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Defund NASA
« on: July 23, 2020, 11:43:29 AM »
There are problems down here to be dealt with. Let's take care of them first before we play Buck Rodgers.

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« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2020, 01:25:44 AM »
yeah that'll fix it

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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2020, 02:03:09 AM »
yeah that'll fix it

As the soon to be annointed Secretary of Space and Admiral of the Galactic Navy, I must denounce this heresy.

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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2020, 12:03:22 PM »
There are problems down here to be dealt with. Let's take care of them first before we play Buck Rodgers.
There are MUCH better ways to save money.  NASA gets around 1/2 a cent of every federal tax dollar.
NASA in the last 62 years, since its inception in 1958 has received less money over those 62 years, than the USA spends on the military IN A SINGLE YEAR.

'People think that NASA gets a large portion of federal funding, but it just isn't so.
NASA's budget as percentage of federal total, from 1958 to 2017, look at that "bulge" in the 60's. Around 4.5% of Federal spending or around 4.5 cents of every Federal budget dollar.


peace
Hog

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« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2020, 01:00:30 PM »
There are problems down here to be dealt with. Let's take care of them first before we play Buck Rodgers.

I'm with you.  Let's defund NASA and give the money to the Space Force.

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« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2020, 01:14:30 PM »
People act like we are just shooting bundles of money into space. NASA money is spent here on Earth and goes into Earth people's wallets.

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« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2020, 03:20:05 PM »
There are MUCH better ways to save money.  NASA gets around 1/2 a cent of every federal tax dollar.
NASA in the last 62 years, since its inception in 1958 has received less money over those 62 years, than the USA spends on the military IN A SINGLE YEAR.

'People think that NASA gets a large portion of federal funding, but it just isn't so.
NASA's budget as percentage of federal total, from 1958 to 2017, look at that "bulge" in the 60's. Around 4.5% of Federal spending or around 4.5 cents of every Federal budget dollar.


peace
Hog

In 2008, between the election and the inauguration, Obama sent an advanced team to see exactly how many billions of dollars could be stripped from JSCís budget to pay for more worthwhile programs and projects.  One of them commented something along the line of ďShit, there isnít anything we can really cut.  There isnít much here.Ē 

Well they did end up canceling the Constellation program because that was a Bush idea to go back to the moon. But congress ended up funding the SLS rocket and Orion capsule anyway.  Of course they didnít have a reference mission or a destination. They just spent the last 12 years building both.  Neither has flown an actual mission.  There was one pad abort test of the Orion capsule. And since the SLS uses 4 refurbished Shuttle SSMEís and they donít return for reuse like the Shuttle, only 4 launches of the SLS are on the books.  This has been the worst investment that NASA has ever made - maybe. It may rival JWST.  But it kept a lot of engineers and civil servants working at Marshall and Stennis.  I worked on Orion from January, 2007 until about May, 2015 through numerous stops and starts.  In 2015, they still didnít know how many astronauts it was supposed to accommodate. 

The other program that is an embarrassment to NASA is the James Webb Space Telescope (JWST). I work on the from 2003 until I went to Orion in 2007. Work on it really began in 1996 as the Next Generation Space Telescope (NGST) with a proposed budget of $500 million and a planned launch date in 2007. It still hasnít launched and wonít launch until at least 2021.  The budget right now is up over $10 billion.  But it kept a bunch of engineers and civil servants at Goddard working.

What did they use the money for?  Well, it is not directly traceable but if you look at how the money from the TARP stimulus bill was spent, you will see 100ís, maybe thousands, of Pell grants to cosmetology and beautician schools in Sheila Jackson Leeís district. 

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« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2020, 04:24:35 PM »
Defund the defunders!

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« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2020, 04:28:35 PM »
Defund the defunders!

+1

...I mean -1


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« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2020, 01:48:50 PM »
As a Heather Wade aficionado, I object to the nickname "the Horsehead Nebula"  >:(

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« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2020, 01:21:07 AM »
In 2008, between the election and the inauguration, Obama sent an advanced team to see exactly how many billions of dollars could be stripped from JSCís budget to pay for more worthwhile programs and projects.  One of them commented something along the line of ďShit, there isnít anything we can really cut.  There isnít much here.Ē 

Well they did end up canceling the Constellation program because that was a Bush idea to go back to the moon. But congress ended up funding the SLS rocket and Orion capsule anyway.  Of course they didnít have a reference mission or a destination. They just spent the last 12 years building both.  Neither has flown an actual mission.  There was one pad abort test of the Orion capsule. And since the SLS uses 4 refurbished Shuttle SSMEís and they donít return for reuse like the Shuttle, only 4 launches of the SLS are on the books.  This has been the worst investment that NASA has ever made - maybe. It may rival JWST.  But it kept a lot of engineers and civil servants working at Marshall and Stennis.  I worked on Orion from January, 2007 until about May, 2015 through numerous stops and starts.  In 2015, they still didnít know how many astronauts it was supposed to accommodate. 

The other program that is an embarrassment to NASA is the James Webb Space Telescope (JWST). I work on the from 2003 until I went to Orion in 2007. Work on it really began in 1996 as the Next Generation Space Telescope (NGST) with a proposed budget of $500 million and a planned launch date in 2007. It still hasnít launched and wonít launch until at least 2021.  The budget right now is up over $10 billion.  But it kept a bunch of engineers and civil servants at Goddard working.

What did they use the money for?  Well, it is not directly traceable but if you look at how the money from the TARP stimulus bill was spent, you will see 100ís, maybe thousands, of Pell grants to cosmetology and beautician schools in Sheila Jackson Leeís district.

I particularly enjoyed being served by local "NASA" contractors in the DFAC during my lovely stay in Afghanistan circa 2011-12.  They all had nice "NASA" baseball caps and mostly crisp and white chef's coats...  Many laughs were had about that, I am not sure they can be catalogued in the Book of Laughter due to sunset clauses on FOI requests.  We did enjoy this particular site:

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Man, there was this legendary red-head that was a "Bagrhram 10{11? 9?}" who had both matching curtains and drapes...  Whoa!

I think she was Russian and I bumped into her at a CONEX that had a mistakenly "lost" serial number...

Nautical Shore, but them Russian/Ukrainian contractors were an interesting bunch.

Talk about the Wild West.

I will say that the obvious Russian designed helicopters that were used by contractors were interesting;  instead of a horizontal ramp for cargo they utilized a vertical rear clam shell.  Weird looking, add in the odd number of rotor blades...

Well, they operated on the other side of the main run-way quite close to the Tower.  It was always fun to watch their operations on a slow day, just looked plain weird whatever the actual fuck they were doing over there.

It seemed like the "hajj" did not like them;  most of the rockets seemed to hit the "Russian contractor" areas.  Maybe they were terrible shots?

Nautical Shore!

Hah, g-u-d thymes.

-p