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jazmunda

Quote from: nooryisawesome on November 30, 2015, 04:21:45 AM
yes!

I also need to find out where I can get a hat like his. That is one hell of a hat.



That's what the wormhole is for. What else if not for getting fashion advice from guests.

Quote from: SredniVashtar on November 30, 2015, 04:23:00 AM
There is no opinion humbler than yours, madam. I'd ask a traffic cone for its views on world affairs before I came to you.

lol +1


WOTR

Quote from: jazmunda on November 30, 2015, 04:27:23 AM
That's what the wormhole is for. What else if not for getting fashion advice from guests.
As somebody who wears a hat daily (usually western for the week and various others on the weekend) I would venture that this is a custom job done by a friend.  However, if Art answered how he drinks his coffee from wormhole questions, its seems reasonable that he may ask the guest for the name of his hatter.

Quote from: Art Bell on November 30, 2015, 03:02:24 AM
First it was so I could quit, then when I didn't quit, it became for ratings? Now there was no mouse?
I give up.


Art
Quote from: coaster on November 30, 2015, 03:16:57 AM
I think they were joking about the mouse.
I agree coaster. That's just Zeebo trying to lighten the mood, plus I think he might be sad that it wasn't one of his squirrel cousins. Zeebo, get on the horn to some of your relatives in Pahrump and see if they can put in an appearance at Art's studio. Just one or two though please, we can't have them overrunning the place.

BTW Art, Thank you for the posts.  :)  Please remember, it only takes one or two rotten apples to ruin an entire barrel. I'm quite sure that over 99% of the 3,705 members of BellGab never once doubted you were telling the truth, especially those of us that have been listening to you since the late '80's and have heard you share other personal details about your life.
If you take a look at some of the other posts (just click on their avatar) by the naysayers.....

Baaaah - nix that, don't even waste your time.

I'm just glad you're on the air and we get to hear you live again.
I hope the situation is resolved soon. Keep your family and yourself safe bro.

This one's for you Art...


Charlie Dore

Quote from: SredniVashtar on November 30, 2015, 03:53:45 AM
Hmm. I hope you are secure in the stirrups of that high horse you have been riding recently. You are being disingenuous with this attitude. It all depends, with you, which radio hosts you esteem, and which you don't. Those you dislike get tossed out with the garbage on little or no evidence. Stop this Falkie nonsense. I have read that OSOM thread, and it is as toxic as it gets - it reads like the ramblings of a bunch of insomniac shut-ins. The Falkie thread is a hell of a lot funnier than the vituperative group-think you read among the Hoagland bashers, and it also tries to offer constructive suggestions at times. And you also decided to convict Hoagland on the say-so of a disgruntled employee with no corroborating evidence. Oh, and you also tried to hound Hoagland (an elderly man with, presumably, no other income stream) out of a job at the behest of the lord and master. That bloody open-lines bullshit was not only unfunny, it was mean and sinister. This saintly attitude ill becomes those who want to drive an old man out of the only job he has.

Art may well be totally sincere, but as we are all people who enjoy pursuing alternative suggestions to subjects, then I think it is a perfectly reasonable avenue to pursue. Art knows that, or should do. He is also not a saint, and I don't expect him to be. I have never said he was making it up. Neither did I say he was seeing things. But it is reasonable to at least pose the question. I don't think it requires too much sophistication to be able to entertain differing ideas without necessarily subscribing to them, does it?
The evidence is there every night on Hoaxy's show. Listen to him...  no, actually listen.   to.    him.
QuoteThat bloody open-lines bullshit was not only unfunny, it was mean and sinister.
You have no idea of what mean and sinister is !
It got the point across though didn't it.
Hoaxy sure as hell wasn't paying any heed to the emails he was receiving.
Have you forgotten ? This is BellGab, not Hoax-Gab.

EDIT So I take it you didn't enjoy the Falkie sound-board ? /EDIT

All this - coming from the guy that is writing the Falkie Diaries ?
QuoteI have read that OSOM thread
Why don't you go back to page 400 and start there, then maybe you'll gain some understanding.
Nuff said except for this...

Quit changing topics to cover your ass from what you posted in this thread before.

wr250

Quote from: Art Bell on November 29, 2015, 11:12:08 PM
I don't post as much because I am busy with the show. I have seen some people think I made that stuff up for ratings? Not funny, I did consider leaving because of it because it put a big stress on my
Family as well as myself but it also pissed me off. You don't get ratings because you miss a day or your so shaken that it's hard to concentrate. Ratings only come from doing a good show. Besides do people think I got all my Neighbors to give false statements to the Police? My opinion is people like to imagian the worst of people, that's all.

Art
Art, it seems i need to repost "Posting and you" for some here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx4EfoLzu_I


A person can receive 99 positive comments about themselves, yet they will always remember the 1 negative comment.

I enjoy Art. I have no reason to disbelieve him. I allow him the benefit of the doubt regarding his claims. However, nothing OBLIGATES myself, or anyone else to agree with him if they choose not to do so. I sincerely hope Art would agree. 

***DISCLAIMER*** - Slander and/or liable, obviously, is not a behavior I am endorsing.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: (Sandman) Logan-5 on November 30, 2015, 06:49:15 AM
The evidence is there every night on Hoaxy's show. Listen to him...  no, actually listen.   to.    him.You have no idea of what mean and sinister is !
It got the point across though didn't it.
Hoaxy sure as hell wasn't paying any heed to the emails he was receiving.
Have you forgotten ? This is BellGab, not Hoax-Gab.

All this - coming from the guy that is writing the Falkie Diaries ? Why don't you go back to page 400 and start there, then maybe you'll gain some understanding.
Nuff said except for this...

Quit changing topics to cover your ass from what you posted in this thread before.

Temper temper. It's revealing though. Basically Bellgab cannot say anything negative about AB, no matter what, because it draws flack. Which then has a two fold outcome: the disciples feel they've given it to the 'trolls', 'idiots' and 'unintelligent'; though quite how someone can go from intelligent to stupid on the strength of going against the grain is only something the elite thinkers could answer.

The second outcome is those who might want to voice an opinion that goes against the grain, no matter how innocuous might give it a miss because of the invective that will inevitably rain down on them.

In a nutshell then: Trite ongoing ridicule and invective that points in Noory's direction is good and justified no matter what the intelligence of the author.

Any negative (no matter what) comment directed in AB's direction by default is written by an idiot, certainly someobe who can't be trusted and should be attacked.

Fascism anyone?

Sandman, what exactly has SredniVashtar posted that's SO offensive to you, personally? Slander? Liable? Or are you taking on the mantle for; being offended on someone else's behalf?...

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on November 30, 2015, 07:30:37 AM
Temper temper. It's revealing though. Basically Bellgab cannot say anything negative about AB, no matter what, because it draws flack. Which then has a two fold outcome: the disciples feel they've given it to the 'trolls', 'idiots' and 'unintelligent'; though quite how someone can go from intelligent to stupid on the strength of going against the grain is only something the elite thinkers could answer.

The second outcome is those who might want to voice an opinion that goes against the grain, no matter how innocuous might give it a miss because of the invective that will inevitably rain down on them.

In a nutshell then: Trite ongoing ridicule and invective that points in Noory's direction is good and justified no matter what the intelligence of the author.

Any negative (no matter what) comment directed in AB's direction by default is written by an idiot, certainly someobe who can't be trusted and should be attacked.

Fascism anyone?

FUCKING FASCISTS! - The Dude

cweb

Quote from: jazmunda on November 30, 2015, 04:10:41 AM
Holy shitballs Batman. It's FLYING HUMANOIDS!!!!

Monday Night's Guest: Ken Gerhard: Flying Humanoids

http://artbell.com/ken-gerhard/
This could be a bit creepy. If I'm not totally awake by the start of the show, I will be by the end.

I wonder if Art will ask about the mysterious flying humanoid known as Santa Claus...  ;)

nika01

Quote from: rekcuf on November 30, 2015, 07:26:38 AM
A person can receive 99 positive comments about themselves, yet they will always remember the 1 negative comment.

I enjoy Art. I have no reason to disbelieve him. I allow him the benefit of the doubt regarding his claims. However, nothing OBLIGATES myself, or anyone else to agree with him if they choose not to do so. I sincerely hope Art would agree. 

***DISCLAIMER*** - Slander and/or liable, obviously, is not a behavior I am endorsing.

Excellent post. I agree 100%. I respect Art and am damn glad he is on the air, but dont agree with him on some topics at all.

Quote from: cweb on November 30, 2015, 07:45:33 AM
This could be a bit creepy. If I'm not totally awake by the start of the show, I will be by the end.

I wonder if Art will ask about the mysterious flying humanoid known as Santa Claus...  ;)

Krampus?

norland2424

Quote from: rekcuf on November 30, 2015, 07:32:06 AM
Sandman, what exactly has SredniVashtar posted that's SO offensive to you, personally? Slander? Liable? Or are you taking on the mantle for; being offended on someone else's behalf?...

I think its the fact that srednivashtar is trying to come off as a saint, even tho hes always fucking with falkie, and his fake concern for Hoagland.

Quote from: norland2424 on November 30, 2015, 07:53:37 AM
I think its the fact that srednivashtar is trying to come off as a saint, even tho hes always fucking with falkie, and his fake concern for Hoagland.

Perhaps, contrary? I'm not convinced he's wronged anyone, especially not Art.

SredniVashtar

Quote from: (Sandman) Logan-5 on November 30, 2015, 06:49:15 AM
The evidence is there every night on Hoaxy's show. Listen to him...  no, actually listen.   to.    him.

A tendentious interpretation of someone's character flaws is not evidence of the role he played in that little imbroglio. Rossy didn't even come straight out and say it, he leaked it out via a proxy. If he'd had the balls to front up he would have got more credit and respect. Give me something from a third party source and you are on to something. It's just "he said, she said". I need no convincing Hoagland is a dick, by the way, but you shouldn't fuck with a guy's living. It gives the impression of a bunch of feckless queens giggling together because they have nothing better to do.

Quote from: (Sandman) Logan-5 on November 30, 2015, 06:49:15 AM
You have no idea of what mean and sinister is !

You're right. I should have considered my words more carefully. I meant "crude and sophomoric".

Quote from: (Sandman) Logan-5 on November 30, 2015, 06:49:15 AM
It got the point across though didn't it.

If your "point" was that you are a bunch of spiteful dicks, then I'd say you succeeded admirably.

Quote from: (Sandman) Logan-5 on November 30, 2015, 06:49:15 AM
Hoaxy sure as hell wasn't paying any heed to the emails he was receiving.

If they are anything like the contributions in his thread - one long menopausal bitch-whine, as tedious as it is ungrammatical - then I can't say I blame him.

Quote from: (Sandman) Logan-5 on November 30, 2015, 06:49:15 AM
Have you forgotten ? This is BellGab, not Hoax-Gab.

Whatever that means. I'm glad you aren't running this site, poppet, then all we'd do is slobber over someone's nuts all day long. The fun of this place is the diversity of topics and opinions. We don't need some self-appointed hall monitor telling us off for walking on the grass.

Quote from: (Sandman) Logan-5 on November 30, 2015, 06:49:15 AM
EDIT So I take it you didn't enjoy the Falkie sound-board ?

No, it was shitty. You can train an ape to do that in half an hour. And you probably did.

Quote from: (Sandman) Logan-5 on November 30, 2015, 06:49:15 AM
All this - coming from the guy that is writing the Falkie Diaries ?

I'm glad you reminded me. Available to pre-order now. I have even set up a little offer for you, so you can get a 10% discount off the cover price. Just quote the promo code "SANDVAG".

Quote from: (Sandman) Logan-5 on November 30, 2015, 06:49:15 AM
Quit changing topics to cover your ass from what you posted in this thread before.

I honestly have no idea what you are going on about here. I shall be charitable and assume you have been huffing paint.

SredniVashtar

Quote from: norland2424 on November 30, 2015, 07:53:37 AM
I think its the fact that srednivashtar is trying to come off as a saint, even tho hes always fucking with falkie, and his fake concern for Hoagland.

Let me clarify something for the benefit of all you slow adults out there. Nobody is fucking with Falkie. He can - and does - do what he likes, and he is free to fritter away his miserable existence in any way he pleases. Nobody forces him to come on here and share the minutiae of his life with anyone - in fact, he often receives sensible advice (sometimes actual offers of genuine physical help) which he inevitably ignores. He wouldn't come on here and open himself up the abuse if he didn't enjoy it at some level. It is also so over the top that no-one but the terminally humourless could mistake it for anything other than a bit of joshing at the big guy's expense.

The Hoagland crowd, on the other other hand, actively connive to get the man slung out of a job. They all know he is broke-ass, yet they still gouge that wound and want him thrown in the street. If you don't like the man, then don't listen to his fucking show and leave it at that; yet they all cluster round every single evening, like a bunch of half-witted hens, moaning about what a shitty old bastard RCH is. Get over it, people!!

I don't claim to be a saint, but I don't like to see people claiming some kind of moral high ground that they don't deserve. If you don't like hearing something that isn't lockstep with the Art Bell message, you don't have to, but don't pretend that you are any better than anyone else.

ponyboysunset

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on November 30, 2015, 07:30:37 AM
Temper temper. It's revealing though. Basically Bellgab cannot say anything negative about AB, no matter what, because it draws flack. Which then has a two fold outcome: the disciples feel they've given it to the 'trolls', 'idiots' and 'unintelligent'; though quite how someone can go from intelligent to stupid on the strength of going against the grain is only something the elite thinkers could answer.

The second outcome is those who might want to voice an opinion that goes against the grain, no matter how innocuous might give it a miss because of the invective that will inevitably rain down on them.

In a nutshell then: Trite ongoing ridicule and invective that points in Noory's direction is good and justified no matter what the intelligence of the author.

Any negative (no matter what) comment directed in AB's direction by default is written by an idiot, certainly someobe who can't be trusted and should be attacked.

Fascism anyone?
Exactly. You cannot express a different opinion from the group think that goes on here without catching any flack.

norland2424

Quote from: SredniVashtar on November 30, 2015, 08:22:25 AM
Let me clarify something for the benefit of all you slow adults out there. Nobody is fucking with Falkie. He can - and does - do what he likes, and he is free to fritter away his miserable existence in any way he pleases. Nobody forces him to come on here and share the minutiae of his life with anyone - in fact, he often receives sensible advice (sometimes actual offers of genuine physical help) which he inevitably ignores. He wouldn't come on here and open himself up the abuse if he didn't enjoy it at some level. It is also so over the top that no-one but the terminally humourless could mistake it for anything other than a bit of joshing at the big guy's expense.

The Hoagland crowd, on the other other hand, actively connive to get the man slung out of a job. They all know he is broke-ass, yet they still gouge that wound and want him thrown in the street. If you don't like the man, then don't listen to his fucking show and leave it at that; yet they all cluster round every single evening, like a bunch of half-witted hens, moaning about what a shitty old bastard RCH is. Get over it, people!!

I don't claim to be a saint, but I don't like to see people claiming some kind of moral high ground that they don't deserve. If you don't like hearing something that isn't lockstep with the Art Bell message, you don't have to, but don't pretend that you are any better than anyone else.

Ah yes we all have so much pull that we can get him fired,  ::) ,my point is you may tell yourself its all fun in games with falkie but its no different then the bs we do in the osom thread, by the way i dont see a problem with what you wrote about Art, what i do find to be bs is your fake concern over Hoagland. We are all stuck neck deep in the mud here.

norland2424

Quote from: ponyboysunset on November 30, 2015, 08:27:16 AM
Exactly. You cannot express a different opinion from the group think that goes on here without catching any flack.

Why should it matter if you get flack or not, im not trying to attack you, i just never get why people should care if their own opinions aren't well received on a forum.

Quote from: (Sandman) Logan-5 on November 30, 2015, 06:49:15 AM
The evidence is there every night on Hoaxy's show. Listen to him...  no, actually listen.   to.    him.You have no idea of what mean and sinister is !
It got the point across though didn't it.
Hoaxy sure as hell wasn't paying any heed to the emails he was receiving.
Have you forgotten ? This is BellGab, not Hoax-Gab.

EDIT So I take it you didn't enjoy the Falkie sound-board ? /EDIT

All this - coming from the guy that is writing the Falkie Diaries ? Why don't you go back to page 400 and start there, then maybe you'll gain some understanding.
Nuff said except for this...

Quit changing topics to cover your ass from what you posted in this thread before.

*Reposted for quick reference and context*  ^^^
Quote from: rekcuf on November 30, 2015, 07:26:38 AM
  ...nothing OBLIGATES myself, or anyone else to agree with him if they choose not to do so.  ...
Please show me where I said it did.
Quote from: Yorkshire pud on November 30, 2015, 07:30:37 AM
Temper temper. It's revealing though. Basically Bellgab cannot say anything negative about AB, no matter what, because it draws flack. Which then has a two fold outcome: the disciples feel they've given it to the 'trolls', 'idiots' and 'unintelligent'; though quite how someone can go fr***DISCLAIMER*** - Slander and/or liable, obviously, is not a behavior I am endorsing. om intelligent to stupid on the strength of going against the grain is only something the elite thinkers could answer.

The second outcome is those who might want to voice an opinion that goes against the grain, no matter how innocuous might give it a miss because of the invective that will inevitably rain down on them.

In a nutshell then: Trite ongoing ridicule and invective that points in Noory's direction is good and justified no matter what the intelligence of the author.

Any negative (no matter what) comment directed in AB's direction by default is written by an idiot, certainly someobe who can't be trusted and should be attacked.

Fascism anyone?
Nice little rant.
I put the same question to you.
Please show me where I said that.
Also, please re-read my post. It deals with SV trying to get a rise out of the OSOM posters.
BTW - You're the one that started this whole shit-storm for the last 14 pages by basically calling Art a liar and casting dispersions on his integrity. Show me one instance where Art has directly, knowingly, lied to his audience about something as serious as this.

http://bellgab.com/index.php/topic,30.msg605309.html#msg605309

Cynicism is one thing, but you are the main protagonist for the last 14 pages. There are plenty of other threads to sling shit in. Did you read Art's posts. You, SV & VG damn near caused Art to say to hell with BellGab.
Let me say it again - 14 pages - IN ART'S THREAD.




Quote from: norland2424 on November 30, 2015, 07:53:37 AM
I think its the fact that srednivashtar is trying to come off as a saint, even tho hes always fucking with falkie, and his fake concern for Hoagland.
Right on the money.

ponyboysunset

Quote from: norland2424 on November 30, 2015, 08:31:30 AM
Why should it matter if you get flack or not, im not trying to attack you, i just never get why people should care if their own opinions aren't well received on a forum.
I was just agreeing with the poster. I love Art's show. It's just a very interesting thing to watch the way people will follow others. And question nothing ever. That's all. I have no beef with anyone here.

Sandman, I never said YOU did. The statement you quoted was/is my opinion. Nothing more.

SredniVashtar

Quote from: norland2424 on November 30, 2015, 08:29:01 AM
Ah yes we all have so much pull that we can get him fired,  ::) ,my point is you may tell yourself its all fun in games with falkie but its no different then the bs we do in the osom thread, by the way i dont see a problem with what you wrote about Art, what i do find to be bs is your fake concern over Hoagland. We are all stuck neck deep in the mud here.

Not "fired". Don't pretend to be naive. You wanted to piss him off so much that he threw up the gig and allowed someone else to come in. Someone whom you approved of for a while, before you turned on him as you did with Hoagland. It's different with Falkie because he doesn't stand to lose anything - in fact he might actually make himself a few bucks with the notoriety, and one thing and another. The fucking with Hoagland is an attempt to mess with his livelihood.

I don't care a jot about Hoagland. I am pointing out the inconsistency of those who want to feel that they are above the fray by supporting Art Bell, when they are mischievous dicks like everyone else.

norland2424

Quote from: SredniVashtar on November 30, 2015, 08:38:05 AM
Not "fired". Don't pretend to be naive. You wanted to piss him off so much that he threw up the gig and allowed someone else to come in. Someone whom you approved of for a while, before you turned on him as you did with Hoagland. It's different with Falkie because he doesn't stand to lose anything - in fact he might actually make himself a few bucks with the notoriety, and one thing and another. The fucking with Hoagland is an attempt to mess with his livelihood.

I don't care a jot about Hoagland. I am pointing out the inconsistency of those who want to feel that they are above the fray by supporting Art Bell, when they are mischievous dicks like everyone else.

I am curious who do you mean by that?

Ms. C

Quote from: Art Bell on November 30, 2015, 02:35:55 AM
Ho hum, people will always think and say what they want.

Art

Art, thanks for being you!!!  That's all that matters to this ol' gal!   8)   

SredniVashtar

Quote from: norland2424 on November 30, 2015, 08:42:35 AM
I am curious who do you mean by that?

I had nobody in mind in particular, but I am pretty sure that the mephitic atmosphere in that thread would mean that they could bring in God himself to follow Art Bell and it wouldn't please you. He could nail guest after guest - his producer, Saint Peter, managing to line up interviews with Adolf Hitler and Genghis Khan in the first two days, for example - but if the little prick forgot to say "happy birthday" to Sandy The Ewok - or whatever her fucking name is this week - then you'd start bombing his switchboard and farting into the receiver as you did the last time. Yeah, comedy fucking gold. Tee-hee!

norland2424

Quote from: SredniVashtar on November 30, 2015, 08:49:23 AM
I had nobody in mind in particular, but I am pretty sure that the mephitic atmosphere in that thread would mean that they could bring in God himself to follow Art Bell and it wouldn't please you. He could nail guest after guest - his producer, Saint Peter, managing to line up interviews with Adolf Hitler and Genghis Khan in the first two days, for example - but if the little prick forgot to say "happy birthday" to Sandy The Ewok - or whatever her fucking name is this week - then you'd start bombing his switchboard and farting into the receiver as you did the last time. Yeah, comedy fucking gold. Tee-hee!

Lol you really do get worked uped over this dont you?

Quote from: SredniVashtar on November 30, 2015, 08:49:23 AM
I had nobody in mind in particular, but I am pretty sure that the mephitic atmosphere in that thread would mean that they could bring in God himself to follow Art Bell and it wouldn't please you. He could nail guest after guest - his producer, Saint Peter, managing to line up interviews with Adolf Hitler and Genghis Khan in the first two days, for example - but if the little prick forgot to say "happy birthday" to Sandy The Ewok - or whatever her fucking name is this week - then you'd start bombing his switchboard and farting into the receiver as you did the last time. Yeah, comedy fucking gold. Tee-hee!

Sandy the Ewok? Sir, if you have a moment, I'd like to tell you about my lord and savior C3PO...

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