a talented guy but let's be honest. He made his career by ousting the founder of his band and then writing songs about how he slowly went mad because of it. He's one to talk!  :

It's cute Roger thinks hes still relevant when all of his solo albums have sucked and has to leach off his Pink Floyd fame to make money touring. To be fair though all of David Gilmour's solo albums have also sucked but at least Gilmour was a nice enough to win Roger bass playing awards. Without Syd, Roger would be a homeless bum servicing glory holes.

[21st Century Man]

Well if you know more about the law, constitution, and government than all the senate, congress, judges, and lawyers. You need to hurry up and tell all of them they are doing it wrong.

Make sure you shock and awe them, and the world with your "facts and logic." No doubt in my mind, they couldn't refute it's all a fake, fake, fake, Liberal ''Progressive" conspiracy theory. Bring 'em to their knees, bro. Go get em. Burn it all down. I don't fear the outcome, whatever it may be.



HURRY NAO! FUCK TRYING TO IMPRESS STRANGERS ON THE INTERNET! DO IT! YOU ARE THE HERO WE WANT AND NEED!!1
:

You do know many of our govt. officials are political hacks.  They have their agendas on the left and right.  All Congressmen and Senators should go to Hillsdale and spend a semester learning Constitutional law.  Hell they have free online classes much of the time.  Of course, the left would say that the right is trying to indoctrinate them.  Whatever.

[21st Century Man]

https://twitter.com/TIMOTHYJOHNART/status/869427605140721664

Gilmour and Wright said that Roger was waaaayyyyyy offffff in left field.  He's far too radical but I enjoy his music.

[21st Century Man]

Roger Waters  probably thinks Britain should have surrendered to the Nazis.  Then his poor dad wouldn't have died. The death of his father traumatized him for life.  War sucks but the Nazis had to be defeated. I'm sorry he had to lose his father but the needs of the many outweigh the needs of a few.  It was life or death for Britain.

[21st Century Man]

I'm done for the night.  G'night!