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George Knapp

Started by ArtBellFan, April 27, 2008, 09:05:01 AM

yumyumtree

Quote from: Designx on March 23, 2014, 11:56:13 PM
Congrats on Ted Talks for weeding out the Coast trash.
That's kind of what I thought.

Designx

Quote from: zeebo on March 23, 2014, 11:59:01 PM
Haha, yeah I don't know about this lady but what's the big deal, don't they have a right to pick which content they find appropriate for their brand?   They have some pretty wild stuff so I don't think they're exactly close-minded.  And what's this going on about "militant athiests", and what does athiesm have to do with crop circles anyway?   

It seemed like she was marketing her program as something other than crop circles. I think she knew she would never be considered for Ted Talks if she was upfront about her subject matter.

Quote from: yumyumtree on March 23, 2014, 11:30:50 PM
Speaking of PTSD, is it just me or does everybody and their brother these days seem to have PTSD? I never like to jump to conclusions or make assumptions, but it seems to me that it may be being over-diagnosed.



Good question.  Or, perhaps PTSD was under diagnosed in earlier times. I know my father was never the same after Korea.  He drank himself to death at the tender age of 46. He never once visited a head shrinker.

I am told by the experts at the VA, there are ways to seperate the wheat from the chaff. I dont know what the answer is.

yumyumtree

I think she said that because if you spend any time reading skeptic writings or visiting their websites, you notice that a lot of them are also atheists or have an anti-religion bias. Militant atheists are the kind of people who need to get some business if their own to mind, and stop making a career of being offended. But protesting a cross on a mountain someplace thats been there for 40 years and not wanting Suzanne Taylor to be guaranteed a forum isn't the same thing. TED gets to make their own rules. It sounds like they handled her a little clumsily, by changing the rules on her and so on, but they still get to make the rules. Hard though it may be to believe, I think there's evidence that all the crop circles are frauds.

"Naked women swimming in green liquid?" I want to see a picture of this guy.

yumyumtree

Quote from: FightTheFuture on March 24, 2014, 12:13:41 AM

Good question.  Or, perhaps PTSD was under diagnosed in earlier times. I know my father was never the same after Korea.  He drank himself to death at the tender age of 46. He never once visited a head shrinker.

I am told by the experts at the VA, there are ways to seperate the wheat from the chaff. I dont know what the answer is.

Sorry about your father.

I've just been noticing PTSD included in laundry lists of other problems. It's something I always associated with war, or other extreme traumas, maybe being a victim if a horrific crime, severe child abuse, hostage situations, ordeals like plane crashes, etc. And if course these people might have things of that magnitude in their pasts, but it seems unlikely that so many of them would. One woman who used to live in this building said she had to move because other tenants playing Scrabble aggravated her PTSD. Another one was complaining in a Neighborhood Association Meeting about construction noise that was aggravating her PTSD. Seriously?

TEDx embraces Breatharians but shuns Ms. Taylor. Interesting.

onan

Quote from: yumyumtree on March 24, 2014, 12:29:31 AM
Sorry about your father.

I've just been noticing PTSD included in laundry lists of other problems. It's something I always associated with war, or other extreme traumas, maybe being a victim if a horrific crime, severe child abuse, hostage situations, ordeals like plane crashes, etc. And if course these people might have things of that magnitude in their pasts, but it seems unlikely that so many of them would. One woman who used to live in this building said she had to move because other tenants playing Scrabble aggravated her PTSD. Another one was complaining in a Neighborhood Association Meeting about construction noise that was aggravating her PTSD. Seriously?

PTSD is pervasive. It also has a wide spectrum of severity. One problem with mental illness diagnoses is the misunderstanding of the practical use of that diagnosis. A mental illness diagnosis is similar to any other medical diagnosis. People still need to engage in their lives, the diagnosis isn't a pass to avoid living. If one has diabetes they have to avoid excessive carbohydrates, they don't stop eating. If one loses a leg they don't stop ambulating. It seems to me the people that avoid scrabble or social gatherings may also be demonstrating some level of a personality disorder... which is quite likely.

To bore you even further... it is quite common to avoid crowds if one has a history of PTSD. Since PTSD is one of several anxiety disorders, any anxiety producing situation may well induce enough stress to cause a person to suffer.

yumyumtree

Thanks. It didnt bore me.

Not bad, tonight. Not quite as interesting as I had hoped.

The good news is, George announced that he would be doing the Saturday night show, as well as the Sunday night show, next week.

Abby Normal

George Knapp is still my favorite Coast host, after Art Bell, by far.  But I was a little more than disappointed to hear him defend CNN by saying "the supernatural" should be on the table when discussing the missing Flight 370. 

There's going to be a lot of speculation when an airliner goes missing.  On an entertainment show like Coast to Coast, that specializes in the supernatural, sure, throw supernatural explanations into the mix.  Why not?  That's what the Coast audience likes to hear at 3 in the morning.  Remote viewers. Psychics.  Crackpots.  Looney Toons.

But CNN?  Or any mainstream NEWS media?  Not if they want to keep their credibility and their audience.  There is an explanation for Flight 370.  A rational one.  It didn't fly into a black hole.  It didn't fly into another dimension.  George W. Bush or Barack Obama didn't take it.  The Illuminati didn't take it. The passengers and crew weren't abducted by aliens.

It's taking awhile to find out - just like the crash of Air France Flight 447.  It took two years to recover the Flight 447 black boxes.

If Flight Flight 370 went down in the Indian Ocean, it could take awhile.  It's a vast ocean and it's deep.  Chances are good we'll find out - that it went down due to mechanical reasons.  Or maybe the pilot did it on purpose, as happened to an Egypt Air flight.  Or it was hijacked.

But for CNN and other mainstream NEWS media to throw supernatural stories into the mix is beyond ridiculous and I was disappointed to hear George Knapp suggest they should be.  That, in my opinion, would be like giving televangelists and creationists equal time on Neil Degrasse Tyson's new COSMOS series, as some creationists are demanding.  Or giving creationists equal time in public school and university science classes.


wr250

Quote from: Abby Normal on March 24, 2014, 08:36:20 AM
George Knapp is still my favorite Coast host, after Art Bell, by far.  But I was a little more than disappointed to hear him defend CNN by saying "the supernatural" should be on the table when discussing the missing Flight 370. 

There's going to be a lot of speculation when an airliner goes missing.  On a show like Coast to Coast, that specializes in the supernatural, sure, throw supernatural explanations into the mix.  Why not?  That's what the Coast audience likes to hear at 3 in the morning.  Remote viewers. Psychics.  Crackpots.  Looney Toons.

But CNN?  Or any mainstream media?  Not if they want to keep their credibility and their audience.  There is an explanation for Flight 370.  A rational one.  It didn't fly into a black hole.  It didn't fly into another dimension.  George W. Bush or Barack Obama didn't take it.  The Illuminati didn't take it. The passengers and crew weren't abducted by aliens.


It's taking awhile to find out - just like the crash of Air France Flight 447.  It took two years to recover the Flight 447 black boxes.

If Flight Flight 370 went down in the Indian Ocean, it could take awhile.  It's a vast ocean and it's deep.  Chances are good we'll find out - that it went down due to mechanical reasons.  Or maybe the pilot did it on purpose, as happened to an Egypt Air flight.  Or it was hijacked.

But for CNN and other mainstream media to throw supernatural stories into the mix is beyond ridiculous and I was disappointed to hear George Knapp suggest they should be.  That, in my opinion, would be like giving televangelists and creationists equal time on Neil Degrasse Tyson's new COSMOS series, as some creationists are demanding.  Or giving creationists equal time in public school and university science classes.


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you mean there was no angels or portals involved?  gee noory will be depressed about that. well at least a couple of kids died , that might cheer morbid george up a bit.
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Abby Normal

Quote from: wr250 on March 24, 2014, 08:53:12 AM

[sarcasm]
you mean there was no angels or portals involved?  gee noory will be depressed about that. well at least a couple of kids died , that might cheer morbid george up a bit.
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I'm always half asleep when I listen to Coast to Coast.  But, if I'm not mistaken, George Noory, using his own brand of deductive reasoning, closed the case last week.  He said Flight 370 is on the ground somewhere.  The airline doesn't know that yet.  The investigators from Malaysia, China, Vietnam, the US, Australia and India don't know that.  But George does.  Case closed.

Now George Knapp thinks it's okay and proper for CNN to suggest that, just perhaps, Flight 370 was the subject of another "Philadelphia Experiment."

That show really gives me heartburn sometimes.

VtaGeezer

Knapp does seem to be leaning into paranormal hooey rather more sharply lately. When supernatural manifestations are extended to reality, like missing airliners, we are reminded why we're often reluctant to admit that we're C2C listeners.

Nebraska888

Quote from: FightTheFuture on March 24, 2014, 03:00:19 AM
Not bad, tonight. Not quite as interesting as I had hoped.

The good news is, George announced that he would be doing the Saturday night show, as well as the Sunday night show, next week.

I enjoyed it too......it was a good program but not completely enthralling.  And, HOORAY that we can look forward to Knapp two nights next weekend!

Nebraska888

Quote from: Birdie on March 23, 2014, 11:34:33 PM
It is the little things that count. I really appreciate how George Knapp goes to breaks smoothly and announces the bumper music. And I appreciate his professionalism, in general. I know it will never happen, but I would be so happy if he were the M-F host.


Only in a perfect world could this happen.   8)

zeebo

Quote from: Nebraska888 on March 24, 2014, 10:56:31 AM
I enjoyed it too......it was a good program but not completely enthralling.  And, HOORAY that we can look forward to Knapp two nights next weekend!

Yeah I agree it wasn't amazing but still a kind of cool show.  If nothing else, it caused me to add a new word to my vocabulary:  polymath.

Juan Cena

Quote from: wr250 on March 24, 2014, 08:53:12 AM

[sarcasm]
you mean there was no angels or portals involved?  gee noory will be depressed about that. well at least a couple of kids died , that might cheer morbid george up a bit.
[/sarcasm]

There has to be something seriously Freudian about Snoory's portal obsession.

zeebo

Nice, we get a Knapp show on Sat. nite, and you just know he'll go nuts with the Beatles stuff!

Astrobiology/ Beatles Secrets
Date:    03-29-14
Host:    George Knapp
Guests:    Richard B. Hoover, Bob Spitz

In the first half, George Knapp is joined by Richard B. Hoover, who established the Astrobiology Research Group at the NASA/Marshall Space Flight Center in 1997. They'll discuss valid evidence for living or fossil organisms elsewhere in the solar system. Followed by Beatles biographer, Bob Spitz, who'll share secrets of The Beatles, and true stories about the group you've never heard.


aldousburbank

Quote from: Juan Cena on March 24, 2014, 08:41:35 PM
There has to be something seriously Freudian about Snoory's portal obsession.
Note the work of Stanislov Grof and his peri-natal trauma, psychological template research. Me thinks that George needs some therapy, some acid, a pacifier, and maybe some fuzzy slippers in order to explore this territory.

bigchucka

Quote from: zeebo on March 28, 2014, 08:48:03 PM
Nice, we get a Knapp show on Sat. nite, and you just know he'll go nuts with the Beatles stuff!

Astrobiology/ Beatles Secrets
Date:    03-29-14
Host:    George Knapp
Guests:    Richard B. Hoover, Bob Spitz

In the first half, George Knapp is joined by Richard B. Hoover, who established the Astrobiology Research Group at the NASA/Marshall Space Flight Center in 1997. They'll discuss valid evidence for living or fossil organisms elsewhere in the solar system. Followed by Beatles biographer, Bob Spitz, who'll share secrets of The Beatles, and true stories about the group you've never heard.


I'd define "going nuts with The Beatles stuff" as doing four shows in a row on it, .ie CtM a couple weeks ago...

RedMichael

Quote from: yumyumtree on March 23, 2014, 11:30:50 PM
Speaking of PTSD, is it just me or does everybody and their brother these days seem to have PTSD? I never like to jump to conclusions or make assumptions, but it seems to me that it may be being over-diagnosed.
Shrinks becoming shamans? Does this have anything to do with Obamacare? Does this mean they'll dress up in funny costumes and masks? Some things make me grateful that I'm scheduled to be dead in another couple of decades.

I think they found out its really common but in the past it was just a fact of life. But its funny you mention the shrinks. You know the medical industry gets most of its money from insurance. Thats why a glass of water at a hospital can run you 50 dollars sometimes. It would make sense that we treat everything under the sun from their stand point. I

I don't know if ptsd qualifies you for any gov benefits but I look at those things as more of "we make it too easy for people to qualify" than put it on the people who take them. I mean, what fool wouldn't?

I wish I was scheduled to die in the next few decades. I'd like some of that social security I am paying into.

onan

Quote from: RedMichael on March 29, 2014, 04:52:37 PM
I think they found out its really common but in the past it was just a fact of life. But its funny you mention the shrinks. You know the medical industry gets most of its money from insurance. Thats why a glass of water at a hospital can run you 50 dollars sometimes. It would make sense that we treat everything under the sun from their stand point. I

I don't know if ptsd qualifies you for any gov benefits but I look at those things as more of "we make it too easy for people to qualify" than put it on the people who take them. I mean, what fool wouldn't?

I wish I was scheduled to die in the next few decades. I'd like some of that social security I am paying into.

Yes in some cases people get disability with the diagnosis of PTSD. But your reference to making it too easy. It isn't. Your understanding of PTSD is probably limited. Yes PTSD is more common than thought a couple of decades ago. Most of those diagnoses do not meet the level of severity to qualify for disability.

So let me tell you of someone that does qualify. She is over 40 and was severely brutalized physically and sexually for more than 20 years. She can't sleep for prolonged periods of time. She can't move about in the normal day to day. She is petrified of strangers, crowds of more than 3 people. If she is startled she can become catatonic for days. And for this torment... she is able to scam all of us hard working folk. To the tune of 715 dollars a month. Her co-pay for the 5 medications she takes to help with her anxiety, depression, and sleeplessness cost her almost 20 dollars. Her two rooms she rents (which she is lucky to get) cost her 475 dollars (a miraculous bargain for a safe boarding home) So with what is left she has to pay her utilities, and buy her food. She is definitely getting over...

albrecht

Quote from: onan on March 29, 2014, 05:54:37 PM
Yes in some cases people get disability with the diagnosis of PTSD. But your reference to making it too easy. It isn't. Your understanding of PTSD is probably limited. Yes PTSD is more common than thought a couple of decades ago. Most of those diagnoses do not meet the level of severity to qualify for disability.

So let me tell you of someone that does qualify. She is over 40 and was severely brutalized physically and sexually for more than 20 years. She can't sleep for prolonged periods of time. She can't move about in the normal day to day. She is petrified of strangers, crowds of more than 3 people. If she is startled she can become catatonic for days. And for this torment... she is able to scam all of us hard working folk. To the tune of 715 dollars a month. Her co-pay for the 5 medications she takes to help with her anxiety, depression, and sleeplessness cost her almost 20 dollars. Her two rooms she rents (which she is lucky to get) cost her 475 dollars (a miraculous bargain for a safe boarding home) So with what is left she has to pay her utilities, and buy her food. She is definitely getting over...
A sad thing and hopefully she is doing better. Of course there are actually people who need help. Nobody denies that. I think the debate is more properly how best to take care of people with real needs and eliminate the costs of middle-men/administration or fraud. And whether costs are better paid for locally, state, private foundations, national level, churches, or families, etc. What is really awful is that we, our government which means us, is creating the problem in more people via wars and cynically dismissing soldiers with problems so that units "look better" in stats and to avoid costs of treatment. Of course we end up paying in other ways down the road. The numbers of suicides, broken families, drug abuse, unemployment directly caused by our government policy etc is the story that the news should be have on BOLD face, front page. Not missing planes or whatever in the Ukraine.

Nebraska888

Knapp in 15 minutes....enjoying SIT at the moment.   :)

Designx

Knapp and the god damn Beatles - I told myself the first mention of them I turn the radio off.. so that was quick. 

zeebo

Quote from: Designx on March 29, 2014, 11:16:27 PM
Knapp and the god damn Beatles - I told myself the first mention of them I turn the radio off.. so that was quick.

I'll take the Fab Four anyday over Noory's obsession with shmaltzy ballads from the likes of Bobby Darin, Frakie Valli, and Bing Crosby.  Put on some Revolver or Abbey Road - it may improve your outlook.  :)

ZHero

BILL: the asshole, autistic, astronomer got through again!  Sounded like he was on his
3rd speedball for the night!  ;D.  Bill must have a special line to C2C

zeebo

Quote from: ZHero on March 30, 2014, 12:53:28 AM
BILL: the asshole, autistic, astronomer got through again!  Sounded like he was on his
3rd speedball for the night!  ;D.  Bill must have a special line to C2C

Was he the one rambling on about Art Bell & George Noory and all this evidence he was gonna lay out about exobiology until Knapp basically cut him off?  Or was that a different a-hole?

ZHero

Quote from: zeebo on March 30, 2014, 12:56:36 AM
Was he the one rambling on about Art Bell & George Noory and all this evidence he was gonna lay out about exobiology until Knapp basically cut him off?  Or was that a different a-hole?
It was Hartford Bill.  He had that over excited slightly "RainMan" demeanor.  I heard
he also calls other talk radio shows as well? Dating sites? Lol, or was that that another asshole?

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