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Started by nooryisawesome, May 28, 2020, 07:48:30 PM

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: WOTR on September 18, 2020, 09:18:32 PM
I have been WOTR for a decade now. Some think that I may also have been Eddie Coyle... But so far I have yet to release a wave of abuse aimed at you. So I assume I am just good old WOTR. But if it puts your mind at ease, the truth is that you can just call me (Redacted.)

He’s got some nerve! You’re pratically a Bellgab luminary AND our token Canadian. ;)

P.S. Remember that Jackstar hates emoticons. ;) ;)

Jackstar

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on September 18, 2020, 09:24:00 PM
Remember that Jackstar hates emoticons.

Jackstar simply does not hate. Jackstar certainly does not hate grapefruit emoticons. Jackstar loves grapefruit emoticons. Jackstar wants to marry grapefruit emoticons. Jackstar just hates people who use grapefruit emoticons.

I do hate people who rely on them. Grrrrrr. Arrrrr! RAWR

Grapefruit is okay too--I guess. Hey can any of you recommend a good burner phone for me? Something that won't break the bank.

Silphion

Quote from: Jackstar on September 18, 2020, 10:19:05 PM
Jackstar simply does not hate. Jackstar certainly does not hate grapefruit emoticons. Jackstar loves grapefruit emoticons. Jackstar wants to marry grapefruit emoticons. Jackstar just hates people who use grapefruit emoticons.

I do hate people who rely on them. Grrrrrr. Arrrrr! RAWR

Grapefruit is okay too--I guess. Hey can any of you recommend a good burner phone for me? Something that won't break the bank.

"Grapefruit

The best living thing ever to have existed. Grapefruit is the Alpha and the Omega. It can never be called a "he" or "she", for the Grapefruit is an "It". Grapefruit is powerful, sexy, charming, seductive, outstanding, astonishing, unique, etc.The ultimate god of the fruits, Grapefruit is the most powerful fruit on earth and overpowers all veggies. It cannot be defined or explained, for Grapefruit is the unexplainable. The invincible. The almighty fruit of all time. Grapefruit has been, is, and will be. A veggie is a Grapefruit's enemy. It bows down at the throne of Grapefruit. Grapefruit is the most powerful thing in the world.

"I love Grapefruit. It is so powerful."

"Wow, that man is so handsome and charming. His name must be Grapefruit"

by Gfruitstanguello April 08, 2013" - Source: urbandictionary.com

Now we know.



WOTR

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on September 18, 2020, 09:24:00 PM
He’s got some nerve! You’re pratically a Bellgab luminary AND our token Canadian. ;)

P.S. Remember that Jackstar hates emoticons. ;) ;)
No doubt. And I'm even the leader of Pate's official American Foreign Legion I Corps, CAN. What more can a person want to prove authenticity?  :D

K_Dubb

Quote from: WOTR on September 18, 2020, 10:41:18 PM
No doubt. And I'm even the leader of Pate's official American Foreign Legion I Corps, CAN. What more can a person want to prove authenticity?  :D

Plus you apologize whenever you get mad.

K_Dubb

Quote from: WOTR on September 18, 2020, 09:09:19 PM
My apologies, sir. I had mistaken this for a forum dedicated to the master of the "long form" interview.



OK fine I'll listen but you're making me very cross.

Innerreach

Quote from: Jackstar on September 18, 2020, 10:19:05 PMGrapefruit is okay too--I guess.

As someone seemingly intelligent, why on God's green earth would you think grapefruit is okay? It tastes like sugar inoculated distilled piss..... Anybody? You know what Jackstar, I DON'T WANT TO GO TRICK-OR-TREATING WITH YOU! You let me down for the last time.

WOTR

Quote from: K_Dubb on September 18, 2020, 11:00:51 PM


OK fine I'll listen but you're making me very cross.

I'm sorry...

Nothing like public shaming / guilt.  ;D

I don't know why- but ever since I read Hedges book "death of the liberal class" I have enjoyed most of his work. I do believe he is damn intelligent- but I have also noticed that he repeats some of the same stories verbatim. He just seems like my kind of pessimist.

K_Dubb

Quote from: WOTR on September 19, 2020, 12:22:23 AM
I'm sorry...

Nothing like public shaming / guilt.  ;D

I don't know why- but ever since I read Hedges book "death of the liberal class" I have enjoyed most of his work. I do believe he is damn intelligent- but I have also noticed that he repeats some of the same stories verbatim. He just seems like my kind of pessimist.

A pessimist, oh joy.  Ok I made coffee and lit up some Escudo this is serious business.

WOTR

Quote from: K_Dubb on September 19, 2020, 12:48:25 AM
A pessimist, oh joy.  Ok I made coffee and lit up some Escudo this is serious business.
Light up some Escudo? You are serious.

I don't know if pessimist is correct. But when he talks about happiness and expectations it is not the "feel good and just be happy" BS that I usually hear. It is perhaps more a realist?

K_Dubb

Quote from: WOTR on September 19, 2020, 03:26:54 AM
Light up some Escudo? You are serious.

I don't know if pessimist is correct. But when he talks about happiness and expectations it is not the "feel good and just be happy" BS that I usually hear. It is perhaps more a realist?

No he is a real pessimist.  It is the kind of distorted perspective you get when you go sniffing around a nation's butthole(s) and armpits and market your findings to comfortable voyeurs snug in their brownstones.  He is like that lying bastard Andy Ngo who wants to persuade you that a few hundred unruly people in Portland have anything remotely to do with the fate of a nation of 300 million.  It is just fear porn.  I am frankly more worked up about the butter crisis.

Juan

For anyone to be Coyle, he’d have to know all of the cuts on Al Kooper’s “You Never Know Who Your Friends Are” album, in order, and know all the players in alphabetical order and by instrument.


WOTR

Quote from: K_Dubb on September 19, 2020, 10:10:56 AM
No he is a real pessimist.  It is the kind of distorted perspective you get when you go sniffing around a nation's butthole(s) and armpits and market your findings to comfortable voyeurs snug in their brownstones.  He is like that lying bastard Andy Ngo who wants to persuade you that a few hundred unruly people in Portland have anything remotely to do with the fate of a nation of 300 million.  It is just fear porn.  I am frankly more worked up about the butter crisis.

Wow. So I'm more BLM and socially progressive than K_Dubb? If I report you as a traitor to the cause to this Andy Gno fellow, will he dox you?  ;D

To be fair, at least you gave it a whirl. So, I have had a tab open for a few weeks now to post here for you, but kept forgetting. You can wash that evil Hedge's talking and observations out of your ears with this video. Starting around  3:48:00 you get Trumpet man not only playing but singing and preaching about BLM. Maybe just don't let him know that you are a conservative in sheeps clothing and not truly committed to his cause. (Unless, of course, you believe that anger will lead to better sex.)  ;)

*I even listened to the next 20 minutes of bullshit about "them" still gunning down black and brown men indiscriminately in the street and how we all have to fucking keep coming out night after night. After that I threw up and turned it off... So trumpet man may also be featured after the 4 hour mark, but I couldn't keep torturing myself...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0YMFtX3vp8

K_Dubb

Quote from: WOTR on September 19, 2020, 05:55:30 PM
...you are a conservative in sheeps clothing and not truly committed to his cause.



Well you know when he gets that way I just smile and look at that cute little eyetooth he has stuck way up there.

But you are trying to make an idealogue out of me.  Somebody making the case that America is a failed state and the dollar will collapse by 2030 is a pessimist -- I don't care who you are.  These protests are targeting municipal police departments with the goal of shaking loose funding for social programs like mentoring and diversion and all that squishy crap -- fine.  I tend to think most political questions are practical ones, not ideological, and this is just trying something different.  Under normal circumstances it would be a boring City Council budget meeting nobody would attend but since it's an election year and the same protesters nobody paid attention to when they occupied the same parks a few years ago can be used to panic rural rubes, the thing blows up.  Ideology is just used to herd people into their camps to vote.

Seattle is probably going to go through the most significant police reform after Minneapolis driven by George Floyd's death.  Which is a pretty tenuous connection -- we are long way from MN with a tiny black population -- but should tell you it is local politicians responding to local pressure, and if local people have a tolerance for rampaging mobs demanding social justice (we have a long history of leftist unrest going back to the Wobblies) it's just people getting the government they want.  I am a little-r republican who loves to see the discomfiture of the powerful as a sign of a healthy democracy, and there have been a lot of powerful people severely discomfited recently.  Both the mayor and our bomb-throwing socialist city councilwoman are facing recall petitions now -- how's that for an instant referendum?  Almost as good as a guillotine.  We love to see it, and hope to see more.

Butter standards, on the other hand, are set by the FDA and are truly a national issue.

WOTR

Quote from: K_Dubb on September 19, 2020, 07:38:39 PM

But you are trying to make an idealogue out of me.  Somebody making the case that America is a failed state and the dollar will collapse by 2030 is a pessimist -- I don't care who you are.  These protests are targeting municipal police departments with the goal of shaking loose funding for social programs like mentoring and diversion and all that squishy crap -- fine.
Seattle is probably going to go through the most significant police reform after Minneapolis driven by George Floyd's death. 

Fiat is on borrowed time. It would have collapsed awhile back- but every country went to the same "faith and credit of a central government" model and removed options. There is no fiat currency in thousands of years of history that has not ended in massive inflation wiping out citizens. There is no reason to believe that the USD (or CAD) will be any different. Again, it is unique in that every country is on floating currency now...

I don't know how to respond to dialogue. My leftist handlers have only taught me to scream the loudest and assume that will win an argument. This is new territory.

I suppose that I am closest to a libertarian. But with a bit of a twist. It would have been at least a decade ago that I read a paper by a libertarian (I think posted to the Von Missus Institute?) that argued that until you level the playing field and pull government out of deciding winners and losers that you need to provide social programs and something for those who can not "make it."

The arguement was that the government gives millions to Ma Bell and routs competition. They provide regulatory hurdles for small companies to start up and compete against their big corporate donors. They regulate who can and cannot perform tasks (the one cited was flower arranger in a certain state- you have to be certified because either the government is worried about having to protect the public from bad flower arrangements, or they are excluding groups of people from earning a living at a trade protecting their friends in the florist's union.) There was no mention on standards for doctors or even gas fitters... I assume the author thought those would need to go too and the market would weed out the individuals who killed their patients regularly or blew up customers houses with poor workmanship.


Where was I? Ah, yes. Defunding. That seems like a brilliant idea. Who needs police when you can have no police? It would appear that even some Minneapolis Councillors are starting to think that they might need them...

https://twitter.com/FrancisBrennan/status/1306231842148888576

Jackstar

Quote from: WOTR on September 19, 2020, 09:19:17 PM
I don't know how to respond to dialogue.

Listen closely, then practice telepathy to be persuasive more and more. Watch body language, observe where their eyes go, try to get their involuntary twitches to sync up with your ideas. It can be quite a dance.

Alternately, kick them square in the dick and say, "I was just pretending to love you, omg you're an idiot, I can't take it anymore." This works especially well once one realizes that you probably already want to kick them anyway, it's merely a matter of timing and location.

Staring at their tits can also work in some circumstances, but a dialogue is really quite a display of one's moment in time. People tell you all about themselves, and if we just listen to them, it's easy to figure out what is going on with them, mostly. Also, if we pretend like we're done just listening, and keep listening while behaving as if one is not paying attention, it can often be quite possible to catch duper's delight at the most fortunate instant to win all the marbles in one fell swoop.

I wouldn't strive for that. It's not all its cracked up to be. Where to put them all? Unless you're some kind of freak who wishes to hold all the marbles all the time.

Now, there's a dialogue. You probably sat there scratching your balls as usual, but at least you had a chance.

pate

Quote from: WOTR on September 19, 2020, 09:19:17 PM
Fiat is on borrowed time. It would have collapsed awhile back- but every country went to the same "faith and credit of a central government" model and removed options. There is no fiat currency in thousands of years of history that has not ended in massive inflation wiping out citizens. There is no reason to believe that the USD (or CAD) will be any different. Again, it is unique in that every country is on floating currency now...

I don't know how to respond to dialogue. My leftist handlers have only taught me to scream the loudest and assume that will win an argument. This is new territory.

I suppose that I am closest to a libertarian. But with a bit of a twist. It would have been at least a decade ago that I read a paper by a libertarian (I think posted to the Von Missus Institute?) that argued that until you level the playing field and pull government out of deciding winners and losers that you need to provide social programs and something for those who can not "make it."

The arguement was that the government gives millions to Ma Bell and routs competition. They provide regulatory hurdles for small companies to start up and compete against their big corporate donors. They regulate who can and cannot perform tasks (the one cited was flower arranger in a certain state- you have to be certified because either the government is worried about having to protect the public from bad flower arrangements, or they are excluding groups of people from earning a living at a trade protecting their friends in the florist's union.) There was no mention on standards for doctors or even gas fitters... I assume the author thought those would need to go too and the market would weed out the individuals who killed their patients regularly or blew up customers houses with poor workmanship.


Where was I? Ah, yes. Defunding. That seems like a brilliant idea. Who needs police when you can have no police? It would appear that even some Minneapolis Councillors are starting to think that they might need them...

https://twitter.com/FrancisBrennan/status/1306231842148888576



That was Italian, right?

K_Dubb

Quote from: WOTR on September 19, 2020, 09:19:17 PM
Fiat is on borrowed time. It would have collapsed awhile back- but every country went to the same "faith and credit of a central government" model and removed options. There is no fiat currency in thousands of years of history that has not ended in massive inflation wiping out citizens. There is no reason to believe that the USD (or CAD) will be any different. Again, it is unique in that every country is on floating currency now...

I don't know how to respond to dialogue. My leftist handlers have only taught me to scream the loudest and assume that will win an argument. This is new territory.

I suppose that I am closest to a libertarian. But with a bit of a twist. It would have been at least a decade ago that I read a paper by a libertarian (I think posted to the Von Missus Institute?) that argued that until you level the playing field and pull government out of deciding winners and losers that you need to provide social programs and something for those who can not "make it."

The arguement was that the government gives millions to Ma Bell and routs competition. They provide regulatory hurdles for small companies to start up and compete against their big corporate donors. They regulate who can and cannot perform tasks (the one cited was flower arranger in a certain state- you have to be certified because either the government is worried about having to protect the public from bad flower arrangements, or they are excluding groups of people from earning a living at a trade protecting their friends in the florist's union.) There was no mention on standards for doctors or even gas fitters... I assume the author thought those would need to go too and the market would weed out the individuals who killed their patients regularly or blew up customers houses with poor workmanship.


Where was I? Ah, yes. Defunding. That seems like a brilliant idea. Who needs police when you can have no police? It would appear that even some Minneapolis Councillors are starting to think that they might need them...

https://twitter.com/FrancisBrennan/status/1306231842148888576

Yeah I am sure the good people of Minneapolis will do a lot of soul-searching back and forth over the police but I am not about to tell them they are wrong for doing so.  That sort of thing is the very essence of politics, absolutely right and proper.

I did appreciate his religion-based critique of materialism and the suspicion of power based on the belief that human nature is inherently evil or at least eminently corruptible but, while that sort of thing might be unusual in that setting, it is bog-standard Protestantism for those of us who grew up that way.

Juan

The fiat currency and corporatism trace back to the Whigs and particularly Henry Clay of Kentucky.  Another Kentuckian turned Illinois Whig turned Republican put the whole thing into place, killing 600,000 soldiers and uncountable tens of thousands of civilians in the process.  Abraham Lincoln.

K_Dubb

Yeah yeah I know the type you guys probably have half a ton of silver under the floorboards and when I clean your hovel out after you croak I'm gonna need a wheelbarrow.


WOTR

Quote from: Juan on September 20, 2020, 09:18:15 AM
The fiat currency and corporatism trace back to the Whigs and particularly Henry Clay of Kentucky.  Another Kentuckian turned Illinois Whig turned Republican put the whole thing into place, killing 600,000 soldiers and uncountable tens of thousands of civilians in the process.  Abraham Lincoln.

You ever feel like most people don't want to hear it?

Quote from: Jackstar on September 19, 2020, 10:47:07 PM
Alternately, kick them square in the dick and say, "I was just pretending to love you, omg you're an idiot, I can't take it anymore." This works especially well once one realizes that you probably already want to kick them anyway, it's merely a matter of timing and location.

Thanks, Jack. I'll keep my eyes open for opportunities.

Jackstar

Quote from: WOTR on September 20, 2020, 01:25:52 PM
You ever feel like most people don't want to hear it?

Sometimes when someone goes "stop talking, I don't want to hear it!" The correct answer here is, "I don't want to hear about what you don't want to hear about." This stymies the headsander. There's no continuance here. You don't want it; I don't want it. Then one automatically gets the floor after establishing dominance.

HOTFIX: Capitalized The Floor to better represent its importance at this important period of history.


Quote from: WOTR on September 20, 2020, 01:25:52 PM
Thanks, Jack. I'll keep my eyes open for opportunities.

I've got the strangest feeling today. Did I go supercritical? Tell me I went supercritical. Grapefruit is returning. I know, right? It's uncanny!


Hey, so, that Gabcast that I was excluded from? I'm gonna take a big ol' nasty megashit so the place will be ready for her return. I know, this sounds horrifying, but there are good reasons. For one, it beats being excluded from a Gabcast.

Secondly, when I say "okay, you lying, imbecilic Mongoloid retard, remember when I told you a year ago that we had to have couples counseling? We're doing that now," I want there to be something smelly to compare a baseline on. I know this sentence structure doesn't sound right, but I've been told there are some things I'm not allowed to talk about.



By the way: all y'all thought you knew what was going on, right? Think again. This whole pop stand is backed up from here to Timbuktu. I suspect my stolen phone has something to do with it. It's a hunch, as the kaspersky website won't accept logins. What a coinkydink. I'm thinking of shifting from cough syrup to Raisin Bran. This should really help get those numbers up.



WOTR

Quote from: K_Dubb on September 20, 2020, 09:30:30 AM
Yeah yeah I know the type you guys probably have half a ton of silver under the floorboards and when I clean your hovel out after you croak I'm gonna need a wheelbarrow.

Perish the thought! I checked today, and silver is "down" 10% in the last 24 hours. I'm sure that my poor heart could not possibly bear the roller coaster that is silver. Nope, I would far rather high yielding 5 year treasury bonds that pay a nice, steady negative interest rate and are backed by "faith" than something silly like precious metals. 

I mean, why risk being "down" 10% in one day when I could just lose a nice, steady guaranteed .1 percent each year by purchasing the "gold standard" bond of the US?

K_Dubb

Quote from: WOTR on September 21, 2020, 11:50:53 PM
Perish the thought! I checked today, and silver is "down" 10% in the last 24 hours. I'm sure that my poor heart could not possibly bear the roller coaster that is silver. Nope, I would far rather high yielding 5 year treasury bonds that pay a nice, steady negative interest rate and are backed by "faith" than something silly like precious metals. 

I mean, why risk being "down" 10% in one day when I could just lose a nice, steady guaranteed .1 percent each year by purchasing the "gold standard" bond of the US?

Fascinating will you be taking your shirt off or otherwise losing it any time soon?



ItsOver

Quote from: K_Dubb on September 22, 2020, 09:53:45 AM
Fascinating will you be taking your shirt off or otherwise losing it any time soon?


How great would a shirtless WOTR be, still with gas mask, appearing on a YouTube GabCast?

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