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Obama orders public schools to be perv-friendly

Started by VtaGeezer, May 13, 2016, 09:44:59 AM

VtaGeezer

The Obama Admin ordered today that cross dressers and wannabee pervs shall be allowed to use the public school restrooms and locker rooms in which they feel comfie.  Not quite the force of law, but they'll use Title 9 Fed fund allocation as the hammer.  It's astonishing how a microsliver of emotional freaks in society have wrapped the liberal establishment around their little finger in scarcely a decade to accommodate the culture of f'ing pervs.  I suppose giving the pervs their own facilities would be discriminatory.  The arrogance of the order is breathtaking.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-administration-to-instruct-schools-to-accommodate-transgender-students/2016/05/12/0ed1c50e-18ab-11e6-aa55-670cabef46e0_story.html?tid=a_inl

albrecht

Quote from: VtaGeezer on May 13, 2016, 09:44:59 AM
The Obama Admin ordered today that cross dressers and wannabee pervs shall be allowed to use the public school restrooms and locker rooms in which they feel comfie.  Not quite the force of law, but they'll use Title 9 Fed fund allocation as the hammer.  It's astonishing how a microsliver of emotional freaks in society have wrapped the liberal establishment around their little finger in scarcely a decade to accommodate the culture of f'ing pervs.  I suppose giving the pervs their own facilities would be discriminatory.  The arrogance of the order is breathtaking.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-administration-to-instruct-schools-to-accommodate-transgender-students/2016/05/12/0ed1c50e-18ab-11e6-aa55-670cabef46e0_story.html?tid=a_inl
This doesn't surprise me, he is going full on to "fundamentally change." And there might be some personal motives if one holds any credence to the the persistent rumors. But even if they aren't true at all- this singularity and focus of this character Obama on minor issues of the BLTQH "community," which his own CDC says is less than 3% of the population is bizarre. Excepting the promotion of open-borders and Islamic migration/jihad why this character chooses to focus so much attention and energy to this minor issue is beyond me! Not the economy. Not the problems of Veteran suicide (and their secret waiting lists and jokes about dying Vets at the VA.) Not the real problems in our schools. Not terrorism. Not about healthcare. Not about the wars he ended (but is sending more troops in, drones, and money to his radical "springers" and "rebels.") Not even about his fellow blacks (whose situation has gotten worse under the Obama economy and Obama Doctrine of open-borders.) But always, always, about homosexuality or whatever gender bending antics. It is weird.

Juan

If Morphiaflow had only been patient, he could now identify as a 10-year old boy/girl and not be in trouble.

VtaGeezer

Quote from: Juan on May 13, 2016, 10:31:56 AM
If Morphiaflow had only been patient, he could now identify as a 10-year old boy/girl and not be in trouble.
I don't know who Morphiaflow is and I don't think I want to.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: VtaGeezer on May 13, 2016, 11:00:38 AM
I don't know who Morphiaflow is and I don't think I want to.

He was a paedophile who was jailed, and not transgender. He was also heterosexual and a Rush fan..go figure. But you're an idiot because you're equating transgender people with paedophilia.  Sure you call them cross dressers to give your stupidity some purile gravitas, but you're not that clever to know the difference.

mikuthing01

If a man ever attacks my wife in a women's bathroom i will be breaking every bone in his degenerate body if hes wearing a dress or not. Obama can suck a dick.

ItsOver

Heh.  The world doesn't end with a bang, it ends with a leak and a dump.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: mikuthing01 on May 13, 2016, 11:49:27 AM
If a man ever attacks my wife in a women's bathroom i will be breaking every bone in his degenerate body if hes wearing a dress or not. Obama can suck a dick.

Yes, who wouldn't?  But don't conflate being transgender with sexually assaulting women. The same as most paedophiles are heterosexual, and on top of that, over 80% of kids who are abused, are abused by a family member. Usually a male heterosexual.

Still, why let facts get in the way of a good rant at Obama?

EarthAlien007

Quote from: mikuthing01 on May 13, 2016, 11:49:27 AM
If a man ever attacks my wife in a women's bathroom i will be breaking every bone in his degenerate body if hes wearing a dress or not. Obama can suck a dick.

Do you really think a man who chose to become a woman is interested in attacking your wife? Seriously?


chefist

At this point why have separate facilities at all? Why have male and female locker rooms? Put wall urinals in all the female restrooms and open them up for everyone!

This is just another smoke cloud to cover up the larger issues...

Quote from: chefist on May 13, 2016, 12:05:05 PM
At this point why have separate facilities at all? Why have male and female locker rooms? Put wall urinals in all the female restrooms and open them up for everyone!

This is just another smoke cloud to cover up the larger issues...

Yeah exactly. I am in complete support of the LBGTBBQ community but... why is this an issue and why did it get steamrolled in? Was this really an issue?

VtaGeezer

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on May 13, 2016, 11:09:49 AM
He was a paedophile who was jailed, and not transgender. He was also heterosexual and a Rush fan..go figure. But you're an idiot because you're equating transgender people with paedophilia.  Sure you call them cross dressers to give your stupidity some purile gravitas, but you're not that clever to know the difference.
You've taken the bait for the pervs' agenda.  A boy who thinks he's a girl needs therapy, not a key to the girls' showers.  What's stupid is overturning fundamental social foundations by edict because a few sex-obsessed freaks gain enough wealth in entertainment to influence politics.  The wise knew this was coming when Ed Sullivan put those long-haired fairies from Britain on TV.

norland2424

Quote from: VoteQuimby on May 13, 2016, 12:06:35 PM
Yeah exactly. I am in complete support of the LBGTBBQ community but... why is this an issue and why did it get steamrolled in? Was this really an issue?

Why is the name longer now lol, and it's just obama trying to have a " legacy" , i do agree its just a smoke screen for more important shit.

EarthAlien007

Quote from: chefist on May 13, 2016, 12:05:05 PM
At this point why have separate facilities at all? Why have male and female locker rooms? Put wall urinals in all the female restrooms and open them up for everyone!

This is just another smoke cloud to cover up the larger issues...

What's wrong with people using the bathroom that matches their body parts? If a woman transgenders to a man and now has guy parts, would you like him using the same bathroom as your wife and daughter?

What's the larger issue?
It's 2016 and some folks still want to shit on gay people?

chefist

Quote from: EarthAlien007 on May 13, 2016, 12:11:59 PM
What's wrong with people using the bathroom that matches their body parts? If a woman transgenders to a man and now has guy parts, would you like him using the same bathroom as your wife and daughter?

What's the larger issue?
It's 2016 and some folks still want to shit on gay people?

The President's orders specifically state "identify", the appropriate "parts" are not required...and stating the opinion that if you have a pee pee you should go to the men's room, and if you have a vjj you should go to the lady's room is not homophobic...

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: EarthAlien007 on May 13, 2016, 12:11:59 PM
What's wrong with people using the bathroom that matches their body parts? If a woman transgenders to a man and now has guy parts, would you like him using the same bathroom as your wife and daughter?

What's the larger issue?
It's 2016 and some folks still want to shit on gay people?

I've known well one transgendered male/female and met two others socially. The one I know well has no interest in sex at all, has a daughter and far from having any nefarious intent on anyone, is one of the most kind, generous and supportive people I've ever met. The same can't be said of every heterosexual male I know or have met. It's weird how the vast majority of sexual assaults and rapes are perpetrated by straight males...There's probably an explanation.

I don't even know the politically correct terms this week anymore but I've known some dudes who switched teams to varying degrees. I have a tough time believing they'd really have an issue quietly going into a woman's restroom and doing their thing. I never even heard of anything remotely being a problem like this back when I lived in a socialist paradise.

Quote from: EarthAlien007 on May 13, 2016, 12:11:59 PM
What's wrong with people using the bathroom that matches their body parts? If a woman transgenders to a man and now has guy parts, would you like him using the same bathroom as your wife and daughter?

What's the larger issue?
It's 2016 and some folks still want to shit on gay people?

How is it "shitting on gay people" to question why this trans-bathroom issue is getting forced on Americans and what does current year have to do with anything?

VtaGeezer

Quote from: EarthAlien007 on May 13, 2016, 11:54:04 AM
Do you really think a man who chose to become a woman is interested in attacking your wife? Seriously?
I don't care much about the public toilet issue.  Stalls take care of that.  But locker rooms are a different and much more serious personal issue.  This rule forbids providing a transgender changing room, unless individual rooms are provided for all:

From the order: “When a school provides sex-segregated activities and facilities, transgender students must be allowed to participate in such activities and access such facilities consistent with their gender identity,”

Piss on the rights of the adolescent boys and girls to their personal modesty and what they may believe to be fundamental virtue.

pyewacket

Quote from: VtaGeezer on May 13, 2016, 09:44:59 AM
The Obama Admin ordered today that cross dressers and wannabee pervs shall be allowed to use the public school restrooms and locker rooms in which they feel comfie.  Not quite the force of law, but they'll use Title 9 Fed fund allocation as the hammer.  It's astonishing how a microsliver of emotional freaks in society have wrapped the liberal establishment around their little finger in scarcely a decade to accommodate the culture of f'ing pervs.  I suppose giving the pervs their own facilities would be discriminatory.  The arrogance of the order is breathtaking.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-administration-to-instruct-schools-to-accommodate-transgender-students/2016/05/12/0ed1c50e-18ab-11e6-aa55-670cabef46e0_story.html?tid=a_inl

The only logical solution that would serve the greatest good would be to have a third bathroom/changing room option. That is if you apply the philosophy of Utilitarianism, which simply stated is: the belief that a morally good action is one that helps the greatest number of people.

These gender laws appear to do the complete opposite. They will harm not only the people who object to them but also the transgendered themselves. There will be deviants and sex offenders who will exploit these laws for their own purposes and people will be victimized. The transgendered will be viewed as the cause whether they've done anything wrong or not.

I'm pretty sure they've been using the bathrooms with no one objecting for many years now. I've met several at stores and my kids knew a cross dressing guy, who was fun to shop with. I can't see any of them wanting to attract this kind of attention.

This will not end well- there are already new stories about creepy men hanging out in the women's restrooms.

 


VtaGeezer

Quote from: pyewacket on May 13, 2016, 12:32:18 PM
The only logical solution that would serve the greatest good would be to have a third bathroom/changing room option. That is if you apply the philosophy of Utilitarianism, which simply stated is: the belief that a morally good action is one that helps the greatest number of people.
A third faclity; toilet, changing room or shower, is implicitly banned.  They must have access to the facility they "identify" with.  So what of the horny 16 yo boy who feels like a girl this week?  Who's to decide whether he's looking for a peek or gender-confused young person.  All the concern is for the perv's feelings; none for the others who's privacy/modesty/morals he/she would be invading.

Seems to me that this social crisis didn't exist before MTV and Boy George.

NowhereInTime

Quote from: pyewacket on May 13, 2016, 12:32:18 PM
The only logical solution that would serve the greatest good would be to have a third bathroom/changing room option. That is if you apply the philosophy of Utilitarianism, which simply stated is: the belief that a morally good action is one that helps the greatest number of people.

These gender laws appear to do the complete opposite. They will harm not only the people who object to them but also the transgendered themselves. There will be deviants and sex offenders who will exploit these laws for their own purposes and people will be victimized. The transgendered will be viewed as the cause whether they've done anything wrong or not.

I'm pretty sure they've been using the bathrooms with no one objecting for many years now. I've met several at stores and my kids knew a cross dressing guy, who was fun to shop with. I can't see any of them wanting to attract this kind of attention.

This will not end well- there are already new stories about creepy men hanging out in the women's restrooms.



News flash.  Creepy men have been invading women's rest rooms since the dawn of rest rooms.  Of course, your argument presumes the worst case scenario where some deviant malcontent will exploit this law to accost people (of either gender) when there is no evidence to support claim.  This is yet another conservative classic red herring to shout like Chicken Little about the hordes or pervs invading the girls bathroom at the elementary school.  Not too preposterous. 

This is just like the Ebola epidemic (you remember, the one that killed millions of Americans like you all said it would?) where cries of "every epidemic horror movie has a seen where a doctor tells us there's nothing to panic about".  Glad you guys called that one!

Scream on, chicken little...

NowhereInTime

Quote from: VoteQuimby on May 13, 2016, 12:18:31 PM
I don't even know the politically correct terms this week anymore but I've known some dudes who switched teams to varying degrees. I have a tough time believing they'd really have an issue quietly going into a woman's restroom and doing their thing. I never even heard of anything remotely being a problem like this back when I lived in a socialist paradise.

Yeah, back in the good old days when faggots, queer-o-sexuals, freaks, trannies, etc. people who did not follow the "social norm" kept to their shadows.

Keep suppressing those "different" malcontents!  Maybe they'll move to Africa and set up "Queersylvania"!

albrecht

Quote from: NowhereInTime on May 13, 2016, 01:04:55 PM
News flash.  Creepy men have been invading women's rest rooms since the dawn of rest rooms.  Of course, your argument presumes the worst case scenario where some deviant malcontent will exploit this law to accost people (of either gender) when there is no evidence to support claim.  This is yet another conservative classic red herring to shout like Chicken Little about the hordes or pervs invading the girls bathroom at the elementary school.  Not too preposterous. 

This is just like the Ebola epidemic (you remember, the one that killed millions of Americans like you all said it would?) where cries of "every epidemic horror movie has a seen where a doctor tells us there's nothing to panic about".  Glad you guys called that one!

Scream on, chicken little...
But now it is legal and we must be forced to accommodate them? As far as the "3rd bathroom" or "3rd locker-room" idea...where does it stop? Because, I thought, things have changed that guys that liked dressing up like girls weren't homosexual but it just was some fetish. And there is the whole deal of simply dressing up or actually having surgery. Are all trannies, or whatever, are homosexual or not or what? We might need a dozen bathrooms to "accommodate" all possible weird derivations. Or maybe just a whole bunch of single stalls and single showers and changing rooms? Even that won't stop the creepy coach or some pervert on the internet putting in a cam though....but hey, that is thier "identity" so who can blame them? Maybe they should be "accommodated" also?
Anyway, I'm off to the Kappa House showers, I'm identifying as a sorority chick this afternoon.....

Quote from: NowhereInTime on May 13, 2016, 01:07:12 PM
Yeah, back in the good old days when faggots, queer-o-sexuals, freaks, trannies, etc. people who did not follow the "social norm" kept to their shadows.

Keep suppressing those "different" malcontents!  Maybe they'll move to Africa and set up "Queersylvania"!

...so do you become any more coherent when you calm down?

NowhereInTime

Quote from: VoteQuimby on May 13, 2016, 01:26:30 PM
...so do you become any more coherent when you calm down?

Like I'm the one who's incoherent.  Conservatism has ever been the home of hypocrisy.  I'm actually happy, in a depressing sort of way, to use this picture twice in one day of what an actual pervert looks like:


Quote from: NowhereInTime on May 13, 2016, 01:32:30 PM
Like I'm the one who's incoherent.  Conservatism has ever been the home of hypocrisy.  I'm actually happy, in a depressing sort of way, to use this picture twice in one day of what an actual pervert looks like:

So I'm guessing the answer is no.

NowhereInTime

Quote from: albrecht on May 13, 2016, 01:22:25 PM
But now it is legal and we must be forced to accommodate them?

Or, you know, treat them with them same respect you with which you would expect to be treated.

QuoteAs far as the "3rd bathroom" or "3rd locker-room" idea...where does it stop?

Maybe at building gender neutral bathrooms.  How many of you have urinals at home?

QuoteBecause, I thought,[ things have changed that guys that liked dressing up like girls weren't homosexual but it just was some fetish.

And you are the precisely the kind of person who would dwell on such things.  You, the ultimate arbiter of racial, socio-economic, and now gender based justice.

QuoteAnd there is the whole deal of simply dressing up or actually having surgery.

Millions do it every day.

QuoteAre all trannies, or whatever, are homosexual or not or what?

Sure, all of them.

QuoteWe might need a dozen bathrooms to "accommodate" all possible weird derivations.

And there it is again.  The Nth case scenario.  Wildly over exaggerate the barest possible permutations to found and reinforce your right to discriminate.  You never fail to disappoint.  At least in this sense.

QuoteOr maybe just a whole bunch of single stalls and single showers and changing rooms?

Again, gender neutral bathrooms.  As in your household?  Or are you so discriminatory that you mandate which bathroom is exclusively attributed to which family member?

QuoteEven that won't stop the creepy coach

Like Denny Hastert?

Quoteor some pervert on the internet putting in a cam though....

Good thinking, because that's never happened before!!

http://www.ksat.com/news/man-accused-of-hiding-camera-inside-womens-restroom

http://www.snopes.com/transgender-filming-women-restroom/

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Secret-Recording-Store-Mall-Antelope-Valley-Palmdale-Restroom-207541101.html


Quote...but hey, that is thier "identity" so who can blame them? Maybe they should be "accommodated" also?
Anyway, I'm off to the Kappa House showers, I'm identifying as a sorority chick this afternoon.....

Hey, you may actually get to see live female breasts without having to "make it rain"!

Really, you are hours of fun!

chefist

Quote from: VoteQuimby on May 13, 2016, 01:33:58 PM
So I'm guessing the answer is no.

This issue us going to backfire big time on the Dems...most women don't want men in their restrooms...AND most in the lesbian community don't want anyone born with a penis in their restrooms either...

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