Random stupid things on your mind. Post them.

[Hog]

Very interesting piece of history declassified recently. The dogfight between two F-14 Tomcats and two Lybian MIG-23 Floggers. This took place in 1989. I remember it well.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIUowqD0uY8

That video has been out for quite some time.   At least a few years.

"Shoot him, shoot him!"
"I cant get a fuckin tone!"

peace
Hog

[popple]

[Camazotz Automat]

[pate]

Was meditating earlier and the universal voice said something. 

I heard:

"...I'm finger-f***ing my own ice-bin..."

Not Sure at this point, what difference that makes.

[CornyCrow]

http://nypost.com/2015/12/10/el-chapo-tells-isis-his-men-will-destroy-them/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=NY%2520Post%2520Newsletter&utm_source=Sailthru

El Chapo/ aka Carlos Lehder / aka Joaquin Guzman (likes the nickname 'Joe') tells ISIS his men will destroy them. 

I keep asking the question that no one answers - if Joe was found guilty and sentenced in a US court, how did he end up in a Mexican prison, especially when he had escaped from one previously? 

[Yorkshire pud]

http://nypost.com/2015/12/10/el-chapo-tells-isis-his-men-will-destroy-them/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=NY%2520Post%2520Newsletter&utm_source=Sailthru

El Chapo/ aka Carlos Lehder / aka Joaquin Guzman (likes the nickname 'Joe') tells ISIS his men will destroy them. 

I keep asking the question that no one answers - if Joe was found guilty and sentenced in a US court, how did he end up in a Mexican prison, especially when he had escaped from one previously?

Because of magic. Seriously.

[CornyCrow]

Because of magic. Seriously.

Santoria or that Santa Muerte? 

I have NOTHING to back this, but it does lead to speculation that there is/was some cooperation with the US government - maybe in the drug trade with the CIA?  Something he keeps his mouth shut about for favors.

This guy is interesting.  I read that he at one time saw himself as the leader of first, his Colombia, and then South America.  He once had mucho Hitler paraphernalia in his house, having admiration for the man.   

[albrecht]

http://nypost.com/2015/12/10/el-chapo-tells-isis-his-men-will-destroy-them/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=NY%2520Post%2520Newsletter&utm_source=Sailthru

El Chapo/ aka Carlos Lehder / aka Joaquin Guzman (likes the nickname 'Joe') tells ISIS his men will destroy them. 

I keep asking the question that no one answers - if Joe was found guilty and sentenced in a US court, how did he end up in a Mexican prison, especially when he had escaped from one previously?

I think he was convicted and imprisoned, at various points, in Mexican courts and prisons (and escaped and currently at-large.) He has been indicted here in the States but never extradited (yet.) Interesting that "Shorty" and Trump agree on ISIS but "Shorty" has also placed a bounty on Trump's head due to his statements about illegals.

[CornyCrow]

I read a bit about El Chapo, and the book ended with a US conviction and a very long sentence, maybe life.  Next I know, the papers are talking about him escaping from a Mexican prison.  I'm naturally suspicious. 

We know the feds are mixed up in the drug trade, and have been for a long time.  I remember, when I was a kid, believing in America - that we stood for all that was good and holy - blacks in ghettos were SCREAMING that the government (CIA) was bringing drugs into their neighborhoods and getting their kids addicted.  I thought they must be mad.  Then, later on, I see these clips of military plane crashes with drugs spilled out from the planes at the crash sites. 

Then, there was Kennedy, wanting to federalize the Fed Reserve and disband the CIA - shot. 

I don't censor my thoughts from going certain places the way I used to when I was young and trusting.

[albrecht]

I read a bit about El Chapo, and the book ended with a US conviction and a very long sentence, maybe life.  Next I know, the papers are talking about him escaping from a Mexican prison.  I'm naturally suspicious. 

We know the feds are mixed up in the drug trade, and have been for a long time.  I remember, when I was a kid, believing in America - that we stood for all that was good and holy - blacks in ghettos were SCREAMING that the government (CIA) was bringing drugs into their neighborhoods and getting their kids addicted.  I thought they must be mad.  Then, later on, I see these clips of military plane crashes with drugs spilled out from the planes at the crash sites. 

Then, there was Kennedy, wanting to federalize the Fed Reserve and disband the CIA - shot. 

I don't censor my thoughts from going certain places the way I used to when I was young and trusting.

I've never heard of him being in a US prison. I've heard some say, with some documentation or claims from others in the "business," that El Chapo was an informant (at least partially) on other cartels/people to the Mexican government and then DEA as a way (for him) to aggrandize his control and for the Mexicans/USA make arrests for the news (and, in theory, less violence because a single group in control.) Not sure how much of it is true but I suspect some of it. I'm not sure of the grand conspiracy but there is so much money in drugs, the money is black, that I think some of it is true. Certainly on individual and small conspiracy levels. Whole governments or whole chain-of-command in military and police departments here? Idk.
ps: what amazes me is that the world is focused on ISIS but various Cartels have been beheading, making soup, burning alive, torturing, etc people here for quite sometime and they are right across on open-border.

[CornyCrow]

You're right.  They have picked up students in Mexico and authorities found body parts in vats of water, having been boiled.  There was a book I read by a couple of cops in the US.  They said some drug gang would kidnap a white person to use in a ritual that would protect them from gringos when they crossed the border with their drugs. 

When the place was found, in the desert, where they did these rituals on the captives, the Mexican police would not go near the place because the vibes were so bad.  The US cops felt it, too.  They just ended up setting it all aflame. 

I think our government, because of the polling done, believes it would not be all that difficult to turn many 'everyday' Muslims into terrorists, so they don't want public opinion being stacked against them. That's fine, but there are aspects of the interpretations of the Koran that must be changed, as we have done over time with the Bible.  Kids cannot get the idea that brutality is right.     

[albrecht]

You're right.  They have picked up students in Mexico and authorities found body parts in vats of water, having been boiled.  There was a book I read by a couple of cops in the US.  They said some drug gang would kidnap a white person to use in a ritual that would protect them from gringos when they crossed the border with their drugs. 

When the place was found, in the desert, where they did these rituals on the captives, the Mexican police would not go near the place because the vibes were so bad.  The US cops felt it, too.  They just ended up setting it all aflame. 

I think our government, because of the polling done, believes it would not be all that difficult to turn many 'everyday' Muslims into terrorists, so they don't want public opinion being stacked against them. That's fine, but there are aspects of the interpretations of the Koran that must be changed, as we have done over time with the Bible.  Kids cannot get the idea that brutality is right.   

Kids in ISIS etc and in Mexico/Guatamala/Honduras (and some parts of Africa) are being specifically raised from youth to be killers, torturers, and child "soliders." And our government's response is to have an unsecured, open border and/or take them in as "refugees" and talk about respect for other cultures, religions, etc. When a culture or religion is a death-cult, corrupt, or abusive it doesn't deserve our respect- much less encouraging them to move here.

[CornyCrow]

Kids in ISIS etc and in Mexico/Guatamala/Honduras (and some parts of Africa) are being specifically raised from youth to be killers, torturers, and child "soliders." And our government's response is to have an unsecured, open border and/or take them in as "refugees" and talk about respect for other cultures, religions, etc. When a culture or religion is a death-cult, corrupt, or abusive it doesn't deserve our respect- much less encouraging them to move here.

Well, we should not have open borders and certain people should be vetted more thoroughly.  I have mixed feelings on this. 

[albrecht]

Well, we should not have open borders and certain people should be vetted more thoroughly.  I have mixed feelings on this.

I have some mixed feelings also (when you build fences they can hold people IN as effectively as keeping people out) and the threat, real and imagined, is often used as an excuse for more government spending and aggrandizement/power. And of course one has sympathies for real "refugees." Having said that IF a government had even the most basic goal of "national security" their borders, and those allowed to come there, would be secured, checked, and vetted (and even tracked in some circumstance- like those on special VISAs.) We spend trillions over the years defending borders in other countries (like Korea) or water-ways. But not our own? That alone causes me to be suspect.

[CornyCrow]

Yes, then I suppose the problem is that few of us trust the government.  I don't think that changes much regardless of the administration.  There are some things that both parties seem to push for, regardless of the campaigning.

[popple]

Canadian taxi drivers and uber drivers are at war


https://youtu.be/B7zXoSY1R6s

[whoozit]

Recent events have reminded me why I usually stay away from social media.  It generally brings out the worst in folks.

[whoozit]

This seems to remind me of something...

[NefariousBanana]

Art Bell is gone, Bengals lose.  This is just a shit weekend.

[popple]

[CornyCrow]

Hey!  Take this very short quiz from the BBC. 

Find out how bad your dark side is.

I would imagine that many on this board would score high - maybe Art would, too.

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20151123-how-dark-is-your-personality

I just found out that my husband is nefarious - I'll never let him forget it (Ha).   But, of course, I'm perfect. 

[popple]

[pate]

Thank FSM* for the Abercombie & Fitch Winter/Holiday catalogue, dogs just chewed up a throw pillow I bought from them more than a decade ago...

Thanks, Santa!

ediot: *=Flying Spaghetti Monster

[pate]

That video has been out for quite some time.   At least a few years.

"Shoot him, shoot him!"
"I cant get a fuckin tone!"

peace
Hog

I for one distinctly heard the "ohm" in that one... 

Not Sure.

[pate]

... if Joe was found guilty and sentenced in a US court, how did he end up in a Mexican prison ...

Majic 8-ball sez:

Axe(tm_) again later?

[pate]

...2000,2004,2008,2012,2016 why vote for the lesser evil?

Had a youtube video in my sleeping head, but done forgot it for the moment, Stand By...

[BobGrau]

That 'star wars' ad campaign has been so successful, I hear they're making a movie out of it  :

[pate]

"... they dishonor themselves ..."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzfXnEplq8k

[zeebo]

That 'star wars' ad campaign has been so successful, I hear they're making a movie out of it  :

Aparrently it takes place in this bitchin universe with verizon phones and subway sammiches.

[pate]

Too much brane-fu simulates haiku...

I mis-spelt sumtheen.

Another drank, perhaps?