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Grand Jury decision in "Gentle Giant" or "Thug" police killing made.

Started by albrecht, November 24, 2014, 03:54:13 PM

paladin1991

Quote from: VtaGeezer on December 04, 2014, 06:10:24 PM
She wasn't expecting her choice of words to be parsed by bigots.  Young black men in America have to be ready to grovel for too many cops.  Your male black friends can probably recount a bad police encounter.
You assume, Sir, that all the players in this game have black friends.....that they aren't afraid of.

paladin1991

Quote from: Zoo on December 04, 2014, 10:58:40 PM
I am not the only anti-learning person on this site. I have given facts and references and like I said I do not care if I use are or our in the right or wrong spot people still know what I am saying. As for my credibility on this site I think it is the same as everyone elses. Nobody here is a god or a king not even the great and powerful MV so as the credibility goes I will be ok. Now how many people hate me on this site well thats a different story but who really cares!!1


LMFAO you ignorance of the terminology is priceless. Thanks for the laugh and I bid you good day SR!!1
Waitaminute.  Then when MV explained the mandatory donations to be a member of Bellgab.....?

paladin1991

Quote from: Georgie For President 2216 on December 05, 2014, 01:24:38 AM
I think it was pretty clear to the EMTs that he was already dead but they didn't want to alert the crowd.
Afraid of all the black volk?

VtaGeezer

Quote from: paladin1991 on December 05, 2014, 10:39:38 AM
You assume, Sir, that all the players in this game have black friends.....that they aren't afraid of.
I was erring on the side of hope.

albrecht

Quote from: VtaGeezer on December 05, 2014, 11:25:46 AM
I was erring on the side of hope.
you also assume friends. Never a wise thing to do on internet forums. ;)




VtaGeezer

Quote from: b_dubb on December 05, 2014, 01:08:11 PM
http://disinfo.com/2014/12/told-grand-jury-saw-cop-shoot-kill-unarmed-man-didnt-indict/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+disinfo%2FoMPh+%28Disinformation%29
Local grand juries are functionally an arm of law enforcement.  Expecting a GJ to give an unbiased decision on a cop is as unrealistic as having police depts judge their own shooting incidents.  Each state should establish a special investigator function for police killings and perhaps police shootings and no officials from the county involved should be allowed to participate.

albrecht

Quote from: b_dubb on December 05, 2014, 01:08:11 PM
http://disinfo.com/2014/12/told-grand-jury-saw-cop-shoot-kill-unarmed-man-didnt-indict/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+disinfo%2FoMPh+%28Disinformation%29
If true, a sad tale. But the article, if one can call it that, had no information: no dates, names of individuals involved (police, victim, witness(es), specific location, docket number, grand jury summons paperwork, badge numbers, etc. Highly suspect in a piece of "journalism."

By the way, Grand Juries, where they still have them, have a lot of power BUT the prosecutor/judge and system doesn't let grand jury members know this. They don't have to abide by the judge, really. They can issue subpoenas, investigate on their own, bring indictments even if the prosecutor makes it seem they shouldn't, etc. This used to be more common and grand jury members should exercise their power more often.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2005/09/whats_a_runaway_grand_jury.html
Likewise even normal juries have more power than most realize. (Mention this during voir dire and you will be guaranteed not to serve on a jury.) They can also find on the law and NULLIFY. A traditional centuries old and still can be done (but judges will admonish you not too and the "law" and "court rulings" go back and forth on this.) But there is a long precedent for it.

Gd5150

Quote from: b_dubb on December 05, 2014, 01:08:11 PM
http://disinfo.com/2014/12/told-grand-jury-saw-cop-shoot-kill-unarmed-man-didnt-indict/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+disinfo%2FoMPh+%28Disinformation%29


Nice article. Lets assume this hearsay is true. And lets assume despite ALL the evidence, Wilson actually killed the "gentle giant" simply because he was black. And lets assume all cops are racists and evil like the left wants everyone to believe. What is your solution? Get rid of police? Let the inner city thugs police themselves? Can you say Mogadishu? Progressive libtards never have anything to offer as far as solutions other than, we need to have a national conversation about why the US is the most evil country in the history of the world. "Do their job" is not a solution. Killing all white men and Republicans is not a solution. Raising taxes to 100% on everyone with a job is not a solution. Other than back seat driving and complaining about results after the fact, liberals never have jackshit to offer. Just whining and street parties disguised at protests that never accomplish anything positive other than giving the libtard media nostalgic delusions.


So the question for all the anti-cop liberals is whats your solution? Feel free to cite an example of where your solution has been successful.



albrecht

Quote from: Gd5150 on December 05, 2014, 01:49:27 PM

Nice article. Lets assume this hearsay is true. And lets assume despite ALL the evidence, Wilson actually killed the "gentle giant" simply because he was black. And lets assume all cops are racists and evil like the left wants everyone to believe. What is your solution? Get rid of police? Let the inner city thugs police themselves? Can you say Mogadishu? Progressive libtards never have anything to offer as far as solutions other than, we need to have a national conversation about why the US is the most evil country in the history of the world. "Do their job" is not a solution. Killing all white men and Republicans is not a solution. Raising taxes to 100% on everyone with a job is not a solution. Other than back seat driving and complaining about results after the fact, liberals never have jackshit to offer. Just whining and street parties disguised at protests that never accomplish anything positive other than giving the libtard media nostalgic delusions.


So the question for all the anti-cop liberals is whats your solution? Feel free to cite an example of where your solution has been successful.
One doesn't need to look to the Dark Continent for examples of lawlessness. Look at situations in our past where we had areas where cops decided, for their own safety or due to "community organizers", not to go to- unless en masse due to a specific incident. Cabrini Green stands out, certain ghetto parts of DC or Detroit or NYC, etc back in the day in 70's and 80s. How safe were the honest law-abiding citizens of color in those areas from the "gentle giants" and "youths?" Currently in Sweden there are some places with immigrants where the cops won't go, usually.
http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=31992
For you Swedes:
http://www.polisen.se/Aktuellt/Rapporter-och-publikationer/Rapporter/Publicerat---Nationellt/Ovriga-rapporterutredningar/Kriminella-natverk-med-stor-paverkan-i-lokalsamhallet/

Zoo

Quote from: Curandero81 on December 05, 2014, 12:27:11 PM
I am unable to reply ? I am new also


Hell do not let that hold you back at all. Say what you feel and feel what you say!!1


Quote from: b_dubb on December 05, 2014, 08:53:56 AM
Zoo ... two things ...
1) No one hates you some of us are just in disbelief that you can't make the distinction
2) Your self aggrandizement.  In your mind somehow you hover over everyone else when it comes to social justice.  Come down from your ivory tower sir.  You're only fooling yourself


In closing .... !!12321099u8001xmYll11090800.211240980flaksfjalsf;p

Well thank you for your opinion. As for the hate not saying it is you just but there's a lot of hate towards me on this forum. I have been told by the moderator. The moderator is fine how I conduct myself on here so that is good enough for me.
As for the hole spelling and grammar thing I have no problem with it. If other do then it looks like their problem not mine. I do not care, if their argument against what i say is spelling and grammar then sweet I am glad that is all they have.
I might and that is wrong if I do. I guess because I hit the streets and get involved and try and make those who have died have a voice. Instead of setting around and talking about it. I guess that is why I act like I do. Maybe because when it comes to police violence I have seen it as well as have it happened to me. I always thought it was passion to trying to make a change for the better. Thanks for your honest opinion!!1





albrecht

Quote from: Zoo on December 05, 2014, 05:02:18 PM

Hell do not let that hold you back at all. Say what you feel and feel what you say!!1
You need to document your law enforcement abuse, as does Mr.Fidget. ;) !3245r3

b_dubb

Quote from: albrecht on December 05, 2014, 01:49:03 PM
If true, a sad tale. But the article, if one can call it that, had no information: no dates, names of individuals involved (police, victim, witness(es), specific location, docket number, grand jury summons paperwork, badge numbers, etc. Highly suspect in a piece of "journalism."

heres the full article

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/12/grand-jury-witness-police-killing-indictment-david-corn


Zoo and his hole stories. God damn it man you are one freaky fucker.

albrecht

Quote from: b_dubb on December 05, 2014, 08:19:59 PM
heres the full article

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/12/grand-jury-witness-police-killing-indictment-david-corn


Zoo and his hole stories. God damn it man you are one freaky fucker.
Yeah, that MJ article is awful. No dates, sources, names, badge numbers, docket numbers, or ANY authentication except some basic location information. Bizarre it could be published really.

Zoo

Quote from: albrecht on December 05, 2014, 06:59:18 PM
You need to document your law enforcement abuse, as does Mr.Fidget. ;) !3245r3


Why nobody reads it anyway... I have documented and referenced a ton on this sight and people reply within seconds so why waste my time putting it up their? Well thats why I really do not waste my time with it anymore!!1

Zoo

Quote from: b_dubb on December 05, 2014, 08:19:59 PM
heres the full article

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/12/grand-jury-witness-police-killing-indictment-david-corn


Zoo and his hole stories. God damn it man you are one freaky fucker.


Well life is not always rainbows and puppies some of us must go through a darker path to get where we are going!!1

albrecht

Quote from: Zoo on December 05, 2014, 09:18:10 PM

Why nobody reads it anyway... I have documented and referenced a ton on this sight and people reply within seconds so why waste my time putting it up their? Well thats why I really do not waste my time with it anymore!!1
Touche'. I guess I missed it. Sorry you don't have your own thread. Would've been better if you were an Art Bell caller classic and then you could post, in one thread, your documents, diatribes, and, maybe, even inventions to cure smoking. Good luck to you. I think it is a better method/plan to befriend (or even co-opt by joining, helping, electing, etc) local law enforcement and local governments,  than wait or plan some revolutionary activity against the Feds or UN etc. Otherwise "top down solutions" to local "trouble makers" will get worse as it feeds into an "us against them" mentality they want to encourage and then local forces and politicians seek out help from others to counter-act it. !2341fe

Eddie Coyle


Zoo

Quote from: albrecht on December 05, 2014, 09:35:17 PM
Touche'. I guess I missed it. Sorry you don't have your own thread. Would've been better if you were an Art Bell caller classic and then you could post, in one thread, your documents, diatribes, and, maybe, even inventions to cure smoking. Good luck to you. I think it is a better method/plan to befriend (or even co-opt by joining, helping, electing, etc) local law enforcement and local governments,  than wait or plan some revolutionary activity against the Feds or UN etc. Otherwise "top down solutions" to local "trouble makers" will get worse as it feeds into an "us against them" mentality they want to encourage and then local forces and politicians seek out help from others to counter-act it. !2341fe


Well I guess I am not that special, can not win them all can we. As for voting and befriending the local law enforcement is in my opinion why we are here. By treating people different it goes against the oath they took. Everyone is suppose to be treated equally. Like you do not see people in three piece suits getting stop and frisked? Well I think we all know why!!1

Quote from: Eddie Coyle on December 05, 2014, 09:51:29 PM
   A clue to your modus operandi that landed you in the can! 8675309

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I said good day Sr!!1

albrecht

Quote from: Zoo on December 05, 2014, 10:49:11 PM

Well I guess I am not that special, can not win them all can we. As for voting and befriending the local law enforcement is in my opinion why we are here. By treating people different it goes against the oath they took. Everyone is suppose to be treated equally. Like you do not see people in three piece suits getting stop and frisked? Well I think we all know why!!1
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I said good day Sr!!1
I understand, to a point. But have you worn a "three piece suite?" Honestly? The last time I did I must admit some discomfort. Vest issue, I admit. Normally don't do the whole deal. Having said that I don't see why dressing appropriately for business, or in maybe your case, for court would hurt!  Or being polite (another thread not necessarily you.) But a good suit of clothes, in court or even for a job interview, might be good. What is so wrong with decorum, politeness, and such? And, baring weather, a nice suit is ok on comfort.

Zoo

Quote from: albrecht on December 05, 2014, 11:24:18 PM
I understand, to a point. But have you worn a "three piece suite?" Honestly? The last time I did I must admit some discomfort. Vest issue, I admit. Normally don't do the whole deal. Having said that I don't see why dressing appropriately for business, or in maybe your case, for court would hurt!  Or being polite (another thread not necessarily you.) But a good suit of clothes, in court or even for a job interview, might be good. What is so wrong with decorum, politeness, and such? And, baring weather, a nice suit is ok on comfort.

I have and it sucks... I think it comes down to this when they start stopping and frisking people on Wall Street things will be equal.

Court and funerals is when I wear suits. You hit it on the head for sure this time :) !!1

b_dubb

Side note: I have been to funerals around here where people show up in shorts and t-shirts. Quasi-feral shit stains. Have some fucking respect and put on a shirt and a tie. Standards people. It's what separates us from animals.

WOTR

Quote from: b_dubb on December 06, 2014, 06:58:19 AM
Side note: I have been to funerals around here where people show up in shorts and t-shirts. Quasi-feral shit stains. Have some fucking respect and put on a shirt and a tie. Standards people. It's what separates us from animals.
I don't know that dressing up in a suit for a funeral is what separates us from animals.  I would say that we have already accomplished that by the time that we take a dead person, drain their fluids and replace them with a chemical cocktail, staple their jaw shut, glue their eyelids closed, stick them in an airtight, metal box and lower it into a concrete vault then mark it with a granite marker.


I know of no other species who does this.  regardless of the dress of the mourners, I would say that nobody is likely to mistake a funeral for the death ritual of an elephant.


On a side note, I agree completely that funerals are not the right place for casual dress.

pate

Apple, meet Orange, let me introduce you to my friend Bananna....

Quote from: pate on December 07, 2014, 02:29:53 AM
Apple, meet Orange, let me introduce you to my friend Bananna....
sounds like a smoothie in the making. amiright?  ;D

VtaGeezer

Quote from: b_dubb on December 06, 2014, 06:58:19 AM
Side note: I have been to funerals around here where people show up in shorts and t-shirts. Quasi-feral shit stains. Have some fucking respect and put on a shirt and a tie. Standards people. It's what separates us from animals.
That's harsh. The "quasi-ferals" were probably looking at you muttering "I bet that old fart's suit is older than me." Besides, the current fashion evolution of men's suit looks like a ventriloquist dummy's outfit.


Last year, I went to the funeral for a lawyer acquaintance. He was a hardcore hockey fan.  All his kids and grandchildren all wore LA Kings jerseys for the funeral service.  If I'd known, I'd have borrowed my son-in-laws Blackhawk jersey.

albrecht

Quote from: VtaGeezer on December 07, 2014, 12:48:46 PM
That's harsh. The "quasi-ferals" were probably looking at you muttering "I bet that old fart's suit is older than me." Besides, the current fashion evolution of men's suit looks like a ventriloquist dummy's outfit.


Last year, I went to the funeral for a lawyer acquaintance. He was a hardcore hockey fan.  All his kids and grandchildren all wore LA Kings jerseys for the funeral service.  If I'd known, I'd have borrowed my son-in-laws Blackhawk jersey.
You should have worn it. A fight at a hockey fan's funeral would be a nice send-off.  ;D I've always had some grudging respect for the Irish types whose wakes devolve into drunken binges, as opposed to our staid and somber affairs.

Quote from: VtaGeezer on December 07, 2014, 12:48:46 PM
That's harsh. The "quasi-ferals" were probably looking at you muttering "I bet that old fart's suit is older than me." Besides, the current fashion evolution of men's suit looks like a ventriloquist dummy's outfit.


Last year, I went to the funeral for a lawyer acquaintance. He was a hardcore hockey fan.  All his kids and grandchildren all wore LA Kings jerseys for the funeral service.  If I'd known, I'd have borrowed my son-in-laws Blackhawk jersey.




Funerals are a macabre relic, leftover from a bygone era. I don`t believe they serve any purpose, and I never attend them.


I strongly suggest folks ensure their corpse will be used for the betterment of science, as I have.

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