Art Bell

[ringthane]

Premiere is owned by ClearChannel. They're the syndicator. Rush, Hannity & C2C have had a deal for most Cumulus affiliates to distribute their shows; it's been in place since the Citadel days, but will run out at the end of the year, maybe even sooner if one party manages to wiggle out of the contract for one reason or another. Like I said, I don't know intimate details beyond that, though.

Thank you bateman, I don't understand it that much more but it sheds a little light on it for me... mostly, that I'm an idiot when it comes to the Machiavellian machinations of terrestrial radio.

So, for the gurus and wanna be armchair radio pundits -- it makes sense to me that an Art debut would happen Monday, January 6 2014. New year, Cumulus and Rush wranglings divorce get sussed out, Cumulus has a few months to buy some more stations in uncovered markets. (Pittsburgh, AHEM...)

But -- would an August announcement be premature for a January 2014 debut? If Art does make an announcement soon, I'd think we'd see him start of Q4 2013.

Just musings from an uninformed ignoramus that can't WAIT to hear my buddy Art from the high desert. I really, really miss the guy.

[Morgus]

First, our only hint as Cumulus came from Art's link to Ross Michell, which was quickly taken down.

actually there is another 'hint'
if you check Art Bell's twitter page, the only other twitter page he is a follower of is a ham radio site which has lots of photos of Pahrump with what appears to be 'cumulus' clouds in the sky...

[bateman]

Thank you bateman, I don't understand it that much more but it sheds a little light on it for me... mostly, that I'm an idiot when it comes to the Machiavellian machinations of terrestrial radio.

So, for the gurus and wanna be armchair radio pundits -- it makes sense to me that an Art debut would happen Monday, January 6 2014. New year, Cumulus and Rush wranglings get sussed out, Cumulus has a few months to buy some more stations in uncovered markets. (Pittsburgh, AHEM...)

But -- would an August announcement be premature for a January 2014 debut? If Art does make an announcement soon, I'd think we'd see him start of Q4 2013.

Just musings from an uninformed ignoramus that can't WAIT to hear my buddy Art from the high desert. I really, really miss the guy.

I think the start date will be much, much sooner. They could blow out Red Eye in a nanosecond.

[Ravenna]

My prediction: 85, then 95 as the night progresses & then an announcement as Snoory begins polluting the airwaves at 1:00.

Wouldn't that be a weird time of day, though, to break a major announcement.  At night when most news bureaus have a skeleton staff?

I think what we may get today is just another big hint about what Art is doing next.  A really big one, and then a "stay tuned" sort of thing for further incoming messages. 

Btw, I put a tip into Matt Drudge's tip box on his website.

[MV/Liberace!]

actually there is another 'hint'
if you check Art Bell's twitter page, the only other twitter page he is a follower of is a ham radio site which has lots of photos of Pahrump with what appears to be 'cumulus' clouds in the sky...

Heh heh, awesome.

[popple]

I'm more than ready to get right back where we started from, Art! No one can take your place 

[bateman]

Wouldn't that be a weird time of day, though, to break a major announcement.  At night when most news bureaus have a skeleton staff?

I think what we may get today is just another big hint about what Art is doing next.  A really big one, and then a "stay tuned" sort of thing for further incoming messages. 

Btw, I put a tip into Matt Drudge's tip box on his website.

I mean, no one but us is really going to care about hearing Art Bell news the very second it happens. It'll be reported on Tuesday if it does end up happening tonight; still early enough in the week to get a few days' traction in the news cycle.

[S. R. Hadden]

Here's something to listen to while we're all waiting for Art to tell us What's Going On...


http://abcd.rowlandnet.com/media/goingon.ram

[morphiaflow]

Thank you bateman, I don't understand it that much more but it sheds a little light on it for me... mostly, that I'm an idiot when it comes to the Machiavellian machinations of terrestrial radio.

So, for the gurus and wanna be armchair radio pundits -- it makes sense to me that an Art debut would happen Monday, January 6 2014. New year, Cumulus and Rush wranglings divorce get sussed out, Cumulus has a few months to buy some more stations in uncovered markets. (Pittsburgh, AHEM...)

But -- would an August announcement be premature for a January 2014 debut? If Art does make an announcement soon, I'd think we'd see him start of Q4 2013.

Just musings from an uninformed ignoramus that can't WAIT to hear my buddy Art from the high desert. I really, really miss the guy.

I understand it, because I've read it and had it explained to me multiple times, but it doesn't mean I can explain it adequately myself. Suffice it to say, it has to do with, as you say, the labyrinthine workings of radio. It's more or less like a barter system, with a little bit of corporate intimidation thrown in. But the bottom line is, for the most part, where Rush goes, Coast goes. (When Art was still associated with the show, and he and Rush were friends, this was not a problem. I am sure they are still friends, but business is business.)

As for a four month wait? Possible, but doubtful. I think Art is chomping at the bit to get on the radio now. And just because he may be going to Cumulus stations at the end of the year doesn't mean (the specifics of his deal allowing, of course) that he can't do a "soft rollout" and start syndicating himself to other venues sooner that that. Though I don't think that's going to happen. He's going to do it big right out of the gate.

I had toyed with the idea that it's a "hurry up and wait" countdown to an announcement. I hope not though. And it doesn't feel like that. Unlike all the previous false starts and dead ends, this one has the feel of real. He's just making sure all of his ducks are in a row.

[Father Jack]

I just noticed that the artbell.net domain is up for sale. Anyone care to opine?

[Sardondi]

actually there is another 'hint'
if you check Art Bell's twitter page, the only other twitter page he is a follower of is a ham radio site which has lots of photos of Pahrump with what appears to be 'cumulus' clouds in the sky...

I have to admit, Art has had more fun with this than the law allows. Plus it's a simply brilliant way of energizing the base and generating a tremendous amount of anticipation and excitement. With any other media figure I'd roll my eyes at some of the suggestions about hidden meanings, such as a shot of "cumulus clouds"; but with Art, I wouldn't be a bit surprised that the pic has very specific meaning, and that Morgus's interpretation is dead accurate. Besides, Art has always admired the Haddonian style of dropping little hints and data crumbs which only the worthy will detect, understand and follow.

[ringthane]

I think the start date will be much, much sooner. They could blow out Red Eye in a nanosecond.

Ignoramus musings, part deux:

So, Cumulus/Art make announcement with Art's debut to happen 'soon.' Blow out in a nanosecond got me thinking... surprise, disrupt. Cumulus hasn't even inked the divorce papers with Rush yet (AFAIK) and here they come with their new Trophy Wife. Could Cumulus throwing down the gauntlet this soon, decisively, truly put the screws to Premier as far as packaging Snoron with Rush?

Given Jorch's new deal, how hard is Premier willing to fight for him?

I gots no business savvy, but I can see a quick, disruptive announcement from Cumulus cornering C2C into a not-so-good negotiating position.

[suttercane]

Here's something to listen to while we're all waiting for Art to tell us What's Going On...


http://abcd.rowlandnet.com/media/goingon.ram

Thank you.

[ItsOver]

actually there is another 'hint'
if you check Art Bell's twitter page, the only other twitter page he is a follower of is a ham radio site which has lots of photos of Pahrump with what appears to be 'cumulus' clouds in the sky...

Hmmmm... very observant, as always, Morgus.  Art is pretty slick. 

[ringthane]

I have to admit, Art has had more fun with this than the law allows. Plus it's a simply brilliant way of energizing the base and generating a tremendous amount of anticipation and excitement. With any other media figure I'd roll my eyes at some of the suggestions about hidden meanings, such as a shot of "cumulus clouds"; but with Art, I wouldn't be a bit surprised that the pic has very specific meaning, and that Morgus's interpretation is dead accurate. Besides, Art has always admired the Haddonian style of dropping little hints and data crumbs which only the worthy will detect, understand and follow.

This. +∞.

I'm heading off to work now and being disconnected from the 'incoming message' is going to partially kill me.

As much as I dislike the negative Nancy and doomfapper attitude -- I'm an eternal optimist with this here Art Bell thang -- the anticipation is killing me. I can understand the sentiment of wanting to dial back the expectations, even if only for a little bit. No need to spike the football in the end zone when Coach Bell hasn't even hit the field yet.

I need to chill, take a valerian and hit reload on my iPhone all night while my crew isn't looking. Uuuuuugh.

[bateman]

Ignoramus musings, part deux:

So, Cumulus/Art make announcement with Art's debut to happen 'soon.' Blow out in a nanosecond got me thinking... surprise, disrupt. Cumulus hasn't even inked the divorce papers with Rush yet (AFAIK) and here they come with their new Trophy Wife. Could Cumulus throwing down the gauntlet this soon, decisively, truly put the screws to Premier as far as packaging Snoron with Rush?

Given Jorch's new deal, how hard is Premier willing to fight for him?

I gots no business savvy, but I can see a quick, disruptive announcement from Cumulus cornering C2C into a not-so-good negotiating position.

As for a four month wait? Possible, but doubtful. I think Art is chomping at the bit to get on the radio now. And just because he may be going to Cumulus stations at the end of the year doesn't mean (the specifics of his deal allowing, of course) that he can't do a "soft rollout" and start syndicating himself to other venues sooner that that. Though I don't think that's going to happen. He's going to do it big right out of the gate.

Remember, C2C has already been pulled from most, if not all, Cumulus talk stations. I stand by my assertion that all Cumulus has to do is blow out the two chuckleheads who host Red Eye. Not at the end of the year, not with the expiration of Rush's contract, but now.

I really don't think Premiere gives a flying fuck about C2C. It's just a venue to air more network spots.

[Morgus]

I just noticed that the artbell.net domain is up for sale. Anyone care to opine?

That was Keith Rowland's support site for the old Art Bell CDROM he sold 10 years ago.
I guess Keith feels he doesn't need to support it anymore? 

[Ravenna]

actually there is another 'hint'
if you check Art Bell's twitter page, the only other twitter page he is a follower of is a ham radio site which has lots of photos of Pahrump with what appears to be 'cumulus' clouds in the sky...

I just followed that guy to see the photos.  Those are photos of the fire near Pahrump that was going on a week or two ago.  Art posted photos of it to his FB page that looked nearly exactly like that.  I'm thinking this guy is a neighbor of Art's, as well as a co-ham radio operator.

[GSD]

Look, I hardly care what your pissing match with GSD is - I suspect it has something to do with challenging you as a self-appointed broadcasting expert. But don't drag me into it and try to wear my ass out because I've had the effrontery to agree with him when he points out the simple fact that Stern and King are household names and Art Bell isn't.

GSD didn't say a goddam thing about ratings, jackass. He made a simple statement which is undeniably true, to the effect that both Howard Stern and Larry King are more well known to the general public than Art Bell. As much as I may detest both of those men - Stern for his aggrandizement of the most vulgar and low in humanity, and King for just being silly and shallow - nothing I think about them changes the fact they are indeed household names known to tens of millions. Art Bell might be the king of late night radio (as Larry King once was, lo these many years ago IIRC), but he's simply not as well known to the general public. That's all GSD said. So don't try to make me a whipping boy for having had the effrontery to agree with some guy you seem to have some feud with.

Correct Sardondi,

I think Kingotnw needs meds or needs to stop smoking crack.

I posted a simple comment and the dude came at me like a crazed shit house rat from out of nowhere. Every forum has a village idiot and it seems Kingotnw is him.

So far he is a:

1. Expert in entertainment law
2. Howard Stern/Gary Dell'Abate (Bababooey) Co-Worker giving him expert credibility
3. Friend to NFL players and understands the in's and out's of sports contracts
4. Knowledgable fellow regarding entertainment related contracts as he knows several celebs with them and has intimate details about their contracts

Conclusion:

The dude is full of shit.

Thanks for understanding I was simply making a simple point.

Art Bell IS NOT a household name, Howard Stern and Larry King ARE household names. Period.

As mentioned, IMHO, I think Art is easily the most talented of the three, but a household name he is not.

[popple]

Can you imagine if at the end of the bar Art just makes an announcement that he will be making an announcement shortly? "STAY TUNED" LOL

[Sardondi]

...As much as I dislike the negative Nancy and doomfapper attitude -- I'm an eternal optimist with this here Art Bell thang -- the anticipation is killing me. I can understand the sentiment of wanting to dial back the expectations, even if only for a little bit. No need to spike the football in the end zone when Coach Bell hasn't even hit the field yet.

I need to chill, take a valerian and hit reload on my iPhone all night while my crew isn't looking. Uuuuuugh.

Yeah, I still think there are going to be a lot of disappointed people when their "Revenge of Art" fantasy doesn't develop, only because they've let themselves go too far. To me, just about anything Art does, whether subscription radio or a podcast on a very relaxed schedule, is gravy. But I admit I myself will be very disappointed if he's not going to be on after midnight talking about shallow pimples hunting chalupa-squashes or pole-vaulter-guys doing goat-hunting in Urea 51 .

Correct Sardondi,

I think Kingotnw needs meds or needs to stop smoking crack.

I posted a simple comment and the dude came at me like a crazed shit house rat from out of nowhere. Every forum has a village idiot and it seems Kingotnw is him.

So far he is a:

1. Expert in entertainment law
2. Howard Stern/Gary Dell'Abate (Bababooey) Co-Worker giving him expert credibility
3. Friend to NFL players and understands the in's and out's of sports contracts
4. Knowledgable fellow regarding entertainment related contracts as he knows several celebs with them and has intimate details about their contracts

Conclusion:

The dude is full of shit.

Thanks for understanding I was simply making a simple point.

Art Bell IS NOT a household name, Howard Stern and Larry King ARE household names. Period.

As mentioned, IMHO, I think Art is easily the most talented of the three, but a household name he is not.

Hey, somebody save my seat. I'm going to get some popcorn, because this kind of entertainment is just too good to miss. Let's see, it's GSD in the white trunks, and kingotw in the black, or is the other way around?

[GSD]

LOL

[tomveil1977]

Maybe WWE will allow this scenario, how fun would that be:

** Steel Cage Match **

Art Bell (with George Knapp in his corner) vs. George Noory (with  Glynis McCants) in an all out brawl inside a steel cage.

Referee Ian Punnett

Guest Ring announcer with the voice he has: John B Wells

Special Moves: Art Bell: "Area 51 Abductor Punch" and George Noory: "Sleeper hold by the mere sound of his voice!"

(ding ding ding! and it's on!)

[MV/Liberace!]

Here's something to listen to while we're all waiting for Art to tell us What's Going On...


http://abcd.rowlandnet.com/media/goingon.ram

"I have extreme pressure in my heyad."

[Da_Brain]

I consider myself one of the nutcases 

That's nice!

[CampsieNP]

To kingotnw:
(unable to email you privately so have to post here)
Thank you for your posts and the information you have been sharing with us. I have enjoyed your posts so please do not back off. I can tell you look forward to Arts return as do most of us.
After all this time of hoping Art would come back, I for one will just enjoy this moment. Hope you do too.

[Ravenna]

I hope people aren't going to start getting mean-spirited.  I have been digging the happiness of the anticipation that's been filling this board (practically wafting off it) up until this point.   

[YNOT]

BTW,
somebody mentioned a refresh script earlier.  Opera (12 and before) has that built in. Right click and goto Reload Every...
(Not Opera 15/16 though which has sadly become a piece of shit chrome clone.)

[kingotnw]

That was Keith Rowland's support site for the old Art Bell CDROM he sold 10 years ago.
I guess Keith feels he doesn't need to support it anymore? 

Keith is no longer listed as the admin of artbell.com as of June 4. They may have had some sort of falling out and Keith just happens to own it and is able to sell it.

[GeorgieForPresident2216]

It's interesting to hear all this speculation about what combination of networks Art is going to be on but man, it is giving me a headache.  I'm Canadian.. all these Ph.D's in American networks mean nothing to me.  I've been reading the past few pages and I still can't say I understand anything about Cumulus, Redeye, Clear Channel, or what any of that means..  I'm interested in whether Art is going to satellite or traditional radio but that's it.  I guess I'm trying to say the details are interesting, but let's not get too ruffled up about it. 

Anyway that's my irrelevant post for the afternoon.