Started by AC400KICK, July 23, 2020, 10:43:29 AM
Quote from: ksm32 on July 27, 2020, 12:25:44 AMyeah that'll fix it
Quote from: AC400KICK on July 23, 2020, 10:43:29 AMThere are problems down here to be dealt with. Let's take care of them first before we play Buck Rodgers.
Quote from: Hog on July 31, 2020, 11:03:22 AMThere are MUCH better ways to save money. NASA gets around 1/2 a cent of every federal tax dollar.NASA in the last 62 years, since its inception in 1958 has received less money over those 62 years, than the USA spends on the military IN A SINGLE YEAR.'People think that NASA gets a large portion of federal funding, but it just isn't so.NASA's budget as percentage of federal total, from 1958 to 2017, look at that "bulge" in the 60's. Around 4.5% of Federal spending or around 4.5 cents of every Federal budget dollar.peaceHog
Quote from: whoozit on July 31, 2020, 03:24:35 PMDefund the defunders!
Quote from: GravitySucks on July 31, 2020, 02:20:05 PMIn 2008, between the election and the inauguration, Obama sent an advanced team to see exactly how many billions of dollars could be stripped from JSCâ€™s budget to pay for more worthwhile programs and projects. One of them commented something along the line of â€œShit, there isnâ€™t anything we can really cut. There isnâ€™t much here.â€ Well they did end up canceling the Constellation program because that was a Bush idea to go back to the moon. But congress ended up funding the SLS rocket and Orion capsule anyway. Of course they didnâ€™t have a reference mission or a destination. They just spent the last 12 years building both. Neither has flown an actual mission. There was one pad abort test of the Orion capsule. And since the SLS uses 4 refurbished Shuttle SSMEâ€™s and they donâ€™t return for reuse like the Shuttle, only 4 launches of the SLS are on the books. This has been the worst investment that NASA has ever made - maybe. It may rival JWST. But it kept a lot of engineers and civil servants working at Marshall and Stennis. I worked on Orion from January, 2007 until about May, 2015 through numerous stops and starts. In 2015, they still didnâ€™t know how many astronauts it was supposed to accommodate. The other program that is an embarrassment to NASA is the James Webb Space Telescope (JWST). I work on the from 2003 until I went to Orion in 2007. Work on it really began in 1996 as the Next Generation Space Telescope (NGST) with a proposed budget of $500 million and a planned launch date in 2007. It still hasnâ€™t launched and wonâ€™t launch until at least 2021. The budget right now is up over $10 billion. But it kept a bunch of engineers and civil servants at Goddard working. What did they use the money for? Well, it is not directly traceable but if you look at how the money from the TARP stimulus bill was spent, you will see 100â€™s, maybe thousands, of Pell grants to cosmetology and beautician schools in Sheila Jackson Leeâ€™s district.
Quote from: Radio Activity on September 02, 2022, 12:26:30 PMI'm a big space fan but NASA is off the rails. Defund it! That Artemis launch was scrubbed because of an engine that last flew on the Space Shuttle Atlantis in 1999. They're using old hardware and technology. Can someone please tell me why the Artemis program is estimated to cost $93 BILLION? The Space Shuttle cost between $1B and $1.5B for each launch. The program was canceled for being too expensive. The Artemis program, using Shuttle-era technology and hardware will cost $4B to $4.5B per launch. At least with the Shuttle, the orbiter and Solid Rocket Boosters (SRBs) were actually reusable. Not so with Artemis.Something else that isn't talked about much. The Artemis capsule will NOT take people to the surface of the moon. It only takes them to the Lunar Gateway, a small space station that will someday orbit the moon. Astronauts transfer from Artemis to the Lunar Gateway. Then they transfer again to a SpaceX Starship for the trip down to the moon's surface and back. Unbelievable. You can't make this stuff up.