Talkers Heavy Hundred 2012 - Noory's Rankings Start to Slip

[tmock00]

Yesterday, Talkers released their Talkers 250 Featuring The Heavy Hundred, and Noory came in at #26, declining in his standings; in 2011, he was ranked at #21. Instead of ranking higher this year, he has in fact, ranked lower.   

For those keeping score, Rush was again #1, Sean Hannity #2 and Michael Savage at #3.

Rounding out the Top 10:

Ed Schultz
Laura Ingraham
Dave Ramsey
Mark Levin
Thom Hartmann
Glenn Beck
Joe Madison

You can see the full list over at Talkers.com.

[Tara]

This is the only type of information that radio management is really interested in and the only hope of getting Noory off the air is for his ratings to continue to go down. 

[Lovely Bones]

So I visited the talkers.com site and found this:



Do we know a broadcaster who desperately needs "help"??

[Marc.Knight]

Yesterday, Talkers released their Talkers 250 Featuring The Heavy Hundred, and Noory came in at #26, declining in his standings; in 2011, he was ranked at #21. Instead of ranking higher this year, he has in fact, ranked lower.   

For those keeping score, Rush was again #1, Sean Hannity #2 and Michael Savage at #3.

Rounding out the Top 10:

Ed Schultz
Laura Ingraham
Dave Ramsey
Mark Levin
Thom Hartmann
Glenn Beck
Joe Madison

You can see the full list over at Talkers.com.

Kind of amazing that GN is so far below unknowns such as T. Hartmann and is still broadcasting.  It appears that the Suits have decided that the fate of C2C is irrevocably tied to GN.  The Captain will go down with the ship.

[MV/Liberace!]

The Captain will go down with the ship.

or, as i see it, the ship will go down with the captain.

[Eddie Coyle]

 
           The Talkers list is an annual joke. The magazine itself lacks the depth of "Highlights" and has a circulation that could barely fill a phone booth.

               No Imus, Stern or Opie and Anthony in the top 10. Please.

[Evil Twin Of Zen]

           The Talkers list is an annual joke. The magazine itself lacks the depth of "Highlights" and has a circulation that could barely fill a phone booth.

               No Imus, Stern or Opie and Anthony in the top 10. Please.

fuckin A!
all the ones listed eventually sound like this years #26 IMHO   

[PB the Deplorable]

Alex Jones clocks in at #85.  Helps explain his need to be Noory's friend.

Ian and Margery are listed alphabetically along with the rest of the 101-250.   Seems like they were somewhere around about #15-25 last time around?

[11angeleyes11]

The Talk is that he has been added to the Singers Heavy Hundred 2012 - Encore performance anyone?

[fabucat]

           The Talkers list is an annual joke. The magazine itself lacks the depth of "Highlights" and has a circulation that could barely fill a phone booth.

               No Imus, Stern or Opie and Anthony in the top 10. Please.

Actually that sounds about right.  Imus is a "has been" since the Nappy Hoes controversy.  Opie and Anthony REALLY are on the outs since that "sex in a pew" kerfuffle.  Stern would've been up there except that he's on Satellite radio.  He never should've left terrestrial radio. 

Limbaugh prevails, since he invented political talk radio.  The lib talkers as well as the conservatives owe him.  Liberal me felt kind of bad that he might be on the outs for awhile, just like I felt bad when I initially thought that the bitchy queen in Game of Thrones was going to be poisoned by her dwarf brother.  When one has such a magnificent adversary, you really don't want him to go away.

[Sardondi]

           The Talkers list is an annual joke. The magazine itself lacks the depth of "Highlights" and has a circulation that could barely fill a phone booth.

               No Imus, Stern or Opie and Anthony in the top 10. Please.

Stern might come in the top 15, & Imus is down around 20-25. But I think O&A are way down in the "also ran" category.

[Eddie Coyle]

Actually that sounds about right.  Imus is a "has been" since the Nappy Hoes controversy.  Opie and Anthony REALLY are on the outs since that "sex in a pew" kerfuffle.  Stern would've been up there except that he's on Satellite radio.  He never should've left terrestrial radio. 

Stern and O&A have seen their popularity fall off a cliff since going to satellite, undeniable fact and both shows are far below their apogee. But more people hear/know them than Hartmann,Ramsey,Levin and Madison combined.

        Stern's going to be on the execrable "America's Got Talent"(sic) and Leatherface Imus is on Fox Business each morning. That exposure alone should put them in the top 10. The Joe Madison selection reeks of tokenism. Hartmann, based on content, deserves consideration, but his listenership isn't vast.

        "Talkers" takes the Rolling Stone approach to lists. Glaring omits to get noticed.

[NefariousBanana]

Glad to see my favorite hosts made the list (Ian Freeman and Mark at #52).  They're ahead of Genesis' posterboy Alex Jones.

Phil Hendrie at #43?  Really?  REALLY?

[Ben Shockley]

....Stern would've been up there except that he's on Satellite radio.  He never should've left terrestrial radio. 

Agreed, and he never should have got divorced.  Yeah, I know that's not some off-the-cuff kind of thing, but dig:

I mused to a hard-core Stern fan back around 1999 how Stern had better never get divorced, because --I believed-- that he owed some of his popularity to his (image of) being faithfully married.
Guys were/are his core audience; I suspect a large portion of them are working-class guys.   Those guys don't mind him having all the "hot chicks" (as Stern would describe them) coming in his studio and groveling for him IF those guys think Stern ain't really getting any action from those chicks, because he's dutifully loyal (a/k/a tied down) to his wife.   It makes him more "relatable" and thus sympathetic to those working-class guys (whether loyally married or just too broke to be getting any action) who, in their hearts, know Stern wouldn't really piss on them if they were on fire.
BUT-- as soon as they know he really is using his money and position to ~uh~ score in ways that those listener guys can't, then Stern becomes just another "rich media asshole," and there goes his tiny sympathy factor, and there goes a big chunk of his audience.
Does that sound logical?

[tmock00]

           The Talkers list is an annual joke. The magazine itself lacks the depth of "Highlights" and has a circulation that could barely fill a phone booth.

               No Imus, Stern or Opie and Anthony in the top 10. Please.

If it's any consolation, they did rate Howard Stern at #2 on the list of Most Important Radio Talk Show Hosts of All Time.  Don Imus came it at #5, Opie & Anthony at #49.  Art Bell came in at #17, while George Noory landed at #37, and Alex Jones at #95.

That list is here: Talkers Heaviest Hundred of All Time.

I don't know anything at all about the publication itself.  I just thought the rankings were interesting.

[jazmunda]

Just out of interest where did Art used to rank in his hayday on this list or other "official" or semi "official" lists.

[ericdxx]

I believe Noory should be top 10 or top 15. Whatever you think about him, he is the host of the no.1 overnight show. He was given a segment on Nightline. Doesn't his books chart on the New york times bestseller list as well? Many of those other hosts that are ahead of him....I never heard of them or saw them on tv.

[WOTR]

I believe Noory should be top 10 or top 15. Whatever you think about him, he is the host of the no.1 overnight show. He was given a segment on Nightline. Doesn't his books chart on the New york times bestseller list as well? Many of those other hosts that are ahead of him....I never heard of them or saw them on tv.

The ranking is subjective and I suppose that there are those who feel that he should be in the top 10.  Looking at the list though, it makes it clear that they are not using hard numbers- only trying to get a feel for where the person should be.  On their biography of Noory they really drove home the point that he took over the show rather than creating a name for himself.  I would suggest that the bottom 100 would be a better place for him.  All the other names on the list have stiff competition for listeners.  Noory started out with a program with no national competition and had a virtual monopoly and audience handed to him...

Anyhow, regarding his latest book; it is seller #73 496 on the Amazon best sellers list.  Looking up Huckleberry Finn I notice that he is handily beat out by a century old book (#11 187.)  Considering that he has a nationally syndicated popular radio show where he promotes his book, I would suggest that #73000 is a dismal ranking.  Only 15 people have seen fit to review his work.

[stevesh]

Only 15 people have seen fit to review his work.

Which is a godsend to Noory, since, other than the obvious astroturf, all the reviews reveal the book to be as much a piece of shit as its 'author'.

[PB the Deplorable]

When a relevant topic comes up, I ask friends and co-workers if they've ever heard of George Noory.  To date no one I've asked has.  Not one.  When I say Coast to Coast, they've either not heard of that either or mention Art Bell.  Just about everyone knows who Rush Limbaugh, Don Imus, Howard Stern, Dr Laura, Sean Hannity, etc are.  They may not like them, they may never have heard the shows, but they know the names. 

The name Noory always draws a blank.  How I envy them.  I doubt very much he has anything near the audience he claims.  Maybe this post should be on thread documenting Noory's dishonesty.

[preston]

I believe Noory should be top 10 or top 15. Whatever you think about him, he is the host of the no.1 overnight show. He was given a segment on Nightline. Doesn't his books chart on the New york times bestseller list as well? Many of those other hosts that are ahead of him....I never heard of them or saw them on tv.

Most sites show George rated below #25 and that based on listeners.Keep in mind that there
are not a whole lot of late night programs at that time slot.Also his books never even came close
to being in the top of any book review.

[fabucat]

        Stern and O&A have seen their popularity fall off a cliff since going to satellite, undeniable fact and both shows are far below their apogee. But more people hear/know them than Hartmann,Ramsey,Levin and Madison combined.

        Stern's going to be on the execrable "America's Got Talent"(sic) and Leatherface Imus is on Fox Business each morning. That exposure alone should put them in the top 10. The Joe Madison selection reeks of tokenism. Hartmann, based on content, deserves consideration, but his listenership isn't vast.

        "Talkers" takes the Rolling Stone approach to lists. Glaring omits to get noticed.

Funny, but Talkers Magazine never felt the need to be "inclusive" before.  Joe Madison has been around for over 20 years on the radio.  His profile has increased because he's now on TV a lot as a pundit.  It appears that some people here have issues with non-whites being successful.  Being the most famous African American talk show host, Madison has a guaranteed bedrock audience amongst blacks. 

I am, however, surprised that so many liberals made the top ten.  Perhaps the fact that there are so many righty talkers dilutes the ratings of the top conservative talkers.  There are some conservative talkers who shouldn't be on the radio at all, not because of their ideas, but because they are so utterly untalented.

Liberals like me have spent much time complaining about Rush and Beck, which reflects the depth of their talent and effectiveness.  They've got great voices and great presences.  A guy like Mark Levin, on the other hand, has a voice like fingernails on a blackboard.  He starts to scream nasally at inappropriate times and he's utterly lacking in humor, unlike Rush.  Even if I agreed with the guy totally, I couldn't listen to him.  And I'm sure that there are guys out there who are even less talented.

[Eddie Coyle]

Funny, but Talkers Magazine never felt the need to be "inclusive" before.  Joe Madison has been around for over 20 years on the radio.  His profile has increased because he's now on TV a lot as a pundit.  It appears that some people here have issues with non-whites being successful.  Being the most famous African American talk show host, Madison has a guaranteed bedrock audience amongst blacks. 

I think Tom Joyner would disagree with Madison being called "the most famous African American talk show host". And Al Sharpton could make the argument as well. And Wendy Williams. But if you think Joe Madison should be in the top 10 before Stern or Imus, you're batshit crazy.

           Nice playing of the race card. I think Howard Stern or Don Imus is more influential than Joe Madison, therefore I'm a white supremacist.

[MV/Liberace!]

I believe Noory should be top 10 or top 15. Whatever you think about him, he is the host of the no.1 overnight show. He was given a segment on Nightline. Doesn't his books chart on the New york times bestseller list as well? Many of those other hosts that are ahead of him....I never heard of them or saw them on tv.

i believe in terms of noory's place in the radio broadcast clock, he belongs in the top ten in terms of relevance i guess.  in terms of his ability... that's another story.  i think he's simply a REALLY lucky guy.

[MV/Liberace!]

...they may never have heard the shows, but they know the names. 

The name Noory always draws a blank.  How I envy them. 

lol, nice.

[MV/Liberace!]

There are some conservative talkers who shouldn't be on the radio at all, not because of their ideas, but because they are so utterly untalented.

amen to that, sister.


edit: and i agree with you about levin.  even though i agree with him 75% of the time politically, i can't even consider listening to him.  his voice, his feigned outrage accompanied by hollow shouting... i find his personality revolting and there is absolutely no way i would/could interact with someone like him in my personal or business life.

[Tara]

I can't stand financial advice talk host Clark Howard.  Don't know if he gives good advice, but he has the worst voice on national radio; it's high, squeaky, and sort of quivers.  I would think that a grown man would feel ashamed to have such a non-masculine voice.  Why doesn't he take voice lessons?   

[Usagi]

I can't stand financial advice talk host Clark Howard.  Don't know if he gives good advice, but he has the worst voice on national radio; it's high, squeaky, and sort of quivers.  I would think that a grown man would feel ashamed to have such a non-masculine voice.  Why doesn't he take voice lessons?   

Wow, I didn't realize he had a national program.  I grew up in Atlanta, so I always just associated his quivering screech-voice with imploring viewers to watch tonight's story about the latest roofing scam "tonight at 5!" on the local news.

[McPhallus]

I've heard some of the ads he's done, and he doesn't sound THAT horrible to me.

Apart from the aforementioned Levin, check out Jeff Kuehner,  who fills in for some of the conservative.  Apart from the fact that he's an ass-kisser, his accent is atrocious.

I can't stand financial advice talk host Clark Howard.  Don't know if he gives good advice, but he has the worst voice on national radio; it's high, squeaky, and sort of quivers.  I would think that a grown man would feel ashamed to have such a non-masculine voice.  Why doesn't he take voice lessons?   

[Digitech]

So, yesterday I was listening to the Dave Ramsey show. He mentioned at the beginning of the segment that his program is now carried by over 500 affiliates, which firmly cements its position as the 3rd most carried program in the US. He said that Rush Limbaugh is #1, with 600+ affiliates. Hannity is second with about 530, then Dave.

He went on to say that there is a big gap after that, and no other programs currently have more than 400 affiliates. 4th place is in the 300s somewhere.

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't C2C have 500+ when Art Bell was the host? And even when George was the host? If Coast has been dropped by over 100 stations since Art retired, I would say that's a significant number.