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Ian Punnett

Started by sillydog, April 06, 2008, 04:15:35 PM

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ItsOver

A triple play.  No Noory, No Frankenwells, no UFO Phil.   ;D

Morgus

Quote from: ItsOver on November 22, 2012, 06:58:46 PM
A triple play.  No Noory, No Frankenwells, no UFO Phil.   ;D
No Noory on Friday, but Wells is still hosting Saturday as usual.

ItsOver

Quote from: Morgus on November 22, 2012, 08:17:37 PM
No Noory on Friday, but Wells is still hosting Saturday as usual.

Wells has filled-in for Noory on Fridays, so we got lucky for that night.  I didn't think we'd be so lucky to enjoy a Wells-free Saturday.

HeinzTobler

Listening to Ian right now...wanting him to threaten the hoover... ;D

Oh, yay, it's Ian tonight! Noory must be on line for a Black Friday sale at the men's hair dye/shoe polish section at WalMart.

Jeff from Culver City -- there is another caller that always seems to get on.

Morgus

Ian is doing a full 4 hours of open lines with no guests at all - Noory has never done that...

Annie in Alabama was on the line but when they went to her the line was dead.

Nucky Nolan

Here comes my cognitive dissonance. I like to hear Ian challenge some callers. However, he can be needlessly combative and confrontational. A prickly, snippy Punnett is better than an ordinary, predictable Noory, though.

ziznak

Big let down from a usually stimulating host.  Normally his little quirks don't bother me but tonight somebody over torqued Ian's suck knob.

landing softly mutant!? Ian was pretty brave to do 4 hours of open lines

Morgus

Last night with a couple callers talking about GMOs, Ian just  told them don't buy foods that use GMOs and buy organic foods.
Ian must not have listened to Noory's many guests in the past on GMO foods telling how they are NOT labeled (California's proposition in the election a few weeks ago to force labeling of foods with GMOs lost for example) and also they have said many organic foods have GMO ingredients too. Ian could be eating some GMOs and not even be aware of it...

Sardondi

Quote from: Morgus on November 24, 2012, 03:19:25 PM
....Ian could be eating some GMOs and not even be aware of it...

Aha! So now we know the source of that tinnitus!

ziznak

Quote from: Morgus on November 24, 2012, 03:19:25 PM
Ian could be eating some GMOs and not even be aware of it...
Yup... you just had an organically certified burger but the cow it was made from might have been fed GMO corn.  Anything fried in Canola especially but most cooking oils they can't rule out that modified seeds haven't been used.  Basically you can't avoid it if you're not growing your own food.  I really would have thought it would be a topic Ian would at least have some basic knowledge of being a host on poop to poop but apparently not.  I still genuinely love the guy but he isn't immune from showing his asshole side on the air... especially this last run.

ChewMouse

Regarding Ian's book (How To Pray When You're Pissed At God), I have to wonder what in the world his demographic is. Does he envision this book being placed in the window of Christian bookstores? That's unlikely. Does he think church Bible groups will order infinite numbers of this book for their reading studies? Again: unlikely. And does he imagine Barnes & Noble will give this volume a place of honor on their book displays? I doubt it.

I just can't see this book selling more than about ten copies.

But...jumping topics a bit...I suspect GN is slowly but surely pushing C2C to religious programming. His horror at the book's title, his increasingly strident orders not to swear (is "pissed" swearing?), his shows about angels and spiritual matters, and of course his Friday Night Prayer Circle...this all indicates to me that he is testing the waters of a devout Christian audience.

oy vey

Nucky Nolan

Quote from: ChewMouse on November 24, 2012, 07:12:18 PM
Regarding Ian's book (How To Pray When You're Pissed At God), I have to wonder what in the world his demographic is. Does he envision this book being placed in the window of Christian bookstores? That's unlikely. Does he think church Bible groups will order infinite numbers of this book for their reading studies? Again: unlikely. And does he imagine Barnes & Noble will give this volume a place of honor on their book displays? I doubt it.

I just can't see this book selling more than about ten copies.

But...jumping topics a bit...I suspect GN is slowly but surely pushing C2C to religious programming. His horror at the book's title, his increasingly strident orders not to swear (is "pissed" swearing?), his shows about angels and spiritual matters, and of course his Friday Night Prayer Circle...this all indicates to me that he is testing the waters of a devout Christian audience.

oy vey

It might be Ian's answer to "When Bad Things Happen to Good People" by Rabbi Harold Kushner. Evangelicals may or may not buy it, as their tastes tend to be unpredictable. They aren't your daddy's Southern Baptists, to borrow a phrase. Chances are that the book will be in the pop psychology/self help sections of some bookstores, with the zillion Chicken Soup tomes, as well as old chestnuts by authors from the era of Norman Vincent Peale. It will be in the Christian sections of other bookstores since it's a hybrid, like books by Robert Schuller. You likely will find it between books by Joel Osteen and Rick Warren. The title might offend many older Christians, but it likely won't bother most younger Christians. This is a case of "you can't judge a book by its cover".

As for Noory, he can't see the forest for the trees. For the sake of appearances and propriety, he can't get past the naughty word in the title. Never mind the fact that the book might help people whose faith is challenged by tragic events in their lives. No, it's back to the Hayes Code for George "Pat Boone" Noory. In any event, his version of Coast has been like Church Chat, brought to you from the basement of the First Pentecostal Church of God, for years. Hence why so many callers and guests say that demons are behind all paranormal beings and events. It's why he has an obsession with the Nephilim. Of course, he's just playing to the fundie crowd, as well as feeding his own fascination with the dark side.   

Ian is very passive-agressive.  He has the maturity of an 8th grader.

Ian knows lots of Chrstians don't use swear words, Hell, Damn, Pissed Off, Butt, certainly the ones considered 'worse' - for some folks, even 'Shoot', 'Dang', 'Geez', 'Crap', 'Fudge' and other replacement words are also off-limits (I myself enjoy swearing and am in no way in this category). 

Ian knows all this.  Yet his childrens book is about a Mutt with a propeller Butt, his new book is about being Pissed at god.  This from a person that prides himself on his vocabulary.  I don't know what all else is going on with him, but this and other things he's said and done sure make him seem to be a phony Christian.

Nucky Nolan

Quote from: Paper*Boy on November 24, 2012, 08:10:28 PM
Ian is very passive-agressive.  He has the maturity of an 8th grader.

Ian knows lots of Chrstians don't use swear words, Hell, Damn, Pissed Off, Butt, certainly the ones considered 'worse' - for some folks, even 'Shoot', 'Dang', 'Geez', 'Crap', 'Fudge' and other replacement words are also off-limits (I myself enjoy swearing and am in no way in this category). 

Ian knows all this.  Yet his childrens book is about a Mutt with a propeller Butt, his new book is about being Pissed at god.  This from a person that prides himself on his vocabulary.  I don't know what all else is going on with him, but this and other things he's said and done sure make him seem to be a phony Christian.

I don't think that there's a fake bone in his body when it comes to this subject. He's gone out of his way to distance himself from conservative Christian beliefs. He's an Episcopalian, which is a different animal than an Evangelical. He doesn't feel the need to use pretty and proper words to convey the raw, emotional impacts of crises of faith, so "pissed" fit the bill for him.

Quote from: Nucky Nolan on November 24, 2012, 08:19:05 PM
I don't think that there's a fake bone in his body when it comes to this subject. He's gone out of his way to distance himself from conservative Christian beliefs. He's an Episcopalian, which is a different animal than an Evangelical. He doesn't feel the need to use pretty and proper words to convey the raw, emotional impacts of crises of faith, so "pissed" fit the bill for him.

You may be right.  I just really don't like Ian, so maybe I assume the worst with him.  It's hard to know what motivates someone else.  He def distances himself from what I think of when I think of Christians.

I wonder why he went to a Presbyterian seminary - don't they lean toward the Evangelical end of things?

Nucky Nolan

Quote from: Paper*Boy on November 24, 2012, 08:28:37 PM
I wonder why he went to a Presbyterian seminary - don't they lean toward the Evangelical end of things?

It was run by the Presbyterian Church (USA), which is a comparatively liberal Protestant denomination. Some member churches lean toward the conservative side, though.

mombird3

I am Jewish and the show has become almost totally about Christianity. Noory seems to drive it to that subject with almost everything. But Ian has mentioned Kushner's book in the past. As someone who is facing the challenge myself of loss of my hearing from Meniere's, I can curse at God for this. But then I do not have an answer. There is none and there are worse things!

But Noory seems to not get it yet, there are other religions. Maybe the producer wants this. Ian has mentioned Jews sometimes. And his Mazeltovh was nice to that caller. I have been turning off the religious show that Norry has done many times. I think Art did not do this. If I wanted a religious show I could tune into Sunday morning talk shows.

At least there was no UFO Phil, last night. And that was good.

Sardondi

Quote from: mombird3 on November 24, 2012, 11:35:38 PM
I am Jewish and the show has become almost totally about Christianity. Noory seems to drive it to that subject with almost everything.....But Noory seems to not get it yet, there are other religions. Maybe the producer wants this. Ian has mentioned Jews sometimes. And his Mazeltovh was nice to that caller. I have been turning off the religious show that Norry has done many times. I think Art did not do this. If I wanted a religious show I could tune into Sunday morning talk shows.

I would be surprised if Ian himself had expressed any kind of animus toward Judaism (or any religion for that matter) since he seems to come off as quite ecumenical. After all, he is a deacon in the Episcopal Church, which is the very definition of broadmindedness and a non-judgmental attitude.

Second, I've always been amazed at those Christians who view Jews negatively. However there are far, far fewer Christians today who take this view than there were 50 years ago. I think this almost certainly springs from the Roman Catholic Church's former position (rejected and reversed almost exactly 50 years ago) that Jews as an entire people were responsible for Jesus Christ's death. As a result many Roman Catholics feared and reviled Jews, whom they often called "Christ-killers". This attitude is about gone today.

IMO that loathing of Jews overlooked how much Christianity owes to Judaism, inasmuch as Christianity sprang directly from it. The Christian Bible even uses the Torah plus another 34 books of Jewish history, wisdom and prophecy (for Protestants - it's another 41 books for Catholics) to make up the Old Testament.

Also, Christians, with Protestant denominations in particular, have been among Israel's most loyal and vehement supporters. Many Protestants believe that they are commanded to honor the Jews and the nation of Israel, who remain God's chosen people (although in the mind of many Protestants, Jews are in error in rejecting Jesus as the promised Messiah). There is no question today that at least in American society the most consistent support for Israel comes from the evangelical and fundamentalist Protestant Christians. Much of this attitude goes back to Genesis Chapter 12, verse 3, in which God makes promises to Abraham (who was called Abram at that time), about the blessings and protections He would pour out on the nation that God was asking Abraham to found. God says about those who would support or oppose Israel:

              "And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee..."

So Christians have, at least in the 20th century, been quite reluctant to do anything which might be viewed as harming or opposing Israel. In postmodern America it is the atheists/agnostics and/or non-Christians who tend to be opposed to supporting Israel. 

RedMichael

Noory was shoved in front of a tv when he wasn't playing god performing scientific experiments on his ant farm. He probably has a warped view of the world based off of 1950s sitcoms where Jews, Blacks, and filthy adult language don't exist.

mombird3

I think that Ian has said many good things about Jewish people in the past. As far as the comments from Sardondi They sound valid and true.


ziznak

I cringe whenever I hear or read "the jews" referenced as if the group as a whole is some sort of friggin illuminati type organization.  In my travels I've always been able to sort of tell if somebody is Jewish but that's kinda the same with any culture/nationality.  It's just like being able to tell that Snore-boy is a smacked ass after hearing a few shows.  Ian seems to be as pro-semetic as he is pro-christian as far as I can tell. 

Nebraska888

It was great to hear Ian's voice on Coast this weekend........I know some of you don't care for him, but he is my second favorite host.  Knapp is always my first choice!  And, KNAPP hosts TONIGHT!

Nucky Nolan

Quote from: ziznak on November 25, 2012, 11:12:10 AM
I cringe whenever I hear or read "the jews" referenced as if the group as a whole is some sort of friggin illuminati type organization.  In my travels I've always been able to sort of tell if somebody is Jewish but that's kinda the same with any culture/nationality.  It's just like being able to tell that Snore-boy is a smacked ass after hearing a few shows.  Ian seems to be as pro-semetic as he is pro-christian as far as I can tell.

That's one of my pet peeves. I hate it when any large group is treated like they're monolithic in all respects. That said, I sometimes wish that Noory would do a "Michael Richards" one night and scream a string of ethnic and racial slurs. It might be the only way to get a new host.

bigchucka

Quote from: Nucky Nolan on November 24, 2012, 08:19:05 PM
I don't think that there's a fake bone in his body when it comes to this subject. He's gone out of his way to distance himself from conservative Christian beliefs. He's an Episcopalian, which is a different animal than an Evangelical. He doesn't feel the need to use pretty and proper words to convey the raw, emotional impacts of crises of faith, so "pissed" fit the bill for him.


Ian's ideal market for his new book...  Epissedcopalians.

Nucky Nolan

Quote from: bigchucka on November 25, 2012, 07:47:36 PM

Ian's ideal market for his new book...  Epissedcopalians.

It sounds like he'll be buying his own book. He sounds like he's pissed much of the time, and I don't mean that in the British sense of the word. I get pissed when I listen to Noory, and I *do* mean that in the British sense of the word. You need to get buzzed or drunk to keep from getting angry. (kidding)

mombird3

You are right. George Noory is the worst host. I like Knapp the best. Ian is my second choice. I think Wells is much better than Noory any time.

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