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Art Bell Quits Dark Matter

Started by DesertFox, November 01, 2013, 08:13:24 AM

lightningline

Quote from: DesertFox on November 11, 2013, 04:08:35 PM




I don't believe this at all.  You THINK it was someone from Premier on a forum.  Come on, dude!  Little less paranoia and reality based thinking would be good.  Premier ain't going to give a crap about posters on a forum or anywhere else.

The moderator traced the IP addy to premier Ohio...so Yes..someone from Premier is concerned..I struck a cord...look at what I posted..

This is really a remarkable chapter in the evolution of media. When Apple created the iPod and iTunes, it revolutionized the music business. Today, we have Amazon and Netflix creating and distributing their own Internet-only TV programming - and the programs are winning Emmy awards! Now, Sirius, and other entities in the "new" radio broadcasting arena are mature enough and capitalized highly, and they are changing the way people listen to talk radio. This episode between AB and Sirius will be studied for years. It may well be the turning point that changes the relationship between the big names in talk radio, and the platforms that distribute their content in the future.

Bigfoot

Quote from: whatatrip on November 11, 2013, 04:13:14 PM
Yes, I am serious. Sirius failed to deliver the show in a manner that perpetuated listeners. They breached the reasonable expectations of the show. When confronted with their obvious shortcomings and failure to deliver,  they bailed, they left AB hanging and the listeners hanging.

IMO and in my experience, Sirius could sue AB if he went ahead and did his show. In order to get monetary compensation or to cause AB to cease and desist, Sirius would have to show damages. They have no show that competes with DM, hence no damages and no cease and desist. They brought upon themselves their own damages. I, like a lot of others, cancelled Sirius.

That's impossible to say without seeing their contract.  However, Art Bell has already stated on this thread that he didn't believe SXM is in breach.

Art_s Farts

Quote from: DesertFox on November 11, 2013, 04:08:35 PM




I don't believe this at all.  You THINK it was someone from Premier on a forum.  Come on, dude!  Little less paranoia and reality based thinking would be good.  Premier ain't going to give a crap about posters on a forum or anywhere else.

The post is real. However, the supposed Premier guy is probably just a dick who enjoys screwing with people

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ItsOver

Quote from: georgesucks on November 11, 2013, 04:09:44 PM
What, Art quit to become the Pope? How long will Art be the Pope before he quits being the Pope? :o

This could be a problem.  I've heard that streaming with Heaven has it's issues.


DesertFox

Quote from: lightningline on November 11, 2013, 04:15:45 PM
The moderator traced the IP addy to premier Ohio...so Yes..someone from Premier is concerned..I struck a cord...look at what I posted..




Perhaps but as others have said it is almost certainly(at best) some low level doofus just dicking with you...OR MORE LIKELY JUST A COMPLETE FAKER.  It's not a big conspiracy.

Ravenna

Quote from: georgesucks on November 11, 2013, 04:09:44 PM
What, Art quit to become the Pope? How long will Art be the Pope before he quits being the Pope? :o

Haha!  How Wild Rumors Get Started 101.

However, I don't think anyone will believe that Art Bell was made Pope (despite being married to a Catholic).


Catsmile

Quote from: juanelo on November 11, 2013, 03:18:30 PM
art just posted this in his Facebook page.


What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

Copy pasta, with weak sauce I might add.

whatatrip

Quote from: georgesucks on November 11, 2013, 04:09:44 PM
What, Art quit to become the Pope? How long will Art be the Pope before he quits being the Pope? :o

Once a Pope, always a Pope.

Ravenna

Quote from: lightningline on November 11, 2013, 04:15:45 PM
The moderator traced the IP addy to premier Ohio...so Yes..someone from Premier is concerned..I struck a cord...look at what I posted..

Wow, the plot thickens.  And don't forget:  Snoory says that there ARE NO COINCIDENCES.

We should all pause a moment and take this siriusly.

Quote from: kingdomofsigh on November 11, 2013, 04:04:23 PM
She's in my thoughts samysam1313!



I have an old friend who is a devout Christian.  I am not.  When we were young and my friend would say "I'm praying for you", it got on my nerves.  I must have mellowed in the intervening years, but now when she says "I'm praying for you", I say "all positive thoughts and prayers are welcomed...thank you".

So I send positive thoughts to your mom and to you, samysam.  You are so fortunate to have your mom still in YOUR life.  That's a blessing in anyone's theocracy!

Quote from: Ravenna on November 11, 2013, 03:33:06 PM
It is Clyde Lewis' Ground Zero (not Zero Ground).  Sorry, I'm anal about show titles.

And Clyde has now confirmed to me that he is not, and has not, quit radio.  Thank god, coz I need some voice in the darkness to listen to who seems to have his finger on the pulse.

I cannot believe that this rumor actually reached Clyde Lewis himself, see what you did Sirius XM rep?!?!

Uncle Duke

Quote from: whatatrip on November 11, 2013, 04:13:14 PM
Yes, I am serious. Sirius failed to deliver the show in a manner that perpetuated listeners. They breached the reasonable expectations of the show. When confronted with their obvious shortcomings and failure to deliver,  they bailed, they left AB hanging and the listeners hanging.

IMO and in my experience, Sirius could sue AB if he went ahead and did his show. In order to get monetary compensation or to cause AB to cease and desist, Sirius would have to show damages. They have no show that competes with DM, hence no damages and no cease and desist. They brought upon themselves their own damages. I, like a lot of others, cancelled Sirius.

All the more reason for Art to go on-line with a webcast tomorrow and bring this to a head.  If our learned friend here is correct, Sirius will realize this and just ignore the webcast.  Again, Art's back in business.

Ravenna

Quote from: HorrorReporter on November 11, 2013, 04:28:01 PM
I cannot believe that this rumor actually reached Clyde Lewis himself, see what you did Sirius XM rep?!?!

This correlates to my earlier point:  by Sirius reps saying to customers that Art might be returning, they keep a smidgeon of hope alive out there that Art just might, as well as spreading false information.  It is very, very irresponsible, at the very least.


whatatrip

Quote from: Bigfoot on November 11, 2013, 04:16:07 PM
That's impossible to say without seeing their contract.  However, Art Bell has already stated on this thread that he didn't believe SXM is in breach.

I agree the devil is in the details of the actual contract. I am speaking generally and addressing "reasonable expectations". If the contract says Sirius can't guarantee streaming live and Art signed that, then Sirius wins the legal battle but not the moral battle, IMO.
If I had signed up expecting to be able to stream in real time, I would say that SiriusXM was in breach of MY contract with them because of my expectations. I have streamed C2C for years without trouble so why would I not expect Sirius to be at least as good?

lightningline

Look guys..Im not a conspiracy nut...but if thet was truly someone from Premier. Maybe something I said was to close for comfort. I know Art made his own bed, no doubt. And may re-emerge. But if Premier was behind any shity play to bring Dark Matter to an end something should be done. Its called espionage...to purposefully rig someones livelihood to fail. But I guess that's cooperate America. Do with the info what you will..Im off to play some FPS and drink a ton of Beer.

McPhallus

Quote from: Ravenna on November 11, 2013, 03:22:02 PM
I have already trotted out my Commission Theory:  they may get a bonus if they keep someone signed up, and if that person desperately needs the extra money they may well lie to keep that person on (by that person having it suggested to them that Art Bell may well be back soon).

Sirius likely also has calculated how much it costs to acquire each subscriber (the credit card companies were paying an average of $150 at one point).  And they've calculated how much money Art has cost them over this little fiasco.  I'm sure they've calculated how much he's already cost them, how much he'd make them if he came back, and decided the numbers make it not worth it.

Ravenna

This is the message on Art's website right now, for any who missed it:

"This Week:  Hoping to get Art released from SiriusXM contract so he can come back on Internet LIVE Streaming. We already have the technology in place, just waiting for the lawyers."

Quote from: MV on November 11, 2013, 02:57:46 PM
aaaand... i'm caught up.

For now. heh heh heh And we're already 4, soon to be 5 pages in.

Ravenna

Quote from: lightningline on November 11, 2013, 04:31:34 PM
Look guys..Im not a conspiracy nut...but if thet was truly someone from Premier. Maybe something I said was to close for comfort. I know Art made his own bed, no doubt. And may re-emerge. But if Premier was behind any shity play to bring Dark Matter to an end something should be done. Its called espionage...to purposefully rig someones livelihood to fail. But I guess that's cooperate America. Do with the info what you will..Im off to play some FPS and drink a ton of Beer.

I actually sort of believe you, but then I am a glutton for a good conspiracy theory.  How dramatic it would be if that was for real!

Bigfoot

Quote from: lightningline on November 11, 2013, 04:31:34 PM
Look guys..Im not a conspiracy nut...but if thet was truly someone from Premier. Maybe something I said was to close for comfort. I know Art made his own bed, no doubt. And may re-emerge. But if Premier was behind any shity play to bring Dark Matter to an end something should be done. Its called espionage...to purposefully rig someones livelihood to fail. But I guess that's cooperate America. Do with the info what you will..Im off to play some FPS and drink a ton of Beer.

those damn cooperations 

Catsmile

Quote from: lightningline on November 11, 2013, 04:07:47 PM
very much for real...go to

http://darkmatterxm.com/threads/i-think-art-was-a-victim-of-a-conspiricy-sxm-premier-you-tube.255/#post-5403


someone at premier most certainly does

You need to get tell this to Alex Jones ASAP!
He seems to have his finger on the pulse... of what I have no idea.

Ravenna

Quote from: McPhallus on November 11, 2013, 04:31:44 PM
Sirius likely also has calculated how much it costs to acquire each subscriber (the credit card companies were paying an average of $150 at one point).  And they've calculated how much money Art has cost them over this little fiasco.  I'm sure they've calculated how much he's already cost them, how much he'd make them if he came back, and decided the numbers make it not worth it.

Agree with that.  My new best case scenario is that Art pays them back for the money they lost on him, they in turn let him out of his NC clause.  Win-win.  Sirius hasn't lost out, and the fans get to listen to Art again if he can figure out how to have enough bandwidth to keep his site from crashing when oodles of Art Bell Fans are live streaming his show.

ItsOver

Quote from: lightningline on November 11, 2013, 04:31:34 PM
...Do with the info what you will..Im off to play some FPS and drink a ton of Beer.

Yep.  Sounds credible to me.

Art_s Farts

Quote from: Bigfoot on November 11, 2013, 04:35:42 PM
those damn cooperations

Yeah Art and Sirius should just corporate and get the show back on the air

whatatrip

Quote from: Uncle Duke on November 11, 2013, 04:30:05 PM
All the more reason for Art to go on-line with a webcast tomorrow and bring this to a head.  If our learned friend here is correct, Sirius will realize this and just ignore the webcast.  Again, Art's back in business.

First of all, I spoke from my experience and IMO. Secondly, even if I am right, Sirius may not agree or would be willing to drag this through the courts for what purpose, I don't know other than the fact that they can.

Art has lawyers who will advise him. In the mean time, I will be watching for more information. Based upon what I have heard so far, and I haven't heard Sirius's side, it would be in the best interest of Sirius to just drop it.

I don't think art has ever mentioned challenging the non compete. Just the opposite e said he word honor it. Me thinks people are reading to much into the lawyer comment.

Catsmile

Quote from: lightningline on November 11, 2013, 04:31:34 PM
Look guys..Im not a conspiracy nut...but if thet was truly someone from Premier. Maybe something I said was to close for comfort. I know Art made his own bed, no doubt. And may re-emerge. But if Premier was behind any shity play to bring Dark Matter to an end something should be done. Its called espionage...to purposefully rig someones livelihood to fail. But I guess that's cooperate America. Do with the info what you will..Im off to play some FPS and drink a ton of Beer.

And off we go... off the rails that is. Sigh


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