Redacted did an awesome job!

[SredniVashtar]

There is a reason why Wayne has more assists than any other player has points. He knew when not to shoot and when someone else was in a better position to score.

Yes, but passing is sometimes also a sign of lack of confidence. Taking the initiative is risky - you might fail and you get criticized by your team. Take a risk-free approach and you might not get into trouble with your team-mates, but the chances are you won't do anything special either.

That's the point.

[Bart Ell]

Yes, but passing is sometimes also a sign of lack of confidence.

Nobody likes a puck hog.
Do you even hockey, brah?
Chunga 2.0
Art knows, he will adjust because he is the king of what he does.

Gretzky to Lemieux.... We know how that one ends.

[SredniVashtar]

Do you even hockey, brah?

Certainly not, of all the ghastly ideas!

You might hock like a motherfucker, it doesn't make difference. The point is that if you listen to everyone telling you that you are no good (and the sources of that proliferate by the day, it seems) then you will never do much. There are ranks of people who have never done anything remotely interesting in their lives and want to keep everyone else down as well. 

[Bart Ell]

I haven't heard any of this yet

Oh boy is your face going to turn red when you finally listen and hear how bad an idea this all was! You are acting like Wayne Gretzky was taking a shot when we got Keith Gretzky. I would have settled for Brent. Nope, we got Keith.

[SredniVashtar]

Oh boy is your face going to turn red when you finally listen and hear how bad an idea this all was! You are acting like Wayne Gretzky was taking a shot when we got Keith Gretzky. I would have settled for Brent. Nope, we got Keith.

Maybe, but I'm not sure I will even listen as this was a test and the real deal starts tonight. I was in an argumentative mood anyway and felt like taking you to task a bit. And, no, I am not comparing her to The Great One. I'm probably just as critical as people as you are, but I do try and keep an open mind. And I don't think (Redacted) is someone who justifies quite the kind of ire she has received in the last few hours. Utterly predictable ire, by the way, as there was no way a lot of people would have given her a fair shake in the first place, and I'm sure she knew that.

[Bart Ell]

Maybe, but I'm not sure I will even listen as this was a test and the real deal starts tonight. I was in an argumentative mood anyway and felt like taking you to task a bit. And, no, I am not comparing her to The Great One. I'm probably just as critical as people as you are, but I do try and keep an open mind. And I don't think (Redacted) is someone who justifies quite the kind of ire she has received in the last few hours. Utterly predictable ire, by the way, as there was no way a lot of people would have given her a fair shake in the first place, and I'm sure she knew that.

Sometimes you get a Duffman and sometimes you get a Poochie.
We got a Poochie.

[Richard Groyper]

I am in Art's corner on this. His show, his money, his risk, his decision. I get that some may not like another voice. That is fair. The other stuff, fuck them.

As far as I can see, most people have been quite kind regarding (redacted). Most bellgab posters seem to like her even if they would prefer her not co-hosting. In my opinion, Art, should host alone. Good luck to you (redacted).

What do you mean by "other stuff" onan?

[SredniVashtar]

As far as I can see, most people have been quite kind regarding (redacted). Most bellgab posters seem to like her even if they would prefer her not co-hosting. In my opinion, Art, should host alone. Good luck to you (redacted).

What do you mean by "other stuff" onan?

Someone mentioned elsewhere that Art may be leaning towards lightening the load a little bit for himself (by looking at someone to co-host or have some significant input) so that he is not the sole man doing all the work. I think that is a good point, in view of his age. If that gives us more Art over a longer period (albeit slightly diluted) than a brief but glorious run before he gets too tired, then I think it is something worth considering. I haven't seen a lot of the discussion regarding (Redacted) but people ought to put their internet personas aside a little bit and acknowledge that she is perfectly likeable and not deserving of any hate. She's not Dave ffs. Perhaps she is not right for this gig, but she's just someone doing her best. If it isn't up to the mark then fine, but tone it down a bit because we all have feelings.

[onan]

As far as I can see, most people have been quite kind regarding (redacted). Most bellgab posters seem to like her even if they would prefer her not co-hosting. In my opinion, Art, should host alone. Good luck to you (redacted).

What do you mean by "other stuff" onan?

Someone made a comment suggesting (Redacted) weighed 400 pounds. That kind of stuff. If someone doesn't like a style, I get that. I mean chocolate and vanilla cover most of it but some want strawberry. I have never met (redacted), but I have talked with her several times. She is always pleasant, courteous, interested, and very well versed in her topics and opinions.

[PathoJen]

Nobody wanted to give Chunga a second chance.
Chunga 2.0

Good point.

[onan]

Chunga started out with deception. So there is that.

[PathoJen]

That's you being a sexy adult again  . You have a point, though; I never even heard that show and I am prepared to believe that he was as bad as everyone said. The difference in this case is that we know a little bit more about the person involved, and that she's not some carpetbagger out for a bit of cheap publicity. Like a lot of people here, she is a fan and was prepared to put herself out there, which surely demands a certain amount of respect. It's as genuine as these things get, even if it doesn't happen to be to your taste. I prefer Art as unadulterated as possible, though, but I am open to the idea of a second voice on occasion.

Yes, WE at BG know her, but the rest of the world doesn't and is a lot less warm and fuzzy about it. I wonder how Art himself felt about the dynamic between he and Redacted., never mind what people outside of BG thought. I would be curious. He has said in the past that when someone is in his space, it messes up his groove, referring to the time a British news crew wanted to "sit in" while Art was broadcasting.

[albrecht]

Someone mentioned elsewhere that Art may be leaning towards lightening the load a little bit for himself (by looking at someone to co-host or have some significant input) so that he is not the sole man doing all the work. I think that is a good point, in view of his age. If that gives us more Art over a longer period (albeit slightly diluted) than a brief but glorious run before he gets too tired, then I think it is something worth considering. I haven't seen a lot of the discussion regarding (Redacted) but people ought to put their internet personas aside a little bit and acknowledge that she is perfectly likeable and not deserving of any hate. She's not Dave ffs. Perhaps she is not right for this gig, but she's just someone doing her best. If it isn't up to the mark then fine, but tone it down a bit because we all have feelings.

I think it is a good idea for Art to have backup hosts in the works, even if not due to "age" but everyone needs a break sometimes, gets ill, takes a vacation, etc. I don't like the co-host or side-kick model for radio but it is his show and let's see how it goes. I won't excuse or accept "age" excuses. Milt Rosenberg is 90 and going strong in Chicago radio (with a very interesting and legitimate show with thought-provoking guests) and I know many "old people" who are still out working on the farm, law office, yard, etc at Art's age. 70 is the new 40.

ps: I have no problem with disliking or criticizing the voice or content etc, personally I think (R) did a fine job but still don't want co-host, but personal or sexist attacks to me seem stupid and irrelevant. It is radio. All that matter is the voice, content, delivery, etc.

[SredniVashtar]

Yes, WE at BG know her, but the rest of the world doesn't and is a lot less warm and fuzzy about it. I wonder how Art himself felt about the dynamic between he and Redacted., never mind what people outside of BG thought. I would be curious. He has said in the past that when someone is in his space, it messes up his groove, referring to the time a British news crew wanted to "sit in" while Art was broadcasting.

As I said before, I haven't heard it yet. I just don't like the whole 'pile on' thing, especially when it is aimed at someone evidently sincere. It may well be that it was just a bad idea. The one time I heard Phil Hendrie with a co-host it was an unutterable, pooch-screwing clusterfuck of epoch-making awfulness. Some people don't need any help, and are diminished when they get it. But, Art isn't getting any younger and maybe he needs someone to take up the slack occasionally. We ought to consider that, no?

[FightTheFuture]

I just listened to the show. I thought people were saying Art had changed the format and was now using a co-host -- which, clearly, is not the case.

I don`t have any real problem with someone helping out a bit here and there. Just as long the show retains all it`s old charm. For what it`s worth, Redacted seems like a nice girl. She`ll probably do well.

[b_dubb]

I though Redacted did great especially when you consider Skype kept dropping her. It was a test. Don't get your JP Mucklestones all knotted up over a test.

[Diabhal]

I've listened to shows where Linda Molton Howe shows (I have a huge pain threshold) audibly held a phone up to another radio for hours so I think people will calm down and accept it once they realise it isn't a Morning Zoo Crew thing. She did pretty well though from the little bits I heard.

[PathoJen]

I though Redacted did great especially when you consider Skype kept dropping her. It was a test. Don't get your JP Mucklestones all knotted up over a test.

I am not sure "Skype kept dropping her" ..... I think it was more that as Art tried to disconnect other Skype callers, he was hanging up on (R) too....I wonder if there is actually a way to hang up on only one caller when you are on a conference call...is that even a term anymore? Conference call.

[janmartinn]

Hey guys i guess im some kind of fuck tard cuz i did not get a notice about a pre show from darkmatter dig bullshit even though i paid my 5 bucks
keith rowland is going down

[Freyja]

Redacted, I just wanted to say that you did a wonderful job last night on Art's test show. You sounded calm, cool, collected despite likely being more than nervous. Congrats and kudos to you!!

Please don't let all the nay sayers get to you. Some are trolls, some are envious, some don't like change etc.

Personally, as an avid talk radio listener for many years, I don't really care for hosts who use "side kick" hosts/hostesses like Stern and many others. That said, you and Art do have a nice chemistry on the air. Having listened to Art for many years as many others have, it is very different to hear him with a "co-host" scenario.

Although at this point I think I would prefer to hear Art without a co-host, I would be more than happy to see how your chemistry with Art and Open Lines grows. This could really be a good thing...I hope that both Art gives you that opportunity and that the listeners are flexible, open minded and kind as Midnight in the Desert blossoms.

Best of luck and great job on the MITD test show!!

[HK-50]

As far as I can see, most people have been quite kind regarding (redacted). Most bellgab posters seem to like her even if they would prefer her not co-hosting. In my opinion, Art, should host alone. Good luck to you (redacted).

This exactly, and no disrespect to Redacted, she's quite capable and I like her, but let's be real, Art is the draw, Art is the headliner.  People don't show up to watch the local opening act; that's when they're out buying beer and t-shirts. 

A drunken podcast with a few friends on an internet forum is one thing - a national show with a professional broadcaster who can draw millions of listeners is quite another. I almost feel some Bellgabers have mistakenly allowed their casual association with Art to take on more meaning than it ever should - again, Art Bell is the only draw on BellGab, no one else, no, not even Dave from what's left of "Coast".

As long as MITD remains The Art Bell Show and not a glorified GabCast, then everything should be fine.  I just don't want to see Art's new show devolve into nothing more than the people on this forum talking to one another on air - we can get that anytime on GabCast.

[Bart Ell]

Please don't let all the nay sayers get to you. Some are trolls, some are envious, some don't like change etc.

Should she only let some of the nay sayers get to her?
Can't someone just not like something?
I thought she sounded like a female Jason Alexander doing his Captain Kirk impersonation.
I thought Art sounded great.
I think Keith is in over his head.
I hope the show is on for years to come.

[GuerrillaUnReal]

This exactly, and no disrespect to Redacted, she's quite capable and I like her, but let's be real, Art is the draw, Art is the headliner.  People don't show up to watch the local opening act; that's when they're out buying beer and t-shirts. 

A drunken podcast with a few friends on an internet forum is one thing - a national show with a professional broadcaster who can draw millions of listeners is quite another. I almost feel some Bellgabers have mistakenly allowed their casual association with Art to take on more meaning than it ever should - again, Art Bell is the only draw on BellGab, no one else, no, not even Dave from what's left of "Coast".

As long as MITD remains The Art Bell Show and not a glorified GabCast, then everything should be fine.  I just don't want to see Art's new show devolve into nothing more than the people on this forum talking to one another on air - we can get that anytime on GabCast.

Between the Skype fuck ups and Redacted randomly in the background, it did come across as Art Bell hosting the Gabcast. What was nice though was there was only a few mentions of BellGab and callers from all over the place calling in last night. I think the vehement reaction against Red is a good thing because it shows Art's listening base already dwarves the few hundred people on here. No offense, but why would anyone aside from BellGabbers know about Red, care about Red or think it's a good idea to have her on the show? I think he probably already has more listeners than he did at his peak on Sirius where every other caller was someone from here dragging the show down obsessing on him for two or three minutes.

[Jackstar]

Can't someone just not like something?

Well, actually, no. It turns out that humans have preferences for reasons.

[Richard Groyper]

This exactly, and no disrespect to Redacted, she's quite capable and I like her, but let's be real, Art is the draw, Art is the headliner.  People don't show up to watch the local opening act; that's when they're out buying beer and t-shirts. 

A drunken podcast with a few friends on an internet forum is one thing - a national show with a professional broadcaster who can draw millions of listeners is quite another. I almost feel some Bellgabers have mistakenly allowed their casual association with Art to take on more meaning than it ever should - again, Art Bell is the only draw on BellGab, no one else, no, not even Dave from what's left of "Coast".

As long as MITD remains The Art Bell Show and not a glorified GabCast, then everything should be fine.  I just don't want to see Art's new show devolve into nothing more than the people on this forum talking to one another on air - we can get that anytime on GabCast.

Well said. 

[Bart Ell]

Well, actually, no. It turns out that humans have preferences for reasons.

You mean beyond being a troll, hater or just plain envious? Do tell...

[PathoJen]

This exactly, and no disrespect to Redacted, she's quite capable and I like her, but let's be real, Art is the draw, Art is the headliner.  People don't show up to watch the local opening act; that's when they're out buying beer and t-shirts. 

A drunken podcast with a few friends on an internet forum is one thing - a national show with a professional broadcaster who can draw millions of listeners is quite another. I almost feel some Bellgabers have mistakenly allowed their casual association with Art to take on more meaning than it ever should - again, Art Bell is the only draw on BellGab, no one else, no, not even Dave from what's left of "Coast".

As long as MITD remains The Art Bell Show and not a glorified GabCast, then everything should be fine.  I just don't want to see Art's new show devolve into nothing more than the people on this forum talking to one another on air - we can get that anytime on GabCast.

Well said.
I'm about to brag., I got Art 2 subscribers today just from posting that awesome punk rock looking flyer to my FB page. YEEESSSS!

[PathoJen]

Should she only let some of the nay sayers get to her?  NO
Can't someone just not like something? NO
I thought she sounded like a female Jason Alexander doing his Captain Kirk impersonation. WTF
I thought Art sounded great. YES!!!!!
I think Keith is in over his head. YES!
I hope the show is on for years to come. HELL TO THE YES

[NW Kro͞oˈsādər]

such an articulate lady and fit well with art bell on the show

I agree 100%!!!I was on the TuneIn chat on the DMRN and there were those asking if Art had a co-host! Not one complaint! If Art wanted to have a co-host I wouldn't complain especially if it was Redacted! Folks, How old is Art? Just think about it. Got to say there were so many folks on the app last night chatting. Many couldnt get the TuneIn app to stream. I helped a bunch of folks there. It went from 13k in chats to almost 16k in 12 hours.

It was also funny as Art was giving his shout-outs and I told the chat room Bellgab was going to get their share. Art didn't disappoint. He knows he has a loyal base here.

Anyways bravo Redacted! Job well done! I am certain Art appreciated it, as much as we did!

[Dr Who]

well I think Redacted done well and I enjoyed the show not only that but some of the comments in the other forum were just pure vile fucking assholes.