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Has coast to coast "Jumped the Shark?"

Started by Haole, April 08, 2013, 01:07:27 AM

Haole

I have listen since the days of "you are either a moron or a genius." Driving at night during those years I was a regular listener. Art would listen to a guest but would point the flaws in their statements. It was hard to tell just what Art views were. He ran a balanced show that encouraged critical thinking.

I tried to several times lately to listen and had to turn it off.

Mr. Wells is a far right ideologue trying to repackage the message.

George has also comes off as a right wing fundamentalist. 

The show is now more like a nighttime version of Rush Limbaugh or Fox news with a little of Glen Beck thrown in..

Morgus

In the mid 90's Art Bell had mostly open lines with some frequent callers like Doc Democrat and Charlie Liberal.
Art would take a very conservative view in constrast to them and often mentioned his fav president was Ronald Reagan...


They are probably just shifting to customers that buy whatever they advertise. If I look at myself analytically, I've never bought efoods, carnivora, Lear Capital, silver, or a C.Crane radio. So I am pretty much a "free rider" and why should they cater to anything I want to hear on the radio?

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Quote from: Mind Flayer Monk on April 08, 2013, 10:49:51 AM
They are probably just shifting to customers that buy whatever they advertise. If I look at myself analytically, I've never bought efoods, carnivora, Lear Capital, silver, or a C.Crane radio. So I am pretty much a "free rider" and why should they cater to anything I want to hear on the radio?

Because you at least hear the advertizing, and might buy something or recommend something to someone else someday.  That is better for them than you just turning it off.

RedMichael

Quote from: Mind Flayer Monk on April 08, 2013, 10:49:51 AM
They are probably just shifting to customers that buy whatever they advertise. If I look at myself analytically, I've never bought efoods, carnivora, Lear Capital, silver, or a C.Crane radio. So I am pretty much a "free rider" and why should they cater to anything I want to hear on the radio?


I have nothing to base this assumption on but just looking at your list makes me think they are going for old conservatives. The show kind of sounds like those day time commercials targeting senior citizens.


And I mean no disrespect to senior citizens. From the ones I talked to, they hate those commercials and products too. Ha.

Gay

Quote from: RedMichael on April 08, 2013, 11:10:11 AM

I have nothing to base this assumption on but just looking at your list makes me think they are going for old conservatives. The show kind of sounds like those day time commercials targeting senior citizens.


And I mean no disrespect to senior citizens. From the ones I talked to, they hate those commercials and products too. Ha.

Yeah, the worst are the prostate or testosterone supplement ads.  As soon as you see them on a TV show, it's a good sign that you're the only person under 60 watching it.

I don't know about the advertisers, but from the very few times that I have listened in the past few years, I can say that Snoory isn't anywhere near as political as Art was. We all knew what Art's political beliefs were, but I don't think I can even begin to remember the last time any of the current hosts really got political, or even made hint as to what their views are. Then again, I've listened less than 5 times in the past 3 years, so what do I know?

"We don't have much depth." -Art Bell

Juan

My impression was that the show turned really political when sNoory began having a regular list of guests who blamed Bush for 9/11. Art talked about political topics, but only occasionally.  For a while with sNoory, 9/ll Truthers were a regular thing. 

Sardondi

"Has coast to coast 'Jumped the Shark?' "

Yeah. About 2003. IIRC Happy Days  ran a couple of more seasons after Fonzie invented the concept.

I understood that when Art first began the show, it was a political program.  Only later did it evolve into CoasttoCoastam.  Anyone know the actual history?

Morgus

Quote from: Georgie For President 2216 on April 11, 2013, 07:52:28 PM
I understood that when Art first began the show, it was a political program.  Only later did it evolve into CoasttoCoastam.  Anyone know the actual history?
when i first started listening to c2cam in the early-mid 1990s, Art Bell had open lines most nights during the week and most callers talked about the events of the day with many political callers.
The frequent regular callers back then had names like Charlie Liberal, Doc Democrat, etc and Art would confront them from the conservative point of view, this was back when Clinton was President.
Art had his separate Sunday night show "Dreamland" that was for the paranormal subjects and he interviewed a guest with no callers on that show.
Later in the 90's Art gradually started to have some of his Dreamland guests and others appear on c2cam as well, as he started to get bored with the political stuff.

onan

I remember Art dealing with a caller that called liberals communists and socialists. Art slowed the caller down and asked the caller to define communism and socialism. The caller was unable to respond with anything but some stuttering nonsense. Art did/does have some conservative views; he probably isn't another Solomon. But his politics had so very little to do with his show.

Gd5150

Liberals are funny. Anyone who isn't a quack left winger is a right wing fundamentalist. Good stuff. This show does need a new host. Wells is refreshing. Noory is boring. Right wing? Lol!!!! Not.

McPhallus

I'm not sure Noory even has political opinions.  As a right-winger myself, I find Wells' obsession with disaster porn tiresome.

Quote from: Gd5150 on April 12, 2013, 04:47:28 AM
Liberals are funny. Anyone who isn't a quack left winger is a right wing fundamentalist. Good stuff. This show does need a new host. Wells is refreshing. Noory is boring. Right wing? Lol!!!! Not.

Quote from: Morgus on April 11, 2013, 11:59:52 PM
when i first started listening to c2cam in the early-mid 1990s, Art Bell had open lines most nights during the week and most callers talked about the events of the day with many political callers.
The frequent regular callers back then had names like Charlie Liberal, Doc Democrat, etc and Art would confront them from the conservative point of view, this was back when Clinton was President.
Art had his separate Sunday night show "Dreamland" that was for the paranormal subjects and he interviewed a guest with no callers on that show.
Later in the 90's Art gradually started to have some of his Dreamland guests and others appear on c2cam as well, as he started to get bored with the political stuff.

Thanks Morgus.  I guess as with most 2nd hand information it was a half truth.

Quote from: onan on April 12, 2013, 03:09:23 AM
I remember Art dealing with a caller that called liberals communists and socialists. Art slowed the caller down and asked the caller to define communism and socialism. The caller was unable to respond with anything but some stuttering nonsense. Art did/does have some conservative views; he probably isn't another Solomon. But his politics had so very little to do with his show.

Haha.  Good call by Art.

Quote from: Gd5150 on April 12, 2013, 04:47:28 AM
Liberals are funny. Anyone who isn't a quack left winger is a right wing fundamentalist. Good stuff. This show does need a new host. Wells is refreshing. Noory is boring. Right wing? Lol!!!! Not.

I agree. There's no in-between in this country anymore. There may be independent parties, but we're so stereotypically minded now-a-days that you're either a left wing extremist or a right wing nutjob! There's really nothing wrong with the two parties in my opinion. It's the fanatics that exist on both sides that are the problem.

Tinfoil Hat

Quote from: stlcoastfan1985 on April 15, 2013, 04:07:34 PM

I agree. There's no in-between in this country anymore. There may be independent parties, but we're so stereotypically minded now-a-days that you're either a left wing extremist or a right wing nutjob! There's really nothing wrong with the two parties in my opinion. It's the fanatics that exist on both sides that are the problem.

Ah a fellow moderate! Damn glad to meet you!

Quote from: Tinfoil Hat on April 15, 2013, 08:56:52 PM
Ah a fellow moderate! Damn glad to meet you!

Well I wouldn't say I'm exactly a moderate. To be honest I consider myself to be a Reagan Conservative as far as conservatives go, but I don't consider myself to be far right and I'm certainly not far left. I'd almost consider myself a libertarian, but I don't agree with them 100%. Either way I don't like to get political on forums but I still feel that you should make yourself clear as to what your affiliation is if you're going to comment on politics to prevent any speculative criticism from the ignorant masses.

Tinfoil Hat

In this day and age, a Reagan Conservative is almost a moderate.

People need to remember that when the political center crumbles, things can turn disastrous.

ksm32

Quote from: Georgie For President 2216 on April 11, 2013, 07:52:28 PM
I understood that when Art first began the show, it was a political program.  Only later did it evolve into CoasttoCoastam.  Anyone know the actual history?
Read The Art of Talk, it covers everything. some of it's pretty funny too, "the leaky roof"!

Quote from: ksm32 on April 30, 2013, 12:19:45 AM
Read The Art of Talk, it covers everything. some of it's pretty funny too, "the leaky roof"!

Cool, thanks I'll look that up.

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