Art Bell

[SredniVashtar]

Beheading... I'm old school.

I see. You are obviously unaware of the recent changes incorporated after the Second Catican Council, you schismatic swine!

You are hereby excommnuicated and made to serve a prison term (minimum ten years) in Falkie's apartment.

[onan]

I see. You are obviously unaware of the recent changes incorporated after the Second Catican Council, you schismatic swine!

You are hereby excommnuicated and made to serve a prison term (minimum ten years) in Falkie's apartment.

something tells me there will be no virgins...

[Skunk Ape]

I didn't listen last night and likely won't ever listen to that show. I don't really care what it had to say. Not interested at all. Not saying it's the same but it would be like if it was a show with a child molester that was espousing the benefits of molesting children... not interested -- wouldn't listen. Sell it somewhere else.

Diff'rent strokes

[SredniVashtar]

something tells me there will be no virgins...

Sweet Kathy will minister to your every desire.

And they say there's no such thing as hell, the fools!

[SredniVashtar]

I didn't listen last night and likely won't ever listen to that show. I don't really care what it had to say. Not interested at all. Not saying it's the same but it would be like if it was a show with a child molester that was espousing the benefits of molesting children... not interested -- wouldn't listen. Sell it somewhere else.

If Art doesn't interview Herb Sewell then that is an opportunity missed.

[Mebee]

Regional accents are one of the beauties of a language.  There's a difference between mispronunciations out of ignorance and and deviations due to region.  Cultural homogeneity is a tragedy.

Then I [like]suppose I/we should [like]be content to [like]have a flood of [like]pop culture [like]lead us all to speak as if we are all vapid 15-year-old [like]Valley Girls.

[Yorkshire pud]

Then I [like]suppose I/we should [like]be content to [like]have a flood of [like]pop culture [like]lead us all to speak as if we are all vapid 15-year-old [like]Valley Girls.

? ? ? ? ? (Question marks to be added for each sentence, even if it isn't a question)

[heater]

congrats lonevoice!


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[CornyCrow]

You may be on to something there, Art. I think she had her 'front of house' face on all during the interview. I noticed that every time you tried to press her on the notion of 'what is power' or asked her to explain such things, she went into her canned explanations. And I can tell you for certain....what she put out there in the interview led me to think she knew NOTHING about power or how it works. And I think that is the biggest lie she told all night.

I mean, you don't seriously think these people just put on robes, gather up all their inner hatred and anger in their little 'chamber' and release it to the universe and then be done with it, do you?

In the ancient practices of secret mysticism it is very possible to send that energy in a very real way to specific locations or to specific people. You can't tell me that Blanche and her little troop don't know about such practices. Course they do.

But...they won't ever tell you that.

Another thing that I found troubling was that she kept saying children were a pure channel between the worlds, or some such thing.  She seemed to deny child ritual abuse but she did not deny using children in their rituals.  Viewing them as a clear entryway into the other realms would make them very attractive for that purpose, I would think. 

Toward the end some of those canned answers seemed to be wearing thin.  She seemed to be tiring, which would be expected except that her face was dropping a bit.  I think, upon thinking about it, she realizes that mentioning what happened to the neighbors who reported the illegal lion was a big mistake.

They broke the law, and took action upon those who called them on it.  Arbitrary justice.  They must be working for a world in which might makes right.  Is that really 'elevating' humanity, which she claims they would like to do? 

I am appreciative of Art's social conscience, that he warned us the next day, of this group.  As screwed up as religions often are, this thing could be far worse. 

[CornyCrow]

Sorry Mr. Onan....tis true. Do a little research before you fling mud. Every religion has a lesser known spiritual practice, usually hidden, that relies heavily on what you would call 'magic'. Not silly, very real and very historic and yes...very possible for the mystically and spiritually adept.

Hear, hear!

[CornyCrow]

No it isn't true. You are not capable of sending white light, to any location. I didn't fling anymore mud than the poster suggesting a skeptical view is boring.

Every religion is wrong or at least making statements that are unverifiable. If one chooses to be kind, that is wonderful. To believe that gives extraordinary powers is silly.

I have done a great deal of research regarding metaphysical concepts for more than four decades, it all leads to wishful thinking. Statistics is boring but explains data much more thoroughly than anecdotal evidence. Are there fascinating stories? yes, but with little to no real evidence. And as much as I would wish to not offend many people on this forum, many of the positions they hold are little more than whimsy, your belief in astrology being the biggest joke among them.

Onan, you are using logic, but there are a few - perhaps more than a few - here who have witnessed such things first hand. This Satanist claimed LeVey had a theory that not all rituals 'work' for all people because of differences in vibrational levels.  If I had not had certain experiences in life I would believe as you.  How can you believe otherwise? 

[PB the Deplorable]

I believe it's too late for our friend onan, he's been turned into a toad

[SredniVashtar]

Hear, hear!

Let's see one of these 'adepts' prove it by showing us their skills in a situation where they can't cheat, and in front of intelligent sceptics, then nobody would have an argument.

But they can't.

[onan]

I believe it's too late for our friend onan, he's been turned into a toad

I'm getting better.

[SredniVashtar]

Onan, you are using logic, but there are a few - perhaps more than a few - here who have witnessed such things first hand. This Satanist claimed LeVey had a theory that not all rituals 'work' for all people because of differences in vibrational levels.  If I had not had certain experiences in life I would believe as you.  How can you believe otherwise?

Lots of people visit Jerusalem and find themselves convinced that they are Jesus Christ. Do we believe that too?

One of the first things cub reporters learn is that witness testimony is incredibly bad at getting anywhere near the truth. Someone just claiming that they had an experience isn't going to cut it.

Give people more than a bit of smoke and snake oil and perhaps they might start to put some credence in this bilge. Until then it gets the contempt it deserves.

Vibrational levels!

FFS!

[CornyCrow]

I think I heard RoseGirl say something once about science 'knowing nothing', and there are deeper truths that can't be appreciated by rational thinking. The trouble is, when you do that you throw yourself open to every charlatan and crackpot out there. Rationality is all we have as a species and it drives me bloody nuts when I hear people talking about 'magic' as though it is something real, when all the 'evidence' is just the unreliable testimony of a bunch of credulous peasants several centuries or millennia ago.

All the beliefs in magic are rooted in our need to control the natural environment in an era of general ignorance, and religion grows out of that. It wouldn't take much to get the reputation for being a shaman in a primitive culture if you were clever and/or unscrupulous enough - and then everyone starts to believe in magic and you are off with your own little cult. Just reading a few pages of The Golden Bough should convince most people of that pretty simple truth.

I agree with Ms.Satanist that consciousness is the next great frontier for scientific exploration.  I think, as we progress, a lot of these improbable but real supposed inconsistencies between what is the current state of our knowledge and the strange but real human experiences will be resolved. 

[CornyCrow]

Lots of people visit Jerusalem and find themselves convinced that they are Jesus Christ. Do we believe that too?

One of the first things cub reporters learn is that witness testimony is incredibly bad at getting anywhere near the truth. Someone just claiming that they had an experience isn't going to cut it.

Give people more than a bit of smoke and snake oil and perhaps they might start to put some credence in this bilge. Until then it gets the contempt it deserves.

Vibrational levels!

FFS!

Sredni, you would be a huge hypocrate if you believed in the mystical because I or anyone else told you about it.  Somehow I think we each get the experiences that we need in our lives.  I feel no pull to convert people of my beliefs.  How could I, because they are based on my own personalized experience?  I still consider myself skeptical regarding religion in general and the existence of god.  No person who I have thought reliable has ever said they 'saw' god, but that there is something going on in other levels of being I have no doubt.  That we continue on after our bodies no longer suffice, I have no doubt.  That our lives have meaning and that 'goodness' is one of our goals, I have no doubt. 

[munbeam666]

Beheading... I'm old school.

How about burning at the stake?

[aldousburbank]

I believe it's too late for our friend onan, he's been turned into a toad

I started out as a toad.

[chefist]

I started out as a toad.

Did you lick yourself?

[ziznak]

Did you lick yourself?

cmon now we all know the answer to that

[aldousburbank]

Did you lick yourself?

I am an adult sir! I pay others to do that for me.

[GravitySucks]

Sorry Mr. Onan....tis true. Do a little research before you fling mud. Every religion has a lesser known spiritual practice, usually hidden, that relies heavily on what you would call 'magic'. Not silly, very real and very historic and yes...very possible for the mystically and spiritually adept.

Well we Frisbeeterians of the world must be the exception. We have no lesser known spiritual practices or 'magic'. If we did, we would know how to get our souls off the garage roof after we die.

[RoseGirl]

No it isn't true. You are not capable of sending white light, to any location. I didn't fling anymore mud than the poster suggesting a skeptical view is boring.

Every religion is wrong or at least making statements that are unverifiable. If one chooses to be kind, that is wonderful. To believe that gives extraordinary powers is silly.

I have done a great deal of research regarding metaphysical concepts for more than four decades, it all leads to wishful thinking. Statistics is boring but explains data much more thoroughly than anecdotal evidence. Are there fascinating stories? yes, but with little to no real evidence. And as much as I would wish to not offend many people on this forum, many of the positions they hold are little more than whimsy, your belief in astrology being the biggest joke among them.

You have done a great deal of research? Doing what? Looking for scientific proof of things metaphysical? What are you, an idiot? One day, when you stop worshiping science and become just a little bit braver, perhaps you will begin to understand life a bit better.

I have personally seen these practices work...and know people who perform them. And it almost never about white light, in fact, quite the opposite. The Jesuits use them extensively, the Tibetans have perfected them, the Jewish beliefs make a whole sect out of them....all people who are serious about learning will one day end up studying mysticism. Mysticism is the study of power. And it doesn't limit itself to beakers and lab rats and slide rulers....because....well, because it is not stupid and it is not arrogant. And, above all, it is not afraid of how life really works.

So...go call someone else a joke. I have better things to do than calm your fears.

[Zoxo]

Art, I "just" subscribed my Time Traveler subscription to the RSS podcast on my iphone. Wow, what an easy way to listen to the show! I was unable to listen live last night, but caught the show this morning.

Now that you have had a day to digest this last show, do you have any further thoughts in regards to whether or not you actually met this guy years ago like he said in hour three? This guy tells an amazing story, and is very convincing. If he isn't telling the truth, he is an extremely good liar!  I have to say, he somewhat convinced me that he was telling the truth.

But what are your thoughts now?

Zoxo

[starrmtn001]

I started out as a toad.

Ahhh.  Hence the toad farming.  Makes sense.

[Freyja]

This may already have been asked, however this thread is so long that I may have missed it.

Are Art & Keith doing any promotion via YouTube or any other media channels to promote the show other than at artbell.com?

Currently there is an audio clip on the site reinforcing the promotion of unscreened calls.

Last night's show with Basiago was a MITD classic and would be a great program to get out there either either in it's entirety or in some highlight format for promotional purposes.

I realize that Art and Keith want listeners to access the program either live or via paid archives, however IMHO promoting a couple of shows or highlights from MITD programs may be another way to take the initial "blitz" further and allow those who don't know about the show and/or are unable to listen live to hear what they are missing.

John B Wells offers a similar deal: live show and paid archives, however he does put out some of the programs on YouTube so that new listeners have an opportunity to hear some of the programs to get a taste of what the offering is if one subscribes. Just a thought.....

[ziznak]

I was wondering the other day how many time travellers Art has onboard already?  Is there anyway to tell like some sort of user count on the archives site?

[FightTheFuture]

I caught the broadcast last night, Art.

Splendid job, sir. In fact, I believe it is deserving of a...

BRAVO ZULU!


That is all.

[slippingaway]

This past week was epic, I'm going back now to listen to the rest of the Satanist show.  I could tell that the woman was seduced into Satanism, that much was obvious.  Art expected something scary, hairy, and hard to carry... but the Devil doesn't work like that, does she?  Seduction is the Devil's game, and she's good at it.