20151203 - Sally Vander Veer - Marijuana - Live Art Bell Chat Thread

[=Schlyder=]

I saw something new on Drugs, Inc. which is like peanut brittle which is pretty dangerous to make and pricey.

that is called shatter... it is like peanut brittle.  just a hard, thin sheet of resin, that is brittle. Thus they named it "shatter"

[albrecht]

Damn hippies want us to smoke weed cause the commie plot and no work. And I'll drink my Jim Beam and drive drunk to your commune after my dead-end job and happy-hour to kick your pinko ass!
Kidding. Having said that. I don't "buy" the marihuana/marijuana solves all things as I've been told for so long! And it isn't a good thing to use but a gateway drug. Like most things, including booze, water, milk, etc but with a bit more correlation. Not sure why the "movement" has turned away from the industrial use stuff? That was more historically/economically a better claim?

[=Schlyder=]

I believe what you're describing is a butane extraction which is insane. I bought a book a few months ago read up on different extraction methods and familiarize myself. It's like they're trying to turn marijuana into meth.

A lot of the grey and black grows houses around here have exploded when growers start dicking around with chemistry and don't know what they're doing.

no different than some guy's still blowing up LOL

[zeebo]

that is called shatter... it is like peanut brittle.  just a hard, thin sheet of resin, that is brittle. Thus they named it "shatter"

yep that's it! ... personally I don't get it, what's so hard about just putting some bud in a pipe, i.e. why re-engineer it

[albrecht]

Mushrooms won't do a damn thing to you, permanently.

How about these?

[=Schlyder=]

This is called a honey bee extractor

https://www.google.com/search?q=honey+bee+extractor&hl=en-GB&rlz=1T4GGHP_en-GBCA498CA498&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjU7rTaz8HJAhXlhoMKHWjJAKQQsAQINw&biw=1920&bih=953

it is used for butane extraction.  al you need is weed and a can of clean butane, and a pyrex cakepan

[JamesMcDonald]

I've always wanted to try those things.  But I wanted to wait until I was old, just in case I damage my brain.  Maybe I'm being too paranoid.

Most people don't really understand the nature of hallucinogenics. There is a lot of speculation and discussion about brain damage being caused by hallucinogenics. Most of it is untrue. Having said that, if you decide hey I'm going to take acid every day for the next 6 months well all bets are off. But that's not the point of them. That's not the way you use those kinds of drugs. They're meant to be taken in extreme moderation and with a very careful mental and psychological and physical preparation. The point is though, when you do take those kinds of drugs, you learn a lot more than you ever thought possible. About yourself, the world, the universe, so much that it's almost impossible to explain in words.

[TigerLily]

yup ..posted a page back and got 1 response lol

Sorry, I got behind doing stuff. I'm so sorry to hear this. Another great talent lost to us. I'm assuming OD?

[ziznak]

I liked hearing art say "buds" earlier

[zeebo]

This caller says coke isn't addictive ... not sure about that one ...

[SciFiAuthor]

Same here, unless it's Jack Daniels. Jack makes me a mean ornery bastard - hence, I don't drink it.

There are several that affect me differently. I get ornery on Jack Daniels as well, no idea why, so I never touch the stuff. Also I found this shit in Ireland called Buckfast that I got drunk on and whatever the fuck is in that made me insane for the night. 

[chandlerkaiden]

How about these?

Yeeeah, that sucker looks like it'd kill you if you just looked at it the wrong way.

[Ciardelo]

This caller says coke isn't addictive ... not sure about that one ...

Crack? pretty sure it should be on the "addictive" list.

[JamesMcDonald]

This caller says coke isn't addictive ... not sure about that one ...

It's extremely addictive. And it's extremely disgusting. My opinion on that one, and my advice is to stay far away from it.

[=Schlyder=]

I'm good with buds man, I don't know need to blow my kitchen up pursuing some uber high that's just going to put me to sleep. 

LOL I am the same.   I make the occasional batch of isopropyl extraction oil, and butane extractions.  But it is just for special occasions, or when you really have a craving for something a little different for a change.

[TigerLily]

When I was going through a big break up Interstate Love Song was my song. I played that CD to death. Rest on a higher plane, Scott

[Zenman]

The only problem is that it gets too cold in Colorado in the winter. Brrr...
I'll wait for warmer states to see the light.

Next 7 states in line to legalize:
CA
NV
AZ
Maine
Mass
VT
Missouri

Currently four statesâ€"Alaska, Colorado, Oregon, and Washingtonâ€"and the District of Columbia have ended pot prohibition.

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

Most people don't really understand the nature of hallucinogenics. There is a lot of speculation and discussion about brain damage being caused by hallucinogenics. Most of it is untrue. Having said that, if you decide hey I'm going to take acid every day for the next 6 months well all bets are off. But that's not the point of them. That's not the way you use those kinds of drugs. They're meant to be taken in extreme moderation and with a very careful mental and psychological and physical preparation. The point is though, when you do take those kinds of drugs, you learn a lot more than you ever thought possible. About yourself, the world, the universe, so much that it's almost impossible to explain in words.

Damn well put.

[albrecht]

Yeeeah, that sucker looks like it'd kill you if you just looked at it the wrong way.

Obviously, I would never eat. But appears every years at same place. For 4 years, on a tree I cut down. And never lasts that long. And pretty big! So interesting how quickly can grow.

[Spinner]

Important show! Art has big influence and maybe it will help move the sludgy states to accept the truth. Thanks Aldous and Heather!

Hopefully people are listening, learning, and getting inspired to do their own research. Once people realize that it's not just about getting high, they will be more inclined to support initiatives in their state.

[albrecht]

There are several that affect me differently. I get ornery on Jack Daniels as well, no idea why, so I never touch the stuff. Also I found this shit in Ireland called Buckfast that I got drunk on and whatever the fuck is in that made me insane for the night.

Shit, I thought Buckfast was only in Glasgow? And I never had, but seen the Neds. I imagine it was like that 4Loco stuff recently?

[GravitySucks]

Obviously, I would never eat. But appears every years at same place. For 4 years, on a tree I cut down. And never lasts that long. And pretty big! So interesting how quickly can grow.

Sounds like it is calling you...

[chandlerkaiden]

Obviously, I would never eat. But appears every years at same place. For 4 years, on a tree I cut down. And never lasts that long. And pretty big! So interesting how quickly can grow.

I hear it only takes a month or so to do a batch of the magic kind, start to finish.  Never done it myself, but it's a much shorter cycle than tonight's topic.

[QuantumMystics]

[Ciardelo]

back atcha Big Boy!

[Spinner]

Who's on the phone with Art?

[zeebo]

...Currently four statesâ€"Alaska, Colorado, Oregon, and Washingtonâ€"and the District of Columbia have ended pot prohibition.

Thanks ZM ... I was too, um, distracted to look up this info ... being in Oregon.   :

[NefariousBanana]

Who's on the phone with Art?

It was me.

[SciFiAuthor]

Shit, I thought Buckfast was only in Flasgow?

No, this was in Newry, Northern Ireland. I was visiting some friends and they convinced me to get drunk on it and it was definitely the normal me that night.

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

There are several that affect me differently. I get ornery on Jack Daniels as well, no idea why, so I never touch the stuff. Also I found this shit in Ireland called Buckfast that I got drunk on and whatever the fuck is in that made me insane for the night. 

Maybe it was infused w/ Jimson weed from the Datura family(an alkoloid.) I've heard of that being done before.
Jimson(Loco)-Weed