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Art Bell Quits Dark Matter

Started by DesertFox, November 01, 2013, 08:13:24 AM

urbie88

Quote from: Art Bell on November 10, 2013, 09:19:02 PM
If any of you have any form of communication or channel open that I am not aware of,   please feel free
to ask Sirius/XM any of these questions that we all want the answers to.

                                                                                                                    Art

Anyone out there have Scott Greenstein on speed dial?  We should tweet Howard about this.

Jnthn932

Quote from: Uncle Duke on November 10, 2013, 09:16:33 PM
Do you respect George?
What does it matter? This has nothing to do with George.

Falkie2013

Quote from: Producer-Paul on November 10, 2013, 09:16:07 PM
Pessimistic?
I thought you lot were an optimistic bunch?

(Optimistically pessimistic perhaps?)

But still vaguely lovable.

Jnthn932

Quote from: jazmunda on November 10, 2013, 09:19:26 PM
Art could you please post your contract and highlight the non-complete clause? Also could you please send me $10,000.00 in unmarked bills. Also could you please send me an mp3 file that I can use as the voice mail on my phone? Something like, "Andy's not here right now but please leave a message after the beep". Oh and also can you recommend a good replacement for pizza punch? Also can you please make it clear to the rest of the posters here that my 5 calls to the show were not the reason that Dark Matter is no more? That is all.
Hahahaha

Catsmile

Quote from: onan on November 10, 2013, 07:19:19 PM
I appreciate Art keeping us in the loop. I am not sure why he does. It might be manipulative, perhaps a bit of guilt. But I don't know. I think Art is just like everyone else, sometimes he makes a good decision and other times not so much.

He certainly doesn't need to come here and tell us anything. I am quite certain he has financial security. I am sure he can find other ways to keep his "hobby" alive.

When he gets another show I will most likely listen.

Can we do a pay as you go after each show, instead of fronting payment a year in advance? ;)

Fronting payment in advance seems like paying a strange street corner drug dealer for your fix a year in advance, good luck collecting your debt from them. :D

kingdomofsigh

Quote from: Art Bell on November 10, 2013, 09:19:02 PM
If any of you have any form of communication or channel open that I am not aware of,   please feel free
to ask Sirius/XM any of these questions that we all want the answers to.

                                                                                                                    Art

Well, Sirius paid to contact ya through social media. Leaving a succinct post on your Twitter and Facebook account's regarding your anticipation to have the situation resolved couldn't hurt.

urbie88

Quote from: dortmunder on November 10, 2013, 09:20:35 PM
Jaz, if you think about it it's really only been two weekdays since Art made his latest offer on wednesday? Tomorrow is a holiday, so it's a long weekend. I lived in DC for six years so believe me, that city pretty much shuts down on national holidays. Not always true in other cities, but very little will happen there until at the earliest tuesday. So, I'm not ready to throw in the towel yet. I'm guessing those execs are busy drinking and sucking down oysters in Georgetown or Dupont Circle right about now. Or they're busy with their expensive prostitutes. Either way, they're probably not too concerned about getting back to Art Bell until next week.

Yeah but XM is here in DC. Sirius is run out of NYC. Ave of the Americas. They'll be open

lightningline

I wonder if they came and got all the equipment they gave Art ?  They did build him a studio right?

Quote from: Art Bell on November 10, 2013, 07:39:44 PM
Just this, it is a bridge I will cross when we get there, if they say no and do not release me from the NC
I will observe it. Should they release me from that, I will do a show and stream it for free for four, five weeks tops as I said I would.

                                                                                                                             Art

Fixed.

Falkie2013

Quote from: jazmunda on November 10, 2013, 09:19:26 PM
Art could you please post your contract and highlight the non-complete clause? Also could you please send me $10,000.00 in unmarked bills. Also could you please send me an mp3 file that I can use as the voice mail on my phone? Something like, "Andy's not here right now but please leave a message after the beep". Oh and also can you recommend a good replacement for pizza punch? Also can you please make it clear to the rest of the posters here that my 5 calls to the show were not the reason that Dark Matter is no more? That is all.

That's funny but I can just hear it now.

" This is Art Bell. The obsessed sob who drove me off the air with his constant calls from Australia isn't here right now. Leave a fucking message, you Aussie bastard. "

;) ;) ;) ;D

jazmunda

Quote from: Art Bell on November 10, 2013, 09:21:12 PM
Art...have you  tried to speak with the man who brought you into SXM in the first place ?


Please re-read page 242

                                                                                       Art

Art please don't make me click unnecessarily. :D

dortmunder

Quote from: Art Bell on November 10, 2013, 09:11:06 PM
I am not crazy about the way some things have been handled, they canned Paul without so much as a Human voice
doing the job and he had been trying to get a handle on the streaming mess every day. Now they take the tactic of simply
not responding in any way to ALL forms of communication the modern World has.

At least I spoke to them like people in a normal business relationship. I am telling you there is something else in the works.

                                                                                                                                      Art

I think what's at work here, Art, is that you're simply dealing with a bunch of assholes. That city is brimming with them....it's like the douchebag apocalypse over there.

Suzeca

Quote from: jazmunda on November 10, 2013, 09:19:26 PM
Art could you please post your contract and highlight the non-complete clause? Also could you please send me $10,000.00 in unmarked bills. Also could you please send me an mp3 file that I can use as the voice mail on my phone? Something like, "Andy's not here right now but please leave a message after the beep". Oh and also can you recommend a good replacement for pizza punch? Also can you please make it clear to the rest of the posters here that my 5 calls to the show were not the reason that Dark Matter is no more? That is all.

Lol that was funny

Quick Karl

Quote from: Art Bell on November 10, 2013, 07:29:47 PM
Thanks for asking, I am fine. Nothing much to say that I have not already said but good evening!

However I will repeat, people here have no idea the intense talks that were going on from about 3 days
after the show started about the stream drops, I do understand however how it seemed abrupt to the listener.

Also, the deal we tried to make on Wed, two days after the show stopped was a very good one and after saying
they took it very seriously they stopped communicating. I will say again, I think something else is going on.

For those above who listened and did not like the show anyway, it should not even be a issue worth talking about
unless you just like seeing a message from yourself.

                                                                                                                     Art

Art,

We all loved ya, but, you're just going to have to suck it up and admit you fucked up.

midnight

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on November 10, 2013, 09:10:05 PM
If I were being held under a non-compete but I still had an open deal to work out, the last thing I would say is "I'm gonna sue the ever living bejeezus out of that company to get out of the non-compete." That's how you make a deal fall through.



Exactly.

Meanandnasty

Quote from: malachi.martini on November 10, 2013, 09:23:50 PM
Fixed.

What happens after week five?  Darkness with the mike again?  Or, will you too charge only fifteen cents a day?  I can sacrifice a few sugar cubes for that.

SaucyRossy

Quote from: SaucyRossy on November 10, 2013, 08:44:34 PM
Not true, I and others including MV have said similar things about talking to noory.

First of Duke, I said "similar things about talking to noory"
I'd didn't say show respect to him or treat him like royalty.

It's about when the person is communicating on the board not to directly harass them. It's not about if he did or didn't earn or respect, it's about not making it so unbearably hostile for the poster that they are driven off the board.

But what the fuck ever, people will say what they want. I was just making a point.

Colorado ESQ

Quote from: Art Bell on November 10, 2013, 08:58:32 PM
The answer is because I signed it. I try to be a honest person.

                                                                     Art
Let's consider what a contract is about, it's an agreement the law will enforce. The contract defines what both parties will do to comply and when compliance fails it is called a breech. When one party fails to perform as promised and is in breech the contract will usually define what remedy exists for the injured party. But the clauses and the remedies have to be lawful and reasonable.

From what Art has described, that problems existed from the start, this contract seems compromised by performance and issues of breech by both parties. It is unreasonable to pick select clauses and say I won't comply with this but I will comply with that and still consider the contract as a whole. Under these circumstances it would be very unlikely that any court would enforce the noncompete agreement or interpret it to include a free internet stream from Art's web site.

It's not a matter of honesty or dishonesty relating to the noncompete, it's a matter of what is reasonable. My legal opinion is that enforcement under the described facts would not be reasonable. I think Art would be able to proceed with the show online.

maren

Quote from: Art Bell on November 10, 2013, 09:19:02 PM
If any of you have any form of communication or channel open that I am not aware of,   please feel free
to ask Sirius/XM any of these questions that we all want the answers to.

                                                                                                                    Art

But Art, why can't you just work with Sirius?  (Just kidding.)

Seriously, reading the most recent posts from Art, this is like any situation where we looking in from the outside have so many solutions, but unless we're in the thick of it, we just don't really get it.  If this was a constant battle from three days in, I can't imagine the level of frustration Art and his Parts were feeling.   I think it's finally sunk into my tiny brain.

Bottom line, at the  moment we don't have Art, and we're hopeful they might just let him wiggle out of the non-compete. 

Lots of us are here waiting for you, Art.  God speed!!

SaucyRossy

Quote from: Art Bell on November 10, 2013, 09:21:12 PM
Art...have you  tried to speak with the man who brought you into SXM in the first place ?


Please re-read page 242

                                                                                       Art

Where is the post where you talk about what shows you DVR?
I really am curious haha

tertiaryimam

If anyone wants to hear Hoagland's take on it but wants to skip the all the preamble horseshit, you can skip to 12:00 minutes on this:

http://theunexplained.tv/paranormal-podcasts/edition-131-richard-c-hoagland

Quote from: Quick Karl on November 10, 2013, 09:26:11 PM
Art,

We all loved ya, but, you're just going to have to suck it up and admit you fucked up.

This and only this.

dortmunder

Quote from: urbie88 on November 10, 2013, 09:23:31 PM
Yeah but XM is here in DC. Sirius is run out of NYC. Ave of the Americas. They'll be open

Oh well then never mind. I thought they were both there. Well, NYC always did do everything better than DC...even their assholes are bigger  ;D

kingdomofsigh

Quote from: maren on November 10, 2013, 09:29:01 PM
But Art, why can't you just work with Sirius?  (Just kidding.)

Seriously, reading the most recent posts from Art, this is like any situation where we looking in from the outside have so many solutions, but unless we're in the thick of it, we just don't really get it.  If this was a constant battle from three days in, I can't imagine the level of frustration Art and his Parts were feeling.   I think it's finally sunk into my tiny brain.

Bottom line, at the  moment we don't have Art, and we're hopeful they might just let him wiggle out of the non-compete. 

Lots of us are here waiting for you, Art.  God speed!!

Well put.  :)

Jnthn932

Quote from: tertiaryimam on November 10, 2013, 09:30:06 PM
If anyone wants to hear Hoagland's take on it but wants to skip the all the preamble horseshit, you can skip to 12:00 minutes on this:

http://theunexplained.tv/paranormal-podcasts/edition-131-richard-c-hoagland
You're full of useful info

IcicleTrepan

On a lighter note,

Art do you have a favourite JC call?

HaveAccess

Art...

We are not haters....

The only reason this forum exists is because your program made a special connection with all and each of us...

We have waited 10 years for you...And after only 6 weeks you quit! And then you say -- state--- that you will comply with the NC clause?
And you really think, that we wont say much about it?
When those among us with legal experience say say NC clauses-- can-- be challenged?

The real problem, primary problem,  this forum has with you, is that you really arent keeping people informed...until the last few hours.

And in that vacuum you do indeed appear as a serial quitter...

And your embrace of that NC clause....seems odd...

I agree with your central thesis: Sirius emphasises transmission to moving vehicles over  "table top"  reception. That in turn, handicaps listener involvement, which you find essential to a quality program. Further, their streaming player itself  is intrinsically buggy.

And to say -- theres lots going on which you dont know about-- Well , Art, you can tell us something, but you have chosen not to, havent you?
Why?  Dont you think after all this time, we deserve something of an explanation?

If you want the goodwill of this forum, just keep us informed. Its that simple.

But dont blame us.
Because there is only one person to blame....

And hopefully this will be positively resolved on Tuesday / Wednesday.

Its all fricken nuts.


Job

Quote from: jazmunda on November 10, 2013, 09:19:26 PM
Art could you please post your contract and highlight the non-complete clause? Also could you please send me $10,000.00 in unmarked bills. Also could you please send me an mp3 file that I can use as the voice mail on my phone? Something like, "Andy's not here right now but please leave a message after the beep". Oh and also can you recommend a good replacement for pizza punch? Also can you please make it clear to the rest of the posters here that my 5 calls to the show were not the reason that Dark Matter is no more? That is all.
Nice Try Jaz but we all know it was your fault the show was cancelled whether or not Art Bell himself exonerates you.

Art:
The heck with broadcasting - just start Q &A posting on your own subscription Internet forum! "East of the Rockies - light up those keyboards!"


Quote from: tertiaryimam on November 10, 2013, 09:30:06 PM
If anyone wants to hear Hoagland's take on it but wants to skip the all the preamble horseshit, you can skip to 12:00 minutes on this:

http://theunexplained.tv/paranormal-podcasts/edition-131-richard-c-hoagland

Listening, thank you pug messiah.

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