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Started by albrecht, November 24, 2014, 03:54:13 PM

albrecht

Quote from: NowhereInTime on March 13, 2015, 04:05:30 PM
The difference is that no one ever does anything to the militia types.  They have all of these perceived wrongs and they try to do stupid shit like declare themselves a "sovereign state" and they try to deny the "authority of the federal government."  Bunch of ass hats.
What country have you been living in? Granted some of the prosecutions ended or convinctions thrown out but lots have stood and there have been LOTS of raids, stand-offs, prosecutions etc of "militias", "sovereigns", "tax resistors" and others of that type. Besides the obvious stuff decades ago with OKC, Randy Weaver, The Order, Elohim City, Covenant, the Sword and the Arm of the Lord,etc etc. And the government, especially under Obama- but even under Bush/Clinton- frequently puts out alerts and proclamations about the dangers of "sovereign citizens", veterans, and home-grown extremists. It was even highlighted at the latest conference Obama's administration had about terrorism (the one where they wouldn't mention Islam.)
http://www.sacurrent.com/Blogs/archives/2015/02/24/republic-of-texas-police-seized-gold-silver-and-cash-during-valentines-day-raid
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8593975.stm
www.texnews.com/1998/texas/rot0620.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_and_Elaine_Brown
http://www.fbi.gov/charlotte/press-releases/2011/defendant-convicted-of-minting-his-own-currency






paladin1991

Quote from: VtaGeezer on March 13, 2015, 04:25:25 PM
You apparently forgot that two of "the militia nutz" from the Bundy business ambushed and killed two Las Vegas cops, and civilian at a Walmart a month later.  It wouldn't surprise me a bit if the Ferguson shooter turned out to be a militia type.


Cop Killing (X2) "Patriot" Jared Miller at Bundy Ranch, 4/2014
didn't the story actually have them being evicted fm the ranch for being nutbagz that the 'militia' types would not tolerate?  I mean, that was before they lit up those coppers, right?

As for the shooter(s), in fergueson,  being a militia type.  Black militia? don't they usually just call them gangs?

NowhereInTime

Quote from: albrecht on March 13, 2015, 04:32:05 PM
What country have you been living in? Granted some of the prosecutions ended or convinctions thrown out but lots have stood and there have been LOTS of raids, stand-offs, prosecutions etc of "militias", "sovereigns", "tax resistors" and others of that type. Besides the obvious stuff decades ago with OKC, Randy Weaver, The Order, Elohim City, Covenant, the Sword and the Arm of the Lord,etc etc. And the government, especially under Obama- but even under Bush/Clinton- frequently puts out alerts and proclamations about the dangers of "sovereign citizens", veterans, and home-grown extremists. It was even highlighted at the latest conference Obama's administration had about terrorism (the one where they wouldn't mention Islam.)
http://www.sacurrent.com/Blogs/archives/2015/02/24/republic-of-texas-police-seized-gold-silver-and-cash-during-valentines-day-raid
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8593975.stm
www.texnews.com/1998/texas/rot0620.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_and_Elaine_Brown
http://www.fbi.gov/charlotte/press-releases/2011/defendant-convicted-of-minting-his-own-currency

I live in a country where black Americans are routinely stopped and frisked but Timothy McVeigh wasn't captured until after he slaughtered innocent men, women and children to express his anti-government outrage.

I live in a country where it took 5 years (after accusing the wrong man) to catch another angry white bomber like Eric Rudolph who felt it was ok to terrorize the Olympics and to bomb abortion clinics, because he was offended by the government. 

I live in a country where Dr. King was routinely surveilled but nobody had any idea about James Earl Ray drawing down on him.

I live in a country where, routinely, pissed off anti-government people form compounds where they feel free to commit craven acts. Do you defend the actions of David (Vernon Howell) Koresh?  Do you really feel the government violated his sovereignty to impregnate 14 year old girls?

I live in a country where Cliven Bundy and a bunch of militia types threatened the Bureau of Land Management agents in charge of enforcing a twenty year old cease and desist order to either pay grazing fees or stop grazing on federal lands.  Armed white people showed up, and the government backed down to avoid further violence; to date Bundy still grazes on federal land.  How is this permissible?

I live in a country see white people everywhere protesting "unfair treatment" and "don't tread on me" but, for the life of me, I can't understand what they're pissed off about?  If you see the cars these people drive to these rallies, you would understand that nobody's really "treading" on them.

And this whole "Republic of Texas" movement?  Yet more pissed off white people who don't like the "brown wave" and want to shoot people.

I hear about violence in Ferguson and its "scumbags" but Bundy (and all of these people) are "patriots"?!?

VtaGeezer

Quote from: paladin1991 on March 13, 2015, 05:03:39 PM
didn't the story actually have them being evicted fm the ranch for being nutbagz that the 'militia' types would not tolerate?  I mean, that was before they lit up those coppers, right?

As for the shooter(s), in fergueson,  being a militia type.  Black militia? don't they usually just call them gangs?


They were there. With the rest of the cracked-pots. They were given money to move on when Jared spilled the beans that he had a felony conviction but was armed. One key militia leader from MT said of them "“We never had a cause to question their patriotism â€" just the manner in which they would prefer to move forward with things â€" that we should be a little more aggressive in our posture.”

Eddie Coyle

Quote from: VtaGeezer on March 13, 2015, 04:25:25 PM
It wouldn't surprise me a bit if the Ferguson shooter turned out to be a militia type.



   And you'll only accept that being who did it as well. Not one of your Ferguson exemplars who end their sentences with "no peace".

   

VtaGeezer

Quote from: Eddie Coyle on March 13, 2015, 06:38:03 PM
   And you'll only accept that being who do it as well. Not one of your Ferguson exemplars who end their sentences with "no peace".
Not at all, EC, I didn't say it was likely; just that it wouldn't surprise me.  And that we have a clear case of fringe rightwingers involved with the Bundy incident who actually did go off the rails and kill two cops. 

albrecht

Quote from: NowhereInTime on March 13, 2015, 05:10:25 PM
I live in a country where black Americans are routinely stopped and frisked but Timothy McVeigh wasn't captured until after he slaughtered innocent men, women and children to express his anti-government outrage.

I live in a country where it took 5 years (after accusing the wrong man) to catch another angry white bomber like Eric Rudolph who felt it was ok to terrorize the Olympics and to bomb abortion clinics, because he was offended by the government. 

I live in a country where Dr. King was routinely surveilled but nobody had any idea about James Earl Ray drawing down on him.

I live in a country where, routinely, pissed off anti-government people form compounds where they feel free to commit craven acts. Do you defend the actions of David (Vernon Howell) Koresh?  Do you really feel the government violated his sovereignty to impregnate 14 year old girls?

I live in a country where Cliven Bundy and a bunch of militia types threatened the Bureau of Land Management agents in charge of enforcing a twenty year old cease and desist order to either pay grazing fees or stop grazing on federal lands.  Armed white people showed up, and the government backed down to avoid further violence; to date Bundy still grazes on federal land.  How is this permissible?

I live in a country see white people everywhere protesting "unfair treatment" and "don't tread on me" but, for the life of me, I can't understand what they're pissed off about?  If you see the cars these people drive to these rallies, you would understand that nobody's really "treading" on them.

And this whole "Republic of Texas" movement?  Yet more pissed off white people who don't like the "brown wave" and want to shoot people.

I hear about violence in Ferguson and its "scumbags" but Bundy (and all of these people) are "patriots"?!?
You claimed the government didn't crack down on those people and yet it took all of a minute to find multiple accounts of the government going after "militias", tax-resistors, "sovereigns", and the like. And the government press releases happen almost every month about the "threat" from veterans, home-grown extremists, white racists, etc- even in conferences about terrorism in which the word "Islam" or Mexican drug cartels won't be mentioned.

Unfortunately, blacks are more likely to be "stop and frisked" by Bloomberg's policy, or get arrested for minor crimes (like smoking weed, public intox, or using drugs) because they are more likely to be criminal in view of police. This isn't to say that white don't use drugs (they do) but it is harder to "bust" a white lawyer in his condo doing lines versus some guy in the alley smoking crack. Or a white kid, no matter how "gangsta" he thinks he is smoking blunts in the suburbs. Or some meth-head in a compound versus someone in a crackhouse in a downtown city. Or a "high class" call girl (or a billionaire lolita flights and sex island trip like with Epstein etc) and a street-walker. The one on the street risks getting busted. (Lucky the other types eventually do also, but not as often.) Proximity is the main issue. Also frequency. A rich hedgefund trader can go to a "clean" dealer to get his blow and buy in decent quantities. Versus going to some street dealer to get a fix several times a time. That means more risk to be busted.
Not because they are black but because they are buying drugs or committing crimes in public or in places more likely to gain attention of the police! (Robbing a store for some cheap cigars and then walking down the center of the street, as an example.) So the issue is more about poverty than race. And about where you are committing crimes! If you are out in public committing crimes you risk arrest or at least questioning.

And, more troubling, for whatever reason blacks seem to commit more violent crimes per capita -usually against each other despite the many stories of the many actual hate crimes against whites. Most rapes, murders, and general mayhem on blacks is by other blacks. So if you commit more crime (per capita) you will be more likely to be arrested or be in prison. There also is an infamous "don't snitch" culture so, yes, often crimes against blacks are less likely to be closed by the police. Not due to lack of effort but because, sometimes, harder to crack case. More blacks in prison. Yes, but this is also, likely, due to more crime committed by them and lack of education or wealth so they don't hire attorneys, or qualified ones.

ps: why isn't Epstein and his lolitas getting as much press coverage as Koresh or those crazy Mormons? Because some rich and political types partook? And, clearly, the best way to rescue abused children to initiate a stand-off with crazies (when Koresh could've been arrested weekly since he left his Compound to make purchases frequently etc) or to burn them up by improper use of CS gas (as some claim.) Regardless the children are better off now, right? :o

pps: apparently SPLC, FBI, and ADL had informants, some sources say actual implanted folks, in Elohim City prior to OKC. (note the "rightwing" source.) Just saying....

http://www.motherjones.com/files/legacy/news/featurex/2007/07/FBI_1.5.96.pdf

Eddie Coyle

Quote from: VtaGeezer on March 13, 2015, 06:41:09 PM
Not at all, EC, I didn't say it was likely; just that it wouldn't surprise me.  And that we have a clear case of fringe rightwingers involved with the Bundy incident who actually did go off the rails and kill two cops.

    And a "Justice For Mike Brown" hashtag on Instagram just before two cops were murdered in NYC on 12/20 by the person with that account indicates that malevolence could be arising from that side as well.

     An Instagram post that was lauded by not just a few....

VtaGeezer

Quote from: Eddie Coyle on March 13, 2015, 06:51:39 PM
    And a "Justice For Mike Brown" hashtag on Instagram just before two cops were murdered in NYC on 12/21 by the person with that account indicates that malevolence could be arising from that side as well.

     An Instragram post that was lauded by not just a few....
All true. So what?  Psychos can inhabit the fringe at both ends.

Eddie Coyle

Quote from: VtaGeezer on March 14, 2015, 12:02:01 AM
All true. So what?  Psychos can inhabit the fringe at both ends.

    It's the fringe, it's nothing but psychos. But the odds of this Ferguson shooting being a provocateur act by a militia type, is about as likely as an New Black Panther Party member shooting cops at the Bundy Ranch.

    And if George Soros "bankrolled" these recent protests, he should demand a refund. The detritus at the protest the night of the shooting looked unorganized at best and like something out of a Tom Wolfe parody. The type of idiots who can kill a cause. Donald Segretti dreamed of that crew.

     

   
     

paladin1991

Quote from: Eddie Coyle on March 14, 2015, 12:24:46 AM
    It's the fringe, it's nothing but psychos. But the odds of this Ferguson shooting being a provocateur act by a militia type, is about as likely as an New Black Panther Party member shooting cops at the Bundy Ranch.

    And if George Soros "bankrolled" these recent protests, he should demand a refund. The detritus at the protest the night of the shooting looked unorganized at best and like something out of a Tom Wolfe parody. The type of idiots who can kill a cause. Donald Segretti dreamed of that crew.

     

   
   
Donald Segretti.  There's a name that I hadn't heard in a while.  Thought him lost to history.  But nope, turns out he is still alive and was last politically heard here in my own OC where he served as co-chair for McStains big run.

VtaGeezer

Quote from: Eddie Coyle on March 14, 2015, 12:24:46 AM
    It's the fringe, it's nothing but psychos.
Not all are really psychos; just terribly misguided + paranoid. Else we have some here that need monitoring.

Eddie Coyle

Quote from: paladin1991 on March 14, 2015, 08:13:13 AM
  Donald Segretti.  There's a name that I hadn't heard in a while.  Thought him lost to history.  But nope, turns out he is still alive and was last politically heard here in my own OC where he served as co-chair for McStains big run.

     I remember him popping up for a radio interview a few years ago and figured he'd be pushing a book about Watergate or something, but I was genuinely surprised he was still involved in campaigns.

albrecht

Quote from: Eddie Coyle on March 14, 2015, 09:58:08 AM
     I remember him popping up for a radio interview a few years ago and figured he'd be pushing a book about Watergate or something, but I was genuinely surprised he was still involved in campaigns.
It was in OC but still I'm pretty shocked also. One would think the opposition, or the media, would seize upon hiring a 'dirty tricks' expert that is so (in)famous but, I guess, all campaigns these days hire these type of people.

Eddie Coyle

Quote from: albrecht on March 14, 2015, 10:00:51 AM
It was in OC but still I'm pretty shocked also. One would think the opposition, or the media, would seize upon hiring a 'dirty tricks' expert that is so (in)famous but, I guess, all campaigns these days hire these type of people.
No doubt they still exist, but sub rosa has to be way to go. McCain loudly protested "dirty tricks" during the 2000 primary in South Carolina, and grandstander that he tends to be, it's a minor upset he didn't demand Segretti's excommunication for prior sins to gain some brownie points from the press.

Zoo

Quote from: Paper*Boy on March 12, 2015, 08:43:24 PM
So 2 more cops were shot, this time in Ferguson of all places.

Obama, Holder, Sharpton, Jackson, the Occupy thugs, and their accomplices in the media are responsible for this.  In order - stirring the pot, inciting violence, attacking the police, urging others to do so, and glorifying every bit of it.

Every person demonstrating there yesterday should have been arrested and charged as accessories.  There is no Constitutional or any other Right to take over a downtown, riot, and attack police. 

Obama despises our Constitution, so I see no reason for Congress not to ignore it in this case as well, and simply have him arrested, charged, and jailed.  No bail, with his multiple passports and identities he's a flight risk.

Oh yeah, Obama, his toadies, the Left wing Occupy pukes - they are true Patriotic Americans and love this country - can't you tell

No the shooter is!!1

Eddie Coyle


   The upstanding Bishop Derrick Williams says the Ferguson suspect was "brutally beaten" and "set up". MSNBC's Tamron Hall, unlike the beta male Jake Tapper/Don Lemon anchors, actually demanded proof and essentially ended the interview with a look of deep annoyance. I'm sure she's being derided as "Aunt Tom" by the Black Lies Matter clowns.

   

albrecht

Quote from: Zoo on March 14, 2015, 07:03:22 PM
No the shooter is!!1
The protestor, and criminal, "youth", to use the parlance of the media, that shot the officers is claiming that the shots weren't intended for the police but were fired over some other dispute (apparently protestors stole something from him earlier.) Whether this is just an attempt to try to get a lesser charge or are the actual facts is still in question though.
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2015/03/Jeffrey-williams-ferguson-officer-shooting-arrested/387865/?UTM_SOURCE=yahoo

Gd5150

Quote from: aldousburbank on November 24, 2014, 07:06:21 PM
Not by this dude, dude.  Smartest shit thunk all month.

Agreed. But since we can't wait for it to snow, release decisions in these type of trials at 8am when all the gentle giants are passed out. If snow isn't in the forecast, create artificial storms with fire hoses. dozens of localized storms via firetruck would be an effective way to control crowds. Sell the idiots umbrellas and use the money to pay for property destroyed.

albrecht

Quote from: Gd5150 on March 16, 2015, 04:42:53 PM
Agreed. But since we can't wait for it to snow, release decisions in these type of trials at 8am when all the gentle giants are passed out. If snow isn't in the forecast, create artificial storms with fire hoses. dozens of localized storms via firetruck would be an effective way to control crowds. Sell the idiots umbrellas and use the money to pay for property destroyed.
use chemtrails  ;) to create artificial storms to keep the "gentle giants" and "youth" indoors in times of any jury decisions. Or, heck, all the time.

Gd5150

Tell left wingers the localized rainstorms via fire truck will be used as evidence to support global climate warming disruption change. They'll go buck wild with support.

NowhereInTime

Quote from: Gd5150 on March 16, 2015, 08:08:43 PM
Tell left wingers the localized rainstorms via fire truck will be used as evidence to support global climate warming disruption change. They'll go buck wild with support.


Stewie Griffens laugh

Mea Culpa from an honest liberal. What a refreshing change. Can't wait to see how the tolerant "intellectuals" on the left viciously attack his character for daring to stray from the plantation.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2015/03/16/lesson-learned-from-the-shooting-of-michael-brown/

NowhereInTime

Quote from: FightTheFuture on March 17, 2015, 10:34:15 PM
Mea Culpa from an honest liberal. What a refreshing change. Can't wait to see how the tolerant "intellectuals" on the left viciously attack his character for daring to stray from the plantation.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2015/03/16/lesson-learned-from-the-shooting-of-michael-brown/

This is precisely the point where conservatives and everyone else digress.  The Michael Brown shooting was the catalyst for protests against the Ferguson PD in particular and police conduct toward blacks in general.

In the conservative point of view, because Brown did, in fact, rob the store and did, in fact, lower his hands (and it appears attempted to hurt Darren Wilson), this completely invalidates the premise of the protests and thus, shut up and mind your tone, Fiddler.

In the view of everyone else, and unarmed suspect was shot and killed by a police officer for a petty crime (much as Eric Garner was killed by the NYPD for selling unlicensed single cigarettes on the street -apparently a capital offense) and the body was disrespectfully left on the ground for four hours.   

Subsequently, the Ferguson PD (a force over 80% white in an area over 65% black) was found to have engaged not only in racial profiling and abuse (racking up motor vehicle fines, etc), but had conducted themselves unprofessionally on numerous occasions including sending racially charged emails back and forth.

So the protests (against the capricious use of police force, not just Michael Brown's unnecessary death) were called for and so was a Justice Department investigation (and the subsequent resignation and removal of several officers, including the Chief of Police).

albrecht

Quote from: NowhereInTime on March 18, 2015, 04:01:36 PM
This is precisely the point where conservatives and everyone else digress.  The Michael Brown shooting was the catalyst for protests against the Ferguson PD in particular and police conduct toward blacks in general.

In the conservative point of view, because Brown did, in fact, rob the store and did, in fact, lower his hands (and it appears attempted to hurt Darren Wilson), this completely invalidates the premise of the protests and thus, shut up and mind your tone, Fiddler.

In the view of everyone else, and unarmed suspect was shot and killed by a police officer for a petty crime (much as Eric Garner was killed by the NYPD for selling unlicensed single cigarettes on the street -apparently a capital offense) and the body was disrespectfully left on the ground for four hours.   

Subsequently, the Ferguson PD (a force over 80% white in an area over 65% black) was found to have engaged not only in racial profiling and abuse (racking up motor vehicle fines, etc), but had conducted themselves unprofessionally on numerous occasions including sending racially charged emails back and forth.

So the protests (against the capricious use of police force, not just Michael Brown's unnecessary death) were called for and so was a Justice Department investigation (and the subsequent resignation and removal of several officers, including the Chief of Police).
I'm waiting for the hipster selling me coffee tells me about race relations and Ferguson situation before commenting further. Having said that I hope someone is making youtube vids of the exchanges. I would love David Duke, or an Obama friend or mentor, to go buy a Starbucks and initiate a racial discussion with the barista. Would be hilarious! Or if a "gentle giant" or "youth" tries to rob the place and the employee instead of handing over the cash tries to start a dialogue on race. Wonder how that racial discussion goes. Please someone post the videos!

Quote from: NowhereInTime on March 18, 2015, 04:01:36 PM
This is precisely the point where conservatives and everyone else digress.  The Michael Brown shooting was the catalyst for protests against the Ferguson PD in particular and police conduct toward blacks in general.

In the conservative point of view, because Brown did, in fact, rob the store and did, in fact, lower his hands (and it appears attempted to hurt Darren Wilson), this completely invalidates the premise of the protests and thus, shut up and mind your tone, Fiddler.

In the view of everyone else, and unarmed suspect was shot and killed by a police officer for a petty crime (much as Eric Garner was killed by the NYPD for selling unlicensed single cigarettes on the street -apparently a capital offense) and the body was disrespectfully left on the ground for four hours.   

Subsequently, the Ferguson PD (a force over 80% white in an area over 65% black) was found to have engaged not only in racial profiling and abuse (racking up motor vehicle fines, etc), but had conducted themselves unprofessionally on numerous occasions including sending racially charged emails back and forth.

So the protests (against the capricious use of police force, not just Michael Brown's unnecessary death) were called for and so was a Justice Department investigation (and the subsequent resignation and removal of several officers, including the Chief of Police).

I think the point here was the whole "hands up, don't shoot" stuff was a lie.  Didn't happen in Ferguson, didn't happen anywhere.  Another intentional lie planted by the shameful Left-wing race-baiters trying to create more chaos, fear, hate, and confusion.

Regarding the Ferguson reports issued by the Justice Dept, here is what Thomas Sowell had to say about them:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/03/10/the_disparate_impact_racket_125880.html

Following are the first few paragraphs:

"The U.S. Department of Justice issued two reports last week, both growing out of the Ferguson, Missouri shooting of Michael Brown. The first report, about "the shooting death of Michael Brown by Ferguson, Missouri police officer Darren Wilson" ought to be read by every American.

It says in plain English what facts have been established by an autopsy on Michael Brown's body -- by three different pathologists, including one representing the family of Michael Brown -- by DNA examination of officer Darren Wilson's gun and police vehicle, by examination of the pattern of blood stains on the street where Brown died and by a medical report on officer Wilson, from the hospital where he went for treatment.

The bottom line is that all this hard evidence, and more, show what a complete lie was behind all the stories of Michael Brown being shot in the back or being shot while raising his hands in surrender. Yet that lie was repeated, and dramatized in demonstrations and riots from coast to coast, as well as in the media and even in the halls of Congress.

The other Justice Department report, issued the same day -- "Investigation of the Ferguson Police Department" -- was a complete contrast. Sweeping assumptions take the place of facts, and misleading statistics are thrown around recklessly. This second report is worth reading, just to get a sense of the contrast with the first."


He continues on, discussing that second report in more detail..

Gd5150

Quote from: Paper*Boy on March 18, 2015, 08:57:44 PM
I think the point here was the whole "hands up, don't shoot" stuff was a lie.  Didn't happen in Ferguson, didn't happen anywhere.  Another intentional lie planted by the shameful Left-wing race-baiters trying to create more chaos, fear, hate, and confusion.

And by "shameful Left-wing race-baiters" you'd be referring to not only the Al Sharptens of the world who we know are worthless turds, but the NYTimes, LATimes, SFChronic;e, MSNBC, CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, NPR. Yep, gotta love the objective media, where the truth never comes unless you shove it down their throat.

NowhereInTime

Quote from: Paper*Boy on March 18, 2015, 08:57:44 PM
I think the point here was the whole "hands up, don't shoot" stuff was a lie.  Didn't happen in Ferguson, didn't happen anywhere.  Another intentional lie planted by the shameful Left-wing race-baiters trying to create more chaos, fear, hate, and confusion.

Regarding the Ferguson reports issued by the Justice Dept, here is what Thomas Sowell had to say about them:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/03/10/the_disparate_impact_racket_125880.html

Following are the first few paragraphs:

"The U.S. Department of Justice issued two reports last week, both growing out of the Ferguson, Missouri shooting of Michael Brown. The first report, about "the shooting death of Michael Brown by Ferguson, Missouri police officer Darren Wilson" ought to be read by every American.

It says in plain English what facts have been established by an autopsy on Michael Brown's body -- by three different pathologists, including one representing the family of Michael Brown -- by DNA examination of officer Darren Wilson's gun and police vehicle, by examination of the pattern of blood stains on the street where Brown died and by a medical report on officer Wilson, from the hospital where he went for treatment.

The bottom line is that all this hard evidence, and more, show what a complete lie was behind all the stories of Michael Brown being shot in the back or being shot while raising his hands in surrender. Yet that lie was repeated, and dramatized in demonstrations and riots from coast to coast, as well as in the media and even in the halls of Congress.

The other Justice Department report, issued the same day -- "Investigation of the Ferguson Police Department" -- was a complete contrast. Sweeping assumptions take the place of facts, and misleading statistics are thrown around recklessly. This second report is worth reading, just to get a sense of the contrast with the first."


He continues on, discussing that second report in more detail..

Think of this along the lines of Benghazi.  You feel it is symptomatic of Obama's malfeasance as Commander in Chief. You believe it is a seminal event in his Presidency which proves what you believed all along.
Doesn't matter that every investigation since has shown no evidence of culpability for the attack or subsequent murder of the embassy staff there, you cons have rallied around it ever since.

The similarity here is that many in this country has felt that same resentment toward police departments around the country, especially predominantly white police departments in predominantly minority communities. 

It isn't a case, as conservatives believe, that people are protesting just this one incident based on incorrect information, therefore their complaints are invalid. It doesn't work like that.  Just like it doesn't seem to work like that regarding Benghazi.

The point is that this, the Garner murder, the shooting of 12 year old Tamir Rice, and so many other deaths of unarmed minorities at the hands of white cops, the never ending racial profiling, the abuse of stop and frisk, the lopsided incarceration rates have catalyzed peoples and begun to culminate in angry protests.

Pointing out the medical and forensic evidence in this case as a counterpoint to protesters' anger misses the point altogether.

NowhereInTime

Quote from: Gd5150 on March 18, 2015, 10:09:05 PM
And by "shameful Left-wing race-baiters" you'd be referring to not only the Al Sharptens of the world who we know are worthless turds, but the NYTimes, LATimes, SFChronic;e, MSNBC, CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, NPR. Yep, gotta love the objective media, where the truth never comes unless you shove it down their throat.

I love how consistent you cons are; everything's always "Al Sharpton".  That's the best you can do for a bogeyman?  Most of the left tuned him out decades ago.

By the way, listing basically every credible news organization and then decrying them makes you look like a yokel.  What's next, a rant against "fancy book learnin'"?

DanTSX

Quote from: NowhereInTime on March 13, 2015, 05:10:25 PM
I live in a country where black Americans are routinely stopped and frisked but Timothy McVeigh wasn't captured until after he slaughtered innocent men, women and children to express his anti-government outrage.

I live in a country where it took 5 years (after accusing the wrong man) to catch another angry white bomber like Eric Rudolph who felt it was ok to terrorize the Olympics and to bomb abortion clinics, because he was offended by the government. 

I live in a country where Dr. King was routinely surveilled but nobody had any idea about James Earl Ray drawing down on him.

I live in a country where, routinely, pissed off anti-government people form compounds where they feel free to commit craven acts. Do you defend the actions of David (Vernon Howell) Koresh?  Do you really feel the government violated his sovereignty to impregnate 14 year old girls?

I live in a country where Cliven Bundy and a bunch of militia types threatened the Bureau of Land Management agents in charge of enforcing a twenty year old cease and desist order to either pay grazing fees or stop grazing on federal lands.  Armed white people showed up, and the government backed down to avoid further violence; to date Bundy still grazes on federal land.  How is this permissible?

I live in a country see white people everywhere protesting "unfair treatment" and "don't tread on me" but, for the life of me, I can't understand what they're pissed off about?  If you see the cars these people drive to these rallies, you would understand that nobody's really "treading" on them.

And this whole "Republic of Texas" movement?  Yet more pissed off white people who don't like the "brown wave" and want to shoot people.

I hear about violence in Ferguson and its "scumbags" but Bundy (and all of these people) are "patriots"?!?

I live in a country where you can buy as selective and broad of a brush as you.........#firstworldguilt

Have you been to these rallies?

Or do you just follow around the Glenn Beck crowd looking for thing to become outraged about?


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