The GabCast (A podcast about BellGab)

[Jackstar]

I listened to quite a bit of the guys appearance on End of Days and still really don't understand
what the crux of the issue is.   On that show he told one of the callers to "Smoke a bowl" and
went off about his Alienware rig.   

transparent shill

[theONE]

OK, fine. I'll look it up, you lazy bastards.

what are you looking for ..??

[Roswells, Art]

what are you looking for ..??

People were asking what Hoagland's stalker's problem is. I remember reading a synopsis by a member here and that is what I was going to look up. From what I remember which isn't much is they used to work together but had a falling out and now Gary Leggiere, whom I think we are talking about thinks Hoagland is a disinformation agent working for NASA. I could be mistaken, this is just from memory, it might not even be the same guy

[Jackstar]

Gary Leggiere, whom I think we are talking about thinks Hoagland is a disinformation agent working for NASA.

There's gotta be a bit more to it than that. That's been an open secret for years. (Hi, Dick!)

[Roswells, Art]

There's gotta be a bit more to it than that. That's been an open secret for years. (Hi, Dick!)

I'm a little fuzzy on the details. hehe.

[GravitySucks]

There's gotta be a bit more to it than that. That's been an open secret for years. (Hi, Dick!)

Yeah. Now Hoagland owns DMDN and controls the content on all of the shows or some weird shit.

[GravitySucks]

OK, fine. I'll look it up, you lazy bastards.

Still waiting

[Roswells, Art]

Still waiting

Fine! You people!  I thought I'd take a break from my searching to check out the gabcast thread. Don't worry, I'm back to work.

[GravitySucks]

Fine! You people!  I thought I'd take a break from my searching to check out the gabcast thread. Don't worry, I'm back to work.

He used to post here. He got banned. I don't remember what his avatar was.

Edit:  he was Mad_Martian but MV deleted all of his posts.

[theONE]

He used to post here. He got banned. I don't remember what his avatar was.

No, I'm still here, [hanging ] ,  AND waiting for TURBO MODE !!

[whoozit]

He used to post here. He got banned. I don't remember what his avatar was.

Edit:  he was Mad_Martian but MV deleted all of his posts.

You could hear him yelling through his text.

[Imconfused]

Many thanks to you MV for another great Gabcast.  You do have a talent and I love all your shows.

I do have a question,  however.  Who was that annoying person you were interviewing?

He sounded like a shill,  lier and a quitter.  And the boooring shit he says....  Been there.  Done that.  People,  let's just move on.

I don't know,  but maybe you should do a show with Alex Jones.   

[The Snorchlax]

hI MV

I loved when u and Art were talking radio together


It made my heart beat fast

[onan]

hI MV

I loved when u and Art were talking radio together


It made my heart beat fast

That's not your heart.

[Kolchak]

Many thanks to you MV for another great Gabcast.  You do have a talent and I love all your shows.

I do have a question,  however.  Who was that annoying person you were interviewing?

He sounded like a shill,  lier and a quitter.  And the boooring shit he says....  Been there.  Done that.  People,  let's just move on.

I don't know,  but maybe you should do a show with Alex Jones.

[Jackstar]

Thank you for this. I'm just sayin'.

[LadyFish]

Fine! You people!  I thought I'd take a break from my searching to check out the gabcast thread. Don't worry, I'm back to work.

This might help narrow your search: Richard's stalker phoned in twice for RCH's first open lines. I believe  it was the morning of July 29th. It was in that thread that the stalker posted his walls of text.

[Imconfused]

wow,  you got it.  This is exactly how I feel.  Thank you for that.

Amaizing!

[Northern Nights]

People were asking what Hoagland's stalker's problem is. I remember reading a synopsis by a member here and that is what I was going to look up. From what I remember which isn't much is they used to work together but had a falling out and now Gary Leggiere, whom I think we are talking about thinks Hoagland is a disinformation agent working for NASA. I could be mistaken, this is just from memory, it might not even be the same guy

It's talked about in the Michael Vera thread in the Art Bell section. Here's a link someone posted there:

http://lnmradionetwork.com/richard-hoaglands-dark-mission-coverups-lies-and-calling-for-a-new-world-order/

[theONE]

wow,  you got it.  This is exactly how I feel.  Thank you for that.

Amaizing!

hahaha, lol  
I was not only feeling like that, ...I was also ...doing it  , hehe

[Auslandia]

It's talked about in the Michael Vera thread in the Art Bell section. Here's a link someone posted there:

http://lnmradionetwork.com/richard-hoaglands-dark-mission-coverups-lies-and-calling-for-a-new-world-order/

That qualifies as an epic rant. 

[Soylentblue]

People were asking what Hoagland's stalker's problem is. I remember reading a synopsis by a member here and that is what I was going to look up. From what I remember which isn't much is they used to work together but had a falling out and now Gary Leggiere, whom I think we are talking about thinks Hoagland is a disinformation agent working for NASA. I could be mistaken, this is just from memory, it might not even be the same guy

Hoagland might be nutty but Gary Leggiere is an absolute crazy.

I was searching for something to listen to last night on my internet radio and stopped at Late Night in the Midlands. At first I thought it was a repeat from weeks ago but then I heard Michael Vara talking about Art Bell on the Gabcast the night before.

The more I listen to these guys, paranormal radio the more convinced I am that they are ALL crazy.

Leggiere made it hard for Vara to get a word in edge wise.

Look for it, it's hilarious.

BTW MV is mentioned multiple times.

[Gruntled]

That guy [Hoag's stalker] that kept calling in was nuts.
While I was a little curious as to what could make someone that obsessed/bat shit
I knew he was not going to be able to tell us in "one paragraph", [made me laugh then and now MV 
Just what his problem was/is  is irrelevant compared to his loonyness now.
Btw, I just decided to donate to the diaper fund to show appreciation for this site
Gruntled

[JesusJuice]

Someone involved with UFO Diaries ended up committing suicide over what happened.

[Gruntled]

Someone involved with UFO Diaries ended up committing suicide over what happened.

That is what  Hoagie's stalker guy is railing on about?
I'm not familiar with that whole subject [UFO Diaries]
That is sad that someone did that but don't know how that justifies this guys
behavior.

[Auslandia]

That is what  Hoagie's stalker guy is railing on about?
I'm not familiar with that whole subject [UFO Diaries]
That is sad that someone did that but don't know how that justifies this guys
behavior.

Check this one out... I don't know if it's from the same guy but holy crap reads like a ransom note.

http://www.thefacesofmars.com/Conspiracy_Of_Richard_Hoagland.html

[SredniVashtar]

From reading the comments yesterday, it sounded like this show was going to be one huge disappointment. Although a lot of questions went unanswered, I think it was a bit more revealing than many people realised. First of all, it would have been uncomfortable and unfair to do any sort of interview that didn't give Art all the respect in the world for being such a great broadcaster. I have been listening to a few old Art shows recently, and he was peerless at what he did. They also, however, show that there crept in a certain lack of enthusiasam once he 'retired' back in the '90s, and I don't think he every really recaptured the glory days. Turning the GabCast into some sort of adversarial showdown would have done the man a disservice, because it's just a radio show, and it would have been out of place. But this was still an opportunity for Art to clear a few things up for his listeners.

When it came to the 'stalker' question I think you needed to read between the lines. Now that we have had the chance to hear him recount it, event by event, I don't think it's hard to see that he is using it as an excuse to stay off the air. The first 'event' could have been anything. If those shots were meant to be aimed at the house the 'stalker' must have the worst aim in the world. If they were meant to intimdate then they ought to have been seen by Art, which they weren't. It makes no sense, and the most obvious conclusion is that his neighbour got confused. It sounds like there was a lot of stuff going on that night, and she could have got caught up in the general hysteria along with Art. The second 'event' seems more credible until you remember that this was the man who also considered shooting a 'shadow person' in his home a few months before. Finally, the third 'event' has become a bit garbled with the telling. Art has forgotten that he told us that he heard a voice from the darkness telling him 'you were...', but that sounds like it has been dropped from the story now. Again, it could have been anything. It's a handy story because it's open-ended and doesn't have to rely on evidence. At the same time there is nothing whatsoever to back up his claim. If you think you have been shot at then you don't equivocate and say it might have been a firecracker. It was ironic that he later said that his reason for believing Bob Lazar was because his story never changed. You can believe Art's story, if you want; but I hope that the short bus has comfortable seating, because you are going to be riding it for a long time.

Art said he thinks he knows who it is, but didn't want to take out a restraining order. His reasoning was that it 'could make things worse'. How could it be worse when he has been driven from the airwaves because he fears for the safety of himself and his family? He later went on to say that the 'stalker' must be 'crazy'. So he refuses to do anything to prevent an insane person who is threatening the lives of his family, because it might make things worse? The reason that there has never been another incident is clearly because there doesn't need to be. There's no reason to believe that staying off the air is connected with his safety at all. All you need to do is look at Art's behaviour â€" not listen to his words â€" to see how seriously he is taking this 'stalker'. I don't think MV needed to bang the table over this, it was enough to leave the more intelligent listeners to figure it out for themselves.

I was disappointed in the whole Heather discussion (if you can call it that) but not surprised. I don't think you need to start by saying how wonderful you think she is, even if you believe it to be true (which I hope he doesn't). I wish someone would tell me why there is a code of silence around her (or 'Sister Heather of the Perpetual Meltdown', as she is known in the convent). The way some people talk about her I expect her to start turning water into wine pretty soon. I never found out how a total novice can be Art's 'first choice'. Art knows what it takes to succeed in broadcasting but he hands the show off to a total amateur. What. The. Fuck? I wish MV had asked why someone so inexperienced is also saddled with running the board and being her own producer. Couldn't Art dig into his jeans and get her some support if he's that keen for her to succeed? I thought Art's aside that 'she's done some good shows' was quite revealing. She's been doing this for two months, and the best he can say is that she's done 'some' good shows? How many, and which ones? The only way people talk about St Heather is polite euphemism. 'She's doing a great job under the circumstances' means that she's rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. 'Heather's getting better' sounds like the sort of thing you say about a child in a remedial class. I took MV's comment that she could get a job on lots of radio stations to mean that 'there are lots of shitty broadcasters out there, and she isn't the worst'.   

Art said he wanted fellow BellGabbers to give Heather advice. Perhaps Bateman? I might suggest something along the lines of 'you are in the wrong job'. Putting Heather behind a mic long enough does not automatically turn her into a tolerable broadcaster, any more than attaching wheels and pedals to my grandmother transforms her into a bicycle. The fact is, even when she did the GabCast she wasn't very memorable, but it wasn't worth pointing out. When you regularly do a show with someone like b_dubb (who seemed to make it a point of professional pride to fuck a goat every single show) then anyone is going to look good in comparison. You could stick Terri Schiavo in there under those circumstances and she'd look like Rush Limbaugh. Yet, Art never had any doubts that this woman â€" totally inexperienced â€" could take over a show in an area of broadcasting that is notoriously difficult to make interesting these days. Preferred above someone like Howard Hughes, who has been doing that sort of show off and on for nearly two decades. If you can't get Art to answer those questions then you failed to do a proper job. You never know, he may have made a good stab at telling us what we are missing. Instead, all we got was that 'despite what you may have heard, she's doing a great job'. In other words, 'the audience doesn't like her, but I do. So there!'

I think the overall tone of the show was that Art's over it but he doesn't want to say it in so many words. There's no point criticising the man, but I wish he'd be a little straighter with the listeners and stop treating us like babies. He was also being disingenous about the show - saying that she should make it her own - if Heather needs all the bumper music to be pre-approved. The only reason that most people are continuing their subscriptions is simple inertia at the moment. If Art categorically stated that he was done with the show then we would see a sharp drop. He knows this, but is being duplicitous. This isn't adult behaviour. Neither is it smart to claim that Heather is 'carrying the network' in a dig at Hoagland. If Art announced tomorrow that he was quitting for good we'd soon see how capable Heather is of carrying anything. Art sounded lucid but he has also shown some deplorable judgement over the last months. Having the lunatic Leo Ashcraft fouling the airwaves with his news segment shows us that Art's sense of what is good on the air is defective these days, to say the least. His fussiness over basically irrelevant details like sub-optimal audio quality is another example of the way that his priorities have become skewed over the years. He was always a bit of an audio nut but this has developed into a neurosis.

So, we learned that Art's reason for staying off the air is, at best, thin. But we never found out why a total amateur is good enough to follow a broadcast legend. If he'd been challenged on this then he might have been able to put up a good case. But he wasn't, so we are none the wiser. As it is, I don't think many people would have been encouraged to retain their subscriptions, let along bring in new ones. It's not mean-spirited to ask these question, and it doesn't have to come across in a bad way, so it was an opportunity lost.

[whoozit]

Check this one out... I don't know if it's from the same guy but holy crap reads like a ransom note.

http://www.thefacesofmars.com/Conspiracy_Of_Richard_Hoagland.html

I don't know.  Some of it seems to use similar logic I've seen here.  The little I've been able to make sense of sounds like it could be interesting but no one seems to be able to convey it in any way that makes sense.  Maybe someone could use a dart gun and tranquilizers to slow him down?

[Ciardelo]

.TL:DR

Can you please boil that thing down to an "elevator speech" oops, I mean "lift speech"?

Consider your audience please, we may not be on the specific medications you seem to employ.

k'thx'bai

[Auslandia]

I don't know.  Some of it seems to use similar logic I've seen here.  The little I've been able to make sense of sounds like it could be interesting but no one seems to be able to convey it in any way that makes sense.  Maybe someone could use a dart gun and tranquilizers to slow him down?

It's the same guy. The whois identifies the author is that Gary weirdo.   In all honesty he, he might actually have a valid point but who in their right mind has the time or patience to sift through a 1995 Geocities-style rant of a site with 10 different font sizes & colors, videos and weird stills of Hoagie & crew?  On the phone he sounded intolerable to listen to as well.  There's no way anyone is gonna give that guy a mic unless he learns to be succinct & organizes his thoughts a little better.