Started by anagrammy, January 29, 2011, 12:56:45 PM
Quote from: anagrammy on February 22, 2011, 09:44:51 PMAnd for your amusement in the center ring, ladies and gentlemen, we have Mormons themselves speculating on why they are considered "Scientology Lite." Don't take my word, for it, see the bearded lady for yourself. NOTE: the article this links you to has an interesting vibe, but the real wowza is the takeover of the religion by corporation sole--click on the cleanshaven, missionary-dressed Jesus.http://puremormonism.blogspot.com/2010/08/why-dont-they-like-us.htmlAnagrammyPS Aldous and b_dubb, you will love this!
Quote from: onan on February 20, 2011, 07:43:03 PMthanks for the concern... no, just a series of surgeries to fix my trachea... due to a surgery many years ago because I was intubated too tightly my trachea has narrowed to the diameter less than a straw... blehyeah will be fine just a pain in the neck (literally) and recovery
Quote from: anagrammy on February 22, 2011, 09:44:51 PMthe real wowza is the takeover of the religion by corporation sole--click on the cleanshaven, missionary-dressed Jesus.http://puremormonism.blogspot.com/2010/08/why-dont-they-like-us.html
Quote from: aldousburbank on February 23, 2011, 07:27:49 AM
Quote from: Michael V. on February 24, 2011, 12:46:23 AMa haircut and a real job.
Quote from: Do you think it was angels? on February 19, 2011, 02:22:55 PMApples to apples, man! Compare everything that's been done in Jesus' name, to everything that's been done in Mohammed's name. You won't find too much difference then.
Quote from: Blue Stones on March 07, 2011, 08:51:11 PMAnagrammy - Blue Stones here--feel you are noodl'n on Coast Gab
Quote from: anagrammy on March 26, 2011, 02:21:32 PMThe new PR firm the LDS, Inc. hired is going for the google-ad approach, so the internet is saturated with mini-bios of admirable, normal people with the following statement following each: "...and I'm a Mormon!"
Quote from: The General on March 26, 2011, 03:17:07 PM Maybe the problem is that there is no centralized Muslim authority like with the LDS religion.
Quote from: onan on March 26, 2011, 08:14:52 PM Maybe the problem is religion.
Quote from: b_dubb on March 27, 2011, 04:36:17 PMreligion sets believers up for self-aggrandizement. which creates conflict with non-believers. which creates conflict. and that's why religion is the problemyou're welcome
Quote from: anagrammy on March 27, 2011, 02:33:56 PMReligion gives people an excuse to do bad things, General, that they would never do based on individual conscience. History is replete with such examples and the "Good" Book honors people who follow command voices in their heads to kill people, i.e, Abraham, but then was tricking him because he (God) grabbed his arm and stopped him, providing an animal instead. You see, the all-seeing, all-knowing God needs to test people's faithfulness instead of just looking in their heart, like a proper all-knowing God should and as we are told he does to the faithful this very day, because he lives in their hearts, as well as in all the universe.The fact...FACT, General... that evil men have used religion to kill, torture, rape and enslave might give you a clue. It has gone on in the past and is going on right now. Hopefully, if there is no Diety to reward with unlimited virgins in the next life, murder-for-the-good-of-all might be despised worldwide and the word "martyr" (at least in the religious sense) would cease to be. The world would be a safer place.Anagrammy
Quote from: anagrammy on March 27, 2011, 08:07:33 PMAggressive godlessness and persecution of the god-believing is religion, is it not? I consider the stance of Communism against God to be God-centered, therefore, a religion of belief in the state as Supreme.Does that make sense to you, General?Anagrammy
Quote from: onan on March 27, 2011, 08:15:19 PMI am not saying religion is the root of all bad things. I am saying religion creates a sense of moral superiority. Hence, jihads, stoning women, clitirectomies, hence burning at the stake, hence no dancing.
Quote from: The General on March 27, 2011, 08:47:52 PMOk, but, I would consider it statism, but I guess it's just semantics at this point.I much prefer naming things by their proper name.Interesting point though. Yeah, it's a big problem. I agree. But people would do it regardless of religion eventually is all I'm saying.Religion properly done should create a sense of humility and compassion. Unfortunately it doesn't happen often enough. My personal problem with religion is that I can't bring myself to believe in fairy tales about immaculate conception and such. I really kind of wish that I could. I think it can really be a force for good in people's lives if properly done. More so than secularism I would like to think.
Quote from: onan on March 27, 2011, 08:57:50 PM To me, well, I just do not know... I pretty much think I am right. Belief in any god is delusional. The only reason people are not treated for that delusion is, it is commonplace. But when any person of the cloth can tell me the difference between religion and fantasy I will reconsider my position.
Quote from: anagrammy on March 28, 2011, 08:24:16 PMYou make an extremely interesting point with this comment, Onan. Last year when the Elizabeth Smart trial was FINALLY on, after eight years of postponement, the issue came up that they could not claim insanity and get him off because the things he was asserting are all part of the Mormon religion: *thinks he speaks for god and has been chosen (they have one too)*thinks he hears voices (their prophet is called "prophet, seer and revelator and they believe their religion is superior because they have modern revelation, i.e., voice of god to his people in modern times, liketh in days of olde.)*believes he has a right to follow god's auditory command hallucinations even if its against the law (they believe in polygamy and consider it necessary for salvation D&C 132, however, they don't practice it just because it's illegal)*believes god's laws are superior to man's laws (i.e., their religious beliefs vs. the law of the land got them in tons of trouble for lying about polygamy)What's so intriguing about all of this is the fact that one set of beliefs where it's commonplace, is perfectly fine. But in another culture, it's diagnosable insanity. For example, imagine Christianity being described to a Tibetan monk this way: "The Western practitioner believes in a Supreme Being who is a triad god composed of three people: God1, a spirit; God2, his son a man; and God3, a spirit like the wind. The second god's flesh and blood are ritually consumed after the revealing of character shortcomings called "sins" and ritual acts applied for the atonement of those sins to God1."Anagrammy