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Midnight In The Desert

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GravitySucks

Quote from: Robert on January 25, 2016, 11:54:47 PM
Memory of how to move in a way that works in your dreams, sure.  But that's not the same as a memory of how to move when you're awake.

I'm not saying you can learn a new skill, but you can reinforce the ones you know... Well unless you want to fly. That you can learn, you just can't do it in real life.

Chronaut

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 25, 2016, 11:45:44 PM
micro-singularities?  ???

Nonono...just sources of localized standing gravitational radiation, if we apply GR to QM, which seems legit in this context.

Robert

Whenever I solve a supposed real-world problem in a dream (not a lucid one, doesn't seem like it'd make a difference), when I wake up I realize it's ridiculous.

Chronaut

Quote from: Juan Cena on January 25, 2016, 11:42:11 PM
The gov. trying to screw with black scientists? That's just wrong.

Haha   ;D

GravitySucks

Quote from: Robert on January 25, 2016, 11:56:50 PM
Whenever I solve a supposed real-world problem in a dream (not a lucid one, doesn't seem like it'd make a difference), when I wake up I realize it's ridiculous.

Does that happen to you often when you're awake? 

Robert

Quote from: GravitySucks on January 25, 2016, 11:56:13 PMI'm not saying you can learn a new skill, but you can reinforce the ones you know... Well unless you want to fly. That you can learn, you just can't do it in real life.
Ordin'ry flying, or flying in an aeroplane?

Curandero81

Quote from: Robert on January 25, 2016, 11:54:47 PM
Memory of how to move in a way that works in your dreams, sure.  But that's not the same as a memory of how to move when you're awake.
Mr Ed says it does work !
ask the engineer from washington...oh, he died.
ask heather instead


Robert

Quote from: GravitySucks on January 25, 2016, 11:58:08 PM
QuoteWhenever I solve a supposed real-world problem in a dream (not a lucid one, doesn't seem like it'd make a difference), when I wake up I realize it's ridiculous.
Does that happen to you often when you're awake?
Not as often as when I'm sleeping, but often enough to be vexing.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Chronaut on January 25, 2016, 11:53:04 PM
I'm not sure what you're talking about.  Area 51 is a real base with real experimental aircraft and research programs.  But I don't think Lazar's UFO claims are real.  That part of his story makes for a brilliant dispersal system though - that's how they got the payload info about 115 out to everybody.  People don't give our intelligence agencies enough credit:  those fuckers are really clever/sneaky.

There's a video that goes along with the story Knapp broke that Lazar and his friend shot showing vehicles performing aerial feats as yet unseen  ;)

Taco Bell

The messed up thing about dreaming is not remembering anything at all. I probably only remember dreaming two or three times a month.

Chronaut

Quote from: GravitySucks on January 25, 2016, 11:56:13 PM
I'm not saying you can learn a new skill, but you can reinforce the ones you know... Well unless you want to fly. That you can learn, you just can't do it in real life.

There are a few tantalizing historical cases that suggest that it can be done in 4D reality.  Seems far-fetched, but every time I've said "impossible" somebody proves me wrong.

GravitySucks

Quote from: Robert on January 25, 2016, 11:59:59 PM
Does that happen to you often when you're awake?
Not as often as when I'm sleeping, but often enough to be vexing.
😎



Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Taco Bell on January 26, 2016, 12:00:11 AM
The messed up thing about dreaming is not remembering anything at all. I probably only remember dreaming two or three times a month.

Certain medications and substances will interfere with dreaming and dream recall.  ;)

Keeping a dream journal or audio recorder by your bed can help. The more time you spend trying to remember your dreams immediately upon waking the more you will start to remember and dream more.  ;) ;)

GravitySucks

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 26, 2016, 12:02:33 AM
Certain medications and substances will interfere with dreaming and dream recall.  ;)

Any THC and I can't remember a dream. Without it can I lucid dream and remember them about 30% of the time.

Robert

Quote from: Taco Bell on January 26, 2016, 12:00:11 AMThe messed up thing about dreaming is not remembering anything at all. I probably only remember dreaming two or three times a month.
I remember a lot more than that at 1st.  But after a month, I doubt I could remember that many on avg., because by a few hrs. after I wake up, I've forgotten, even if I thought it was a bit interesting initially.  The dream usu. doesn't have enough applicability to waking life to be memorable long term.  And I've found it really easy to bore people by telling them my dreams.  Their dreams seem to make more sense than mine; maybe they confabulate more realistic details after the fact.

akwilly

if I take melatonin I dream crazy stuff. Very lucid.

Chronaut

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 26, 2016, 12:00:00 AM
There's a video that goes along with the story Knapp broke that Lazar and his friend shot showing vehicles performing aerial feats as yet unseen  ;)

Oh yeah - the Leer trip to the scheduled sighting over the base.  That was good stuff - those boys have some amazing shit out there.  Probably magnetoaerodynamic test rigs; drones I'd guess.  Terrestrial though, by all outward appearances.  Gravity field propulsion eliminates inertia; those craft didn't exhibit that distinctive flight characteristic.  Lazar probably coordinated those demonstrations with his handlers to show those off to help sell his story to the press.

Taco Bell

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 26, 2016, 12:02:33 AM
Certain medications and substances will interfere with dreaming and dream recall.  ;)

Heard that, but I'm on zero meds and usually only drink once a week. I think when I shut my eyes I hit a deep sleep right away.

GravitySucks

Quote from: Robert on January 26, 2016, 12:04:41 AM
I remember a lot more than that at 1st.  But after a month, I doubt I could remember that many on avg., because by a few hrs. after I wake up, I've forgotten, even if I thought it was a bit interesting initially.  The dream usu. doesn't have enough applicability to waking life to be memorable long term.  And I've found it really easy to bore people by telling them my dreams.  Their dreams seem to make more sense than mine; maybe they confabulate more realistic details after the fact.
Keep a note pad by jour bed and write down the highlights while you remember them.

Robert

Quote from: akwilly on January 26, 2016, 12:05:20 AMif I take melatonin I dream crazy stuff. Very lucid.
What's a trip at night, for a few nights (once you can get to sleep at all), is withdrawal from tramadol.  Actually it's a trip during daytime too.

Is Heather fucking trolling us?

Referencing Voyager as her favorite, and the worst character of all the series, Chakotay.

Ciardelo

Quote from: GravitySucks on January 26, 2016, 12:05:58 AM
Keep a note pad by jour bed and write down the highlights while you remember them.
My dreams fade pretty quickly. That's something I need to start doing.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Taco Bell on January 26, 2016, 12:05:49 AM
Heard that, but I'm on zero meds and usually only drink once a week. I think when I shut my eyes I hit a deep sleep right away.

I find sometimes even minor deviations in your routine close to bedtime can sometimes fuel dreams. Some people find eating some spicy food before lying down can sometimes help. Someone else here mentioned melatonin. Personally, I hate the way that stuff makes me feel but whatever works for you. Experiment!  ;)

Chronaut

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 25, 2016, 11:49:55 PM
You know, in spite of everything I now know about them and him, I'd still recommend them. They're excellent books....the first 3-6, anyway.

I agree.  As long as people know they're fiction, and that some of the techniques were stolen from real occult sources, they can be both entertaining and useful.

GravitySucks

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 26, 2016, 12:10:48 AM
I find sometimes even minor deviations in your routine close to bedtime can sometimes fuel dreams. Some people find eating some spicy food before lying down can sometimes help. Someone else here mentioned melatonin. Personally, I hate the way that stuff makes me feel but whatever works for you. Experiment!  ;)

If I take melatonin I sleep hard, but if something wakes me up I can't get back to sleep.

Taco Bell

Quote from: Chronaut on January 26, 2016, 12:12:36 AM
I agree.  As long as people know they're fiction, and that some of the techniques were stolen from real occult sources, they can be both entertaining and useful.

Noted.


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