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Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on June 01, 2017, 02:23:28 PM
So, you admit you're just guessing then.  ::) ;D

Not a bad guess was it? I :) was pretty much correct. But you post what you think it is..  :D
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In the United States, more people were employed in solar power last year than in generating electricity through coal, gas and oil energy combined. According to a new report from the U.S. Department of Energy, solar power employed 43 percent of the Electric Power Generation sector’s workforce in 2016, while fossil fuels combined accounted for just 22 percent. It’s a welcome statistic for those seeking to refute Donald Trump’s assertion that green energy projects are bad news for the American economy.

Just under 374,000 people were employed in solar energy, according to the report, while coal, gas and oil power generation combined had a workforce of slightly more than 187,000. The boom in the country’s solar workforce can be attributed to construction work associated with expanding generation capacity. The gulf in employment is growing with net generation from coal falling 53 percent over the last decade. During the same period, electricity generation from natural gas increased 33 percent while solar expanded 5,000 percent.
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www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2017/01/25/u-s-solar-energy-employs-more-people-than-oil-coal-and-gas-combined-infographic/amp/

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on June 01, 2017, 02:31:05 PM
Not a bad guess was it? I :) was pretty much correct. But you post what you think it is..  :D

I'm sorry your wealth redistribution scam is falling through. Will you lose out on a lot of money?

albrecht

CNN folks are freaking out that Trump is pulling the US out of the non-binding Paris Agreement. Frantically reporting and being shocked that Trump, as they themselves were forced to admit, was "following through again on one of his campaign pledges" "despite disagreement by some people in his administration and even his own daughter." The usual media message is Trump is some kind of Russian stooge who does whatever his daughter's husband says and wasn't really going to follow up on his campaign promises which were just to get dumb white people's votes. Ha.

Wouldn't it be hilarious for Hollywood and the media if Trump pulling out meant that countries would actually coming up with a meaningful environmental agreement? Not just some non-binding treaty with platitudes and lots of meetings and make-work jobs for bureacrats.

Meister_000

Too Late Donny!
Answer: Election Eve 2016
How Out-of-Touch with Reality your President is.

Trump asks: "At what point does America get demeaned? At what point do they _start_ laughing at us as a country?"

https://twitter.com/politico/status/870369162610307074

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on June 01, 2017, 08:34:29 AM
Anyone remember Carter Page? The one time advisor to Trump with numerous speech appointments in Russia? Well, you remember how when the FBI paid attention to his admission on telly to Chris Hayes that he'd met (maybe  ;)) Kislyak (Russian ambassador and spy recruiter) at the RNC, he then went on studio round robin interviews with his beaming smile? Then he didn't. He went quiet and frowned a lot.

Then Spicy said with a straight face that Trump had never met him (although Trump picked him from a list) and was but a mere extra in the great Trump epic movie. Nothing to see. Page under the bus. Page frowned some more.

This yesterday from Trump.

“So now it is reported that the Democrats, who have excoriated Carter Page about Russia, don’t want him to testify. He blows away their case against him & now wants to clear his name by showing ‘the false or misleading testimony by James Comey, John Brennan…’ Witch Hunt!”

Other than implying that Comey and Brennan have committed perjury, he also makes the assertion that Page can prove their testimonies are wrong. How does he know that?  He's never met Page apparently.  ::)

Curiouser and curiouser.  ;)


You don't suppose Trump has sources that supply him with information do you?  How about the NYC lawyer he recently hired who would be expected to seek out and validate all information that tends to refute false claims about Trump and his associates.    Expect much more along the same lines.  There will be a systematic dismantling of the false narrative promulgated by a MSM that desperately wants to believe all that the frantic leftist and deep state conspirators allege against Trump.  You and the other Trump-hating saps who enjoy rolling in this unadulterated horse shit will suffer the same humiliation you did when Trump was elected.  But, not to worry--no one on this thread will rub your noses in your demonstrated foolishness for more than a month or two and it will be brought up only occasionally after that.



Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on June 01, 2017, 03:31:17 PM

You don't suppose Trump has sources that supply him with information do you?  How about the NYC lawyer he recently hired who would be expected to seek out and validate all information that tends to refute false claims about Trump and his associates.    Expect much more along the same lines.  There will be a systematic dismantling of the false narrative promulgated by a MSM that desperately wants to believe all that the frantic leftist and deep state conspirators allege against Trump.  You and the other Trump-hating saps who enjoy rolling in this unadulterated horse shit will suffer the same humiliation you did when Trump was elected.  But, not to worry--no one on this thread will rub your noses in your demonstrated foolishness for more than a month or two and it will be brought up only occasionally after that.

Is that the same NY lawyer who represented Trump when Trump sued a biographer who claimed in his book that contrary to the billions that Trump claimed he was worth, he'd calculated he was only worth about $250 million.

Trump sued for (get this!) $5BILLION. In court Trump attempted to prove his worth by saying he based it (and you can't make this up!) on "how I feel at any given time".

Needless to say the money he spent on the lawyer wasn't money well spent, and Trump didn't win the suit.

Incidentally which upsets you more? Trump telling the Philippines pres there are two nuclear subs off NK, or the Philippines pres putting the phone call transcript on the net?

You cool too with Jared (the silent one) Kushner trying to get a bat phone straight to the Kremlin as a civilian, via the Russian embassy? Inspired eh? Bit cheeky, but inspired. He has to find some way of refinancing his empire I suppose.

And what of Trump implying Comey and Brennan committed perjury (Because Page implied they're lying). You think Page might be on a firm footing with that?

PaulAtreides

Quote from: Meister_000 on June 01, 2017, 03:16:03 PM
Too Late Donny!
Answer: Election Eve 2016
How Out-of-Touch with Reality your President is.

Trump asks: "At what point does America get demeaned? At what point do they _start_ laughing at us as a country?"

https://twitter.com/politico/status/870369162610307074

Oh, Donny.  That train left.  And you've been driving it.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on June 01, 2017, 03:55:46 PM
And what of Trump implying Comey and Brennan committed perjury (Because Page implied they're lying). You think Page might be on a firm footing with that?

Your country's little intel op is unraveling.  :D

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on June 01, 2017, 04:22:02 PM
Your country's little intel op is unraveling.  :D

What?
Trump tweeted this yesterday.

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“So now it is reported that the Democrats, who have excoriated Carter Page about Russia, don’t want him to testify. He blows away their case against him & now wants to clear his name by showing ‘the false or misleading testimony by James Comey, John Brennan…’ Witch Hunt!”

Pretty much accusing Comey and Brennan of committing perjury.

albrecht

The Hollywood set -you know the ones with their private jets, gated estates, super-cars, private islands, self-promoting award ceremonies, crappy movies and tv shows, and epic drug binges- are in melt-down mode again over Trump withdrawing from a non-binding Paris Agreement. It is hilarious. I'm sick of all this winning. What would really be hilarious is if the withdrawal would mean countries, or even groups, would make real action on environmental protection and corporate business would make profits by becoming friendlier to the environment.
What would the Left and its media do then?
https://news.grabien.com/story-10-dumbest-reactions-trump-quitting-paris-climate-accord
http://variety.com/2017/biz/news/celebrities-react-to-paris-accord-withdraw-1202450934/

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: albrecht on June 01, 2017, 04:51:57 PM
The Hollywood set -you know the ones with their private jets, gated estates, super-cars, private islands, self-promoting award ceremonies, crappy movies and tv shows, and epic drug binges- are in melt-down mode again over Trump withdrawing from a non-binding Paris Agreement. It is hilarious. I'm sick of all this winning. What would really be hilarious is if the withdrawal would mean countries, or even groups, would make real action on environmental protection and corporate business would make profits by becoming friendlier to the environment.
What would the Left and its media do then?
https://news.grabien.com/story-10-dumbest-reactions-trump-quitting-paris-climate-accord
http://variety.com/2017/biz/news/celebrities-react-to-paris-accord-withdraw-1202450934/

Odd definition of winning: Drump whines and whines, self promotes, whines some more, and makes promises he can't deliver...winning?  :)

On a more serious note, it will gradually marginalise the USA, China will step in more than now, and America will suffer. Putin will have more influence and not in a good way to any western (and most eastern) countries. Bigly.

albrecht

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on June 01, 2017, 04:53:51 PM
Odd definition of winning: Drump whines and whines, self promotes, whines some more, and makes promises he can't deliver...winning?  :)
Even CNN had to admit that Trump made good on one of his campaign promises when he withdrew the US from the non-binding Paris Agreement; essentially a meaningless,symbolic agreement and really more of an excuse for meetings, lunches, and make-work jobs for bureaucrats.
And Hollywood and the media is in meltdown mode (again.) Winning. I'm sick of it.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/stars-politicians-respond-trump-calling-withdrawing-us-paris-agreement-1009554

albrecht

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on June 01, 2017, 04:53:51 PM
Odd definition of winning: Drump whines and whines, self promotes, whines some more, and makes promises he can't deliver...winning?  :)

On a more serious note, it will gradually marginalise the USA, China will step in more than now, and America will suffer. Putin will have more influence and not in a good way to any western (and most eastern) countries. Bigly.
True. Though China was already a problem (or at least potential problem) before Trump. Under the Obama administration they killed or imprisoned most of our intelligence assets and under Clinton they stole a whole bunch of our secrets. I still don't understand, except short-term profit, why we allow so many to come over and study here or for them to buy up so much real estate. They also are carving up Africa because, unlike us to at least pretend to care about corruption or human rights, they are willing to totally look the other way as long as the mines produce. But they also face problems of their own: other countries being cheaper, relying on the American market for much of their goods, having to import fuel, smog and very polluted environment, what to do when automation etc means cheap labor not needed, ethnic/religious divisions, and instability in the region.
http://www.dw.com/en/china-crippled-cia-operations-killed-informants-new-york-times/a-38920669
https://sinosphere.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/11/02/seen-a-spy-with-new-hotline-china-invites-you-to-call-it-in/


Yorkshire pud

Quote from: albrecht on June 01, 2017, 04:57:25 PM
Even CNN had to admit that Trump made good on one of his campaign promises when he with drew the US from the non-binding Paris Agreement; essentially a meaning less agree but an excuse for meetings, lunches, and make-work jobs for bureaucrats. And Hollywood and the media is in meltdown mode (again.) Winning. I'm sick of it.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/stars-politicians-respond-trump-calling-withdrawing-us-paris-agreement-1009554

Hollywood has fuck all to do with it. Binding or not its better than doing nothing. But then Putrid Pruit is an advocate of pollution and sees no problem with it. Then he was well paid by the polluters and plagarised a letter that he put on headed paper and sent to the EPA, when he was AG to Oklahoma.

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As attorney general of Oklahoma, Scott Pruitt worked closely with the fossil fuel industry in his state. So closely, in fact, that when Devon Energy, one of Oklahoma’s biggest oil and gas companies, emailed him a draft letter in 2011 opposing a federal effort to limit methane gas leaking from drilling operations, Pruitt changed a few words, put the letter on his own letterhead, and sent it to the US Environmental Protection Agency.
Devon Energy was pleased. “Outstanding!” William Whitsitt, who directed government relations at the company, emailed Pruitt after Pruitt’s office sent their letter to the EPA as though it was written by the attorney general himself, the New York Times reported. “The timing of the letter is great, given our meeting this Friday with both E.P.A. and the White House.”
The New York Times obtained both versions of the letter through an open-records request in 2014, calling it evidence of an “unprecedented, secretive alliance” between Pruitt and the oil and gas industry.

Draining the swamp...

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: albrecht on June 01, 2017, 05:06:11 PM
True. Though China was already a problem (or at least potential problem) before Trump. Under the Obama administration they killed or imprisoned most of our intelligence assets and under Clinton they stole a whole bunch of our secrets. I still don't understand, except short-term profit, why we allow so many to come over and study here or for them to buy up so much real estate. They also are carving up Africa because, unlike us to at least pretend to care about corruption or human rights, they are willing to totally look the other way as long as the mines produce. But they also face problems of their own: other countries being cheaper, relying on the American market for much of their goods, having to import fuel, smog and very polluted environment, what to do when automation etc means cheap labor not needed, ethnic/religious divisions, and instability in the region.
http://www.dw.com/en/china-crippled-cia-operations-killed-informants-new-york-times/a-38920669
https://sinosphere.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/11/02/seen-a-spy-with-new-hotline-china-invites-you-to-call-it-in/

China is decommissioning coal mines. The smog and respitory deaths in the major cities has kicked their asses into doing something.

albrecht

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on June 01, 2017, 05:06:22 PM
Hollywood has fuck all to do with it. Binding or not its better than doing nothing. But then Putrid Pruit is an advocate of pollution and sees no problem with it. Then he was well paid by the polluters and plagarised a letter that he put on headed paper and sent to the EPA, when he was AG to Oklahoma.

Draining the swamp...
Awesome. I hope he also allows more flaring at facilities. Always looks neat at night and better for safety. Having said that it is, or should, be in the business's self-interest to maintain facilities and pipelines. Besides the loss of the resource you also end up with lawsuits if it becomes a disaster or workers killed.
I like this photo! Note the, presumably, stereotypical Texas oil man in background, I guess celebrating the administration's decision.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/05/20/business/21DEVONENERGY2/20DEVONENERGY2-master675.jpg

albrecht

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on June 01, 2017, 05:11:38 PM
China is decommissioning coal mines. The smog and respitory deaths in the major cities has kicked their asses into doing something.
Exactly. I think Trump is wrong with all the coal talk, I think will still be a good thing to have but not the future of energy, at least in most places. We need to look more towards the future, not the past for all of the solutions. Some things about the past are good, of course, but it shouldn't be sole focus. It doesn't take bureaucrats at some fancy resort over some fine dining and Hollywood celebrities to tell people, or governments, to change their ways. The marketplace or health problems will wake people up. There also will be ways to actually make money- not just get government money- by being "green." I'm guessing that with technological developments many, if not most, of our "warming" problems, and other problems, will be solved- assuming we don't blow each other up or some bad virus happens.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on June 01, 2017, 04:46:22 PM
What?
Trump tweeted this yesterday.

Pretty much accusing Comey and Brennan of committing perjury.


You have an amazingly quick grasp of the patently obvious.  Comey is as dirty as the the day is long.  Brennen is an Obama butt boy and a convert to Islam.  Remember, you heard it here first.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on June 01, 2017, 04:53:51 PM
Odd definition of winning: Drump whines and whines, self promotes, whines some more, and makes promises he can't deliver...winning?  :)

On a more serious note, it will gradually marginalise the USA, China will step in more than now, and America will suffer. Putin will have more influence and not in a good way to any western (and most eastern) countries. Bigly.

LOL!  ;D


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z5wt_KVdjus

Kidnostad3

Quote from: albrecht on June 01, 2017, 12:29:57 PM
Having back channels is a good move. They have helped in the past.  I understand you leftists and neo-cons (strange bedfellows) want a new Cold War, or in some cases, a hot one. But I would rather engage in business, rather than war. We've dealt with corrupt countries and even dictators throughout history (look to the Gulf for a few examples or all our business with the Chinese.) Having said that I don't trust the Russians but would rather do oil&gas and mineral deals than have a war. And bring stability to the region and fight the common enemy of Islam. Maybe even, ideally, breaking up the somewhat cosy relationship developing between Russia and China. Obviously we need to be wary and defend allied countries in NATO. And if there was an corruption going between Trump, Clinton, Trump's family, various Foundations, government officials etc with Russia then they should be punished. The investigations should continue but be actual investigations and evidence- not just "fake news" conspiracy theories peddled by partisan "news" organizations.

Obama allowed lots of information about our "subs" and "spooks," and military members as well as ordinary Americans. Just the OPM leak gave even fingerprints and background checks of soldiers and spies out to the world. Manning, Snowden, etc, all on Obama's watch, gave even more information to the world. Under Obama China executed or imprisoned most of our "sources" according to the NY Times (a right-wing, hack-job of a newspaper.) Obama pardoned Manning because he "transitioned."
http://www.navytimes.com/story/military/2015/06/17/sf-86-security-clearance-breach-troops-affected-opm/28866125/
http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/opm-hack-security-breach-n389476

I recieved a letter from OPM that told me that the personal information that I was required to divulge in order to work as a defense contractor had been hacked, but, they were going to give me three years of free credit monitoring as compensation.  I feel a lot better about the  whole thing now.

albrecht

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on June 01, 2017, 05:37:38 PM
I recieved a letter from OPM that told me that the personal information that I was required to divulge in order to work as a defense contractor had been hacked, but, they were going to give me three years of free credit monitoring as compensation.  I feel a lot better about the  whole thing now.
I've gotten that letter also simply because a family member once worked for the government, decades ago, but I guess due to security clearances/screening I was also in the system. A whole lot of other government databases have been hacked or stuff leaked. Which is why, to me, it is crazy that the government's solution is to make even more, and larger, data-mining operations and databases, like the Obamacare one and the new NSA facility, to be used on US citizens- but so often ignore Muslim terrorists who 'are on the radar.' In the Obama administration DOS officers who vetted immigrants weren't even allowed to look at their social media posts and accounts- publicly available information usually- lest we offend Muslims. But ok to spy on US citizens and Congress.

starrmtn001

President Donald Trump Withdraw From Paris Accord Agreement Press Conference Climate Change Decision.  6.1.17.

https://youtu.be/tnLbTjkqv3E

AMERICA GREAT AGAIN: DONALD TRUMP PULLS AMERICA OUT OF THE PARIS CLIMATE DEAL.  6.1.17.

https://youtu.be/X6eH1OKxhLw

Quote from: albrecht on June 01, 2017, 03:12:11 PM
CNN folks are freaking out that Trump is pulling the US out of the non-binding Paris Agreement. Frantically reporting and being shocked that Trump, as they themselves were forced to admit, was "following through again on one of his campaign pledges"...

Wouldn't it be hilarious for Hollywood and the media if Trump pulling out meant that countries would actually coming up with a meaningful environmental agreement? Not just some non-binding treaty with platitudes and lots of meetings and make-work jobs for bureacrats.

If this was so wonderful, why didn't Obama submit it to the Senate, as is required for treaties to be ratified.  Oh, right, it wouldn't have been ratified, and Obama doesn't believe in Constitutional authority anyway.  Right, Catsmile?

Quote from: albrecht on June 01, 2017, 03:12:11 PM
CNN folks are freaking out that Trump is pulling the US out of the non-binding Paris Agreement. Frantically reporting and being shocked that Trump, as they themselves were forced to admit, was "following through again on one of his campaign pledges"...

Wouldn't it be hilarious for Hollywood and the media if Trump pulling out meant that countries would actually coming up with a meaningful environmental agreement? Not just some non-binding treaty with platitudes and lots of meetings and make-work jobs for bureacrats.

This ''non-binding'' ''treaty'', would have mostly affect the US, and to a certain extent Western Europe.  Not big polluters China and India, not the rest of the world.  Those other big polluters would have ignored the parts that applied to them anyway, while the US would have actually implemented much of it.  More lost jobs here, more of our jobs flowing to Asia, and all the rest. 

This was about more government control, more of our national sovereignty handed over to the Globalists, and another giant step towards the true long term goal of the Left - a one-world fascist left-wing dictatorship run by them.

This is why Trump is so loathed by the Globalists, their hacks and stooges, and the rank and file ''Progressives'' goose-stepping along behind.  Right Meister?

Quote from: albrecht on June 01, 2017, 03:12:11 PM
... Wouldn't it be hilarious for Hollywood and the media if Trump pulling out meant that countries would actually coming up with a meaningful environmental agreement? Not just some non-binding treaty with platitudes and lots of meetings and make-work jobs for bureacrats.

If anything, we should be talking about binding pollution and environmental safeguards, for everyone.  Specific actions, not this Fake Science about ''man-made global warming'', that is apparently only generated in the US.  Not this typical divisive garbage with the true goal of more power and more wealth transferred to the anti-US, anti-liberty, anti-capitalist ''progressive'' ''green mafia'' globalists - but actual non-ideological environmental protections.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on June 01, 2017, 05:19:22 PM

You have an amazingly quick grasp of the patently obvious.  Comey is as dirty as the the day is long.  Brennen is an Obama butt boy and a convert to Islam.  Remember, you heard it here first.

You'd better got on the phone and dial them in for perjury. Its your patriotic duty. Trump is even more patriotic because he told a foreign president where two subs were parked, and the Russians classified info from an informant in deep cover, but not Israeli!!!

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on June 01, 2017, 06:19:35 PM
If anything, we should be talking about binding pollution and environmental safeguards, for everyone.  Specific actions, not this Fake Science about ''man-made global warming'', that is apparently only generated in the US.  Not this typical divisive garbage with the true goal of more power and more wealth transferred to the anti-US, anti-liberty, anti-capitalist ''progressive'' ''green mafia'' globalists - but actual non-ideological environmental protections.

You need to move onto xanax now. The other stuff isn't working. Seriously. You and Trump and the other hard of thinking seriously believe that a 195 countries that signed up are doing it to spite the USA? Fucking paranoia beyond belief. Essentially Trump has pandered to fewer than 100000 people in jobs that are declining naturally, and won't increase. Ever. Even the existing coal industry accepts it isn't going to be recruiting or having major investment again.

Up All Night

Next Trump Announcement (That I would Hope for...)

"Today, I have issued a 30 Day eviction notice to all tenants of the UN Plaza. You never paid your fair share anyway. So, go and be a deadbeat somewhere else, but not, here in the United States of America."

With my family's expertise, the UN Plaza will be renovated into a wonderful Hotel!! It will be fantastic !!!!   ;D  ;D  ;D

albrecht

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on June 01, 2017, 06:19:35 PM
If anything, we should be talking about binding pollution and environmental safeguards, for everyone.  Specific actions, not this Fake Science about ''man-made global warming'', that is apparently only generated in the US.  Not this typical divisive garbage with the true goal of more power and more wealth transferred to the anti-US, anti-liberty, anti-capitalist ''progressive'' ''green mafia'' globalists - but actual non-ideological environmental protections.
Exactly. Deal with real problems that we could possibly agree on and prevent. Over-fishing, heavy metals, nuclear storage, poaching and the trade in endangered animals, recycling, human migration/immigration, and so on. There are existing ones of some but could be better. And use capitalism, marketing, and trade to make money, help the environment, and be good for share-holders. Instead of Hollywood types and globalist bureaucrats and millionaires telling everyone what to do, or trying to make another financial bubble to exploit, let the market, countries, and people fix the real problems.

Not these "non-binding" agreements over ridiculous things like CO2 and "warming" that exist mainly so that certain bureaucrats and Hollywood celebs can get on their private jets to enjoy meetings and fine dining.

Lilith

Well,  Styx has a few opinions to share:


https://youtu.be/QOFhpoDY0As

Covfefe Styx!

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