The Other Side of Midnight - Richard C. Hoagland - Live Chat Thread

[maren]

His buddy is a MUFON state director. That says volumes.

Yeah, but he's also chummy with Hoagland, so he can't bel ALL bad.  Maybe.

[GuerrillaUnReal]

Earlier he claimed he left the force on a medical discharge or something to that effect. What's the story?

I think we've agreed on asshat for this rube, but dickbag is good, too.

Hang on, I'll see if I can find it again. But yeah as far as I know, the only credibility this guy has is he sat on old paranormal BBS groups back in the day.

Again I don't know him at all aside from coming across him in a few instances but he just strikes me as a major dickbag.

[Pumamama]

My bet would be that Snoory would be a guest before she is

Why? Pardon my ignorance.

[Bradsmith313]

His buddy is a MUFON state director. That says volumes.

What's wrong with MUFON? I know of some really good work done by MUFON investigators. Some of them did a great job of taking down Jaime Massaun a few years ago . . . .

[WanagoBleu]

Night all.

[Ward]

Earlier he claimed he left the force on a medical discharge or something to that effect. What's the story?

I think we've agreed on asshat for this rube, but dickbag is good, too.

Pumamama you are really off base here dude. Don's history is well documented, he has two puprle hearts, was in Army Intelligence, Police investigator. He is the real deal. 20 something years as directory of research of UFO magazine. He even had his show UFO's tonight years before Art was on the air.

[Pumamama]

While we're discussing guests, I think topic is David Paulides territory.

[GuerrillaUnReal]

Who is Donald Francis Ecker III?

Donald Francis Ecker III was never a police officer. He never worked for, or retired from, any police force whatsoever at any time whatsoever. He never worked as a criminal investigator for the State of Idaho or any other State or government agency. Donald Francis Ecker III was never an Army officer, never worked in Army Intelligence G-2, was never in Army Special Forces, never fought in Vietnam.

Donald Francis Ecker III held the lowest ranked position as a prison guard at the Idaho State Prison. He never received a promotion in all the time he was a prison guard. Ecker quit to accept a position as Narcotics Deputy Trainee with the Canyon County, Idaho Sheriff's Department. He never finished his training and never became a real deputy. Ecker was fired for cause after repeated incidents of drunkenness threatening patrons and bartenders with arrest in Canyon County Bars.

Out of a job he returned to the Idaho State Prison once again as the lowest ranked prison guard. During a training excercise where he was supposed to have an empty weapon he shot his own leg off and that was the end of Donald Francis Ecker III's law enforcement career. He returned to being a drunk, (Ecker is a chronic alcoholic) was awarded three DWI (driving while intoxicated) tickets. He was awaiting trial on the third ticket and would have gone to jail as there is no lesser penalty in Idaho for a third DWI offense. During his wait for trial Donald Francis Ecker III, during a drunken rage, beat his girlfriend. She filed formal criminal charges against him.

Ecker, knowing he was going to go to prison, fled Idaho. He went to L.A. and took up with Vicki Cooper. He romanced her and she made him the Research Director for UFO Magazine. They later married. For several years there were two warrants outstanding in the State of Idaho for the arrest of Donald Francis Ecker III. One for assault and battery. And the other for failure to appear for trial for his third DWI.

During their reign as king and queen of UFO disinformation a web search produced at least a hundred sites containing reference to them or something they had written. Shortly after this information was posted to this web page Donald Francis Ecker III and his wife Vicki (Cooper) Ecker disappeared from the UFO scene. UFO magazine disappeared. And most curious a web search for either name produced next to nothing for 3 years.

[Ward]

Hang on, I'll see if I can find it again. But yeah as far as I know, the only credibility this guy has is he sat on old paranormal BBS groups back in the day.

Again I don't know him at all aside from coming across him in a few instances but he just strikes me as a major dickbag.

yeah you don't know him at all, that's for sure.

[Pumamama]

Pumamama you are really off base here dude. Don's history is well documented, he has two puprle hearts, was in Army Intelligence, Police investigator. He is the real deal. 20 something years as directory of research of UFO magazine. He even had his show UFO's tonight years before Art was on the air.

He's revealed his poor character by what he's said, how he's said it, and by other actions he has taken. Your argument from authority fails.

Your turn, buddy.

[Ward]

are you F--ing serious? sounds like a s--tload of Bill Cooper crap. Copper had it out for Decker because he exposed what a fraud Copper was.

[Pumamama]

yeah you don't know him at all, that's for sure.

Well?   



Cat got your tongue?

[Ward]

He's revealed his poor character by what he's said, how he's said it, and by other actions he has taken. Your argument from authority fails.

Your turn, buddy.

what did he say that showed his poor character? do tell little "Buddy"

[bstuart]

I found photographic evidence in my photoshop to support this guest's story!

[Pumamama]

Re  the bio Quimby posted of the guest:

Thank you. Very helpful & informative. What is the source, please?

[Bradsmith313]

Pumamama you are really off base here dude. Don's history is well documented, he has two puprle hearts, was in Army Intelligence, Police investigator. He is the real deal. 20 something years as directory of research of UFO magazine. He even had his show UFO's tonight years before Art was on the air.

Just because he won some medals and the military/police experience excludes him from being an asshat? I loved UFO Magazine too. But, if the guy acts like an asshat he's an asshat. So what if he was in the military or  a cop. Doesn't give him a pass.

[BellBoy]

I found photographic evidence in my photoshop to support this guest's story!

Just look at the GEOMETRY!

19.5

[pate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JjJzMBGUwo

[Pumamama]

what did he say that showed his poor character? do tell little "Buddy"

Uh-huh.     Clearly it's past your bedtime, honey. School day! Off to bed with you, child.

[trostol]

some how i do not see them .."running" out at him lol

[norland2424]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JjJzMBGUwo

one of my fav scenes 

[Bradsmith313]

some how i do not see them .."running" out at him lol

I would love to hear Streiber's side of the story -- if it ever happened.

[Ward]

Just because he won some medals and the military/police experience excludes him from being an asshat? I loved UFO Magazine too. But, if the guy acts like an asshat he's an asshat. So what if he was in the military or  a cop. Doesn't give him a pass.

again how has Don acted like an "asshat" tonight? guess i am hearing a completely different interview. Please give examples.

RCH and Don are hitting it out of the park, i am really enjoying this interview.

[BellBoy]

one of my fav scenes 

...of any film, ever 

[GuerrillaUnReal]

Re  the bio Quimby posted of the guest:

Thank you. Very helpful & informative. What is the source, please?

That was from William Cooper's website lol. Here's Ecker's response

This is the biggest crock of horseshit out there. This mish-mash of disinformation came from Milton Wm. "Bill" Cooper after I began my expose of him.

To begin with, I am a disabled Vietnam veteran after being wounded twice in combat. I am the former commander of the Audie Murphy chapter, Military Order of the Purple Heart. Just one example of Coopers incorrect information. My name is NOT Donald Francis Ecker III, not even close. Pretty shoddy research from Cooper's sterling information. My wife NEVER lived back east, the entire bullshit about being an employee of Sidney B. Barrows is complete horseshit. And if you said it to my face I would bust your chops.

Cooper would manufacture information as needed to smear and attempt to hurt his critics. He had a terrible temper enhanced by chronic alcohol abuse, and while living in Southern California was repeatedly visited by municipal police for loud drunken outbursts and abuse of his Asian wife, Annie.

I conducted the first expose on this turd in 1990 after he turned on his "two good buddies" John Lear and Bob Lazar. Lear relayed an incident where Cooper lied thru his teeth on a TV show about the O.H. Krill name and information, claiming to have seen it back in 1972-73 while he was supposedly part of the Pacific briefing team. That was impossible since this document had been written by John Lear and John Grace within the previous year or so. Cooper was enraged and then accused Lear and Lazar of "drug manufacturing" in a public posting. Lazar had a "speed shop" where he worked on his jet cars and Cooper tried to use "speed shop" to make a drug connection. I began my investigation on Cooper then.

Now, if anyone cares to ever confront me face to face with this Cooper bullshit, I will be happy to demonstrate my military and law enforcement skills.

[pate]

"... hmm ... highlights ... procedure ..."

[BellBoy]

again how has Don acted like an "asshat" tonight? guess i am hearing a completely different interview. Please give examples.

RCH and Don are hitting it out of the park, i am really enjoying this interview.

You sound like this ass-hat's publicist  :

[Ward]

...of any film, ever 

It is the best film ever made. My generation Casablanca.

[norland2424]

again how has Don acted like an "asshat" tonight? guess i am hearing a completely different interview. Please give examples.

RCH and Don are hitting it out of the park, i am really enjoying this interview.

i think everyone got butt hurt at his Obama comment

[pate]

If:then;Nuts:bolts.