George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium

[Mind Flayer Monk]

Haven't heard it. I do hear him flub words and misspeak, but that's about it. I do think he misses obvious follow up questions because he's distracted, that would be a legit one.

Im trying to remember when he started doing those promos. But he read it as (silent 'd') Beyon Bee leef.
I think Maxwell might have actually posted an mp3 from it. But its been a while. With that stuff, I don't laugh when I hear it, but I think he needs to do a practice run with people before he hits the mic.

[SciFiAuthor]

Im trying to remember when he started doing those promos. But he read it as (silent 'd') Beyon Bee leef.
I think Maxwell might have actually posted an mp3 from it. But its been a while. With that stuff, I don't laugh when I hear it, but I think he needs to do a practice run with people before he hits the mic.

Even still, once doesn't really reflect the entirety. Again, I don't want to say that George isn't worthy of criticism, another one I can think of is his almost total lack of setting a mood for the show. Art is a master at that, talking over the right music and so on. Wells can do it with how he says it and his style. Knapp can set it with his urgency. Noory, well, he just never seems to be able to set that mood.

[PB the Deplorable]

... What's really telling about this thread is the variance in just why people think Noory sucks. I noticed that early on, many people have different ideas on what specifically sucks. That's a red flag right there...

People aren't required to post the other 20 things George does that make him a lousy show host each time they post something. 

When someone criticizes something George has done, or to just have a little fun with George, it doesn't mean they think his suckage is limited to that.  When there are a variety of complaints about George, it doesn't mean people are just making things up.

Haven't heard it. I do hear him flub words and misspeak, but that's about it. I do think he misses obvious follow up questions because he's distracted, that would be a legit one.

You've listed 4 right there - flubs words, misspeaks, misses obvious follow up questions, sounds distracted.  You yourself left other things out of this post that you've criticized him for in the past - like the Oates interview, or that he doesn't set a proper mood. 

[SciFiAuthor]

People aren't required to post the other 20 things George does that make him a lousy show host each time they post something. 

When someone something George has done, or to just have a little fun with George, it doesn't mean they think his suckage is limited to that.  When there are a variety of complaints about George, it doesn't mean people are making things up.




You've listed 4 right there - flubs words, misspeaks, misses obvious follow up questions, sounds distracted.  That you left out other things in this post - like the Oates interview - doesn't mean anything.

Oh come on Paper. You know most of it was BS, a kernel of truth wrapped in a turd of narrative that went beyond and into orbit because it was fun. And I don't have a problem with that, some of it was funny as hell. But some of it wasn't, some of it was just outright malicious and baseless. And now Art's taking it up the ass in the quit thread due to the same behaviour. Where are you man, I'm in there fighting my ass off for my favorite host against the detractors.

And look, most of the people that I fought round and round with aren't there either. I think I predicted this would happen, didn't I? Why? Because the herd calls for something different now. It's Art's turn, and if the skids wouldn't have been put on it tonight it would have spread, person to person, psychological wall after wall until Art was in the same boat as George.

I didn't leave out the Oates affair, read upwards a bit further.

[onan]

20 seconds of Diane Rehm blows that out of the water. What's really telling about this thread is the variance in just why people think Noory sucks. I noticed that early on, many people have different ideas on what specifically sucks. That's a red flag right there. It's starting to happen the same way in the quit thread against Art. Same old story, same old herd instinct, same old mob mentality.

As twilight zone freaky as the last three months has been, we could well end up seeing Art less popular and more maligned than Noory on here. It's certainly been that way this past week. Imagine, after a few months of spread and drift, what those people will say about Art.

Simple as to why noory sucks, he cant speak clearly. He can't complete more than a couple sentences without a mispronunciation. He can't make relevant conversation. He responds with questions that even a ten year old would have logic problems with. Add to that a feeling of a disingenuous attitude and you have the basic problems with noory.

[Mind Flayer Monk]

Simple as to why noory sucks, he cant speak clearly. He can't complete more than a couple sentences without a mispronunciation. He can't make relevant conversation.

Just throwing out ideas, but do you think he has an anxiety disorder?

[onan]

Just throwing out ideas, but do you think he has an anxiety disorder?

He may have. Without some time to actually assess it is almost impossible to tell.

[NoMoreNoory]

20 seconds of Diane Rehm blows that out of the water. What's really telling about this thread is the variance in just why people think Noory sucks. I noticed that early on, many people have different ideas on what specifically sucks. That's a red flag right there. It's starting to happen the same way in the quit thread against Art. Same old story, same old herd instinct, same old mob mentality.

As twilight zone freaky as the last three months has been, we could well end up seeing Art less popular and more maligned than Noory on here. It's certainly been that way this past week. Imagine, after a few months of spread and drift, what those people will say about Art.

You miss the point entirely. Again. Art is taking a lot of criticism for quitting and disagreement with his reasons. I've added my voice to that. But nobody is attacking Art's competence as a broadcaster. He is one of the great broadcast naturals.
Noory can't write copy, read copy, speak coherently, conduct an interview or interact with callers. He never reads or even familiarises himself with his guests' books. He is not 'distracted' during interviews, he is just lazy. The same cue card questions, the non sequiturs, the same old anecdotes and platitudes. The lies, the self-promotion, the grandiosity.
The other night, with the Tarot woman, he asked her a question, obviously aware that a break was coming up fast. She begins to answer. She manages about half a sentence before Noory interrupts and asks her to 'hold that thought' and continue with it after the break. After the break, of course, he asks a completely different question and his previous enquiry goes unanswered. He does it all the time. It's infuriating. We don't make this up, you know. He is simply not fit for purpose. Why you continue to try to defend the indefensible is honestly beyond me.

[HMC]

Just throwing out ideas, but do you think he has an anxiety disorder?

I always figured he had dyslexia or something. I have pretty bad dyslexia and mispronounce things sometimes myself, even though I know how to say the word perfectly. I never really faulted Noory for that. I fault him for not actively listening to his guest.

[ItsOver]

... Why you continue to try to defend the indefensible is honestly beyond me.

Unrequited dolphin love, although I'm not so sure about the unrequited part. 


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Oh well, I'll give you credit for persistence, SciFi, and you're reasonably diplomatic about the whole thing with Noory.  At least for an aquatic mammal.

[ItsOver]

I always figured he had dyslexia or something. I have pretty bad dyslexia and mispronounce things sometimes myself, even though I know how to say the word perfectly. I never really faulted Noory for that. I fault him for not actively listening to his guest.

I'd say "for not actively INTERACTING with his guest."  There's just a lack of an interesting conversation between two engaged individuals most of the time.  The reliance by Noory on canned questions, one after another, just doesn't lead to an in-depth conversation.  I feel like I'm listening to some kind of incompetent radio version of "Jeopardy!" 

[Falkie2013]

I'd say "for not actively INTERACTING with his guest."  There's just a lack of an interesting conversation between two engaged individuals most of the time.  The reliance by Noory on canned questions, one after another, just doesn't lead to an in-depth conversation.  I feel like I'm listening to some kind of incompetent radio version of "Jeopardy!"

And Trebek has a better mustache too.

[albrecht]

I definitely preferred it when Art was on C2C, and even Ian, than George I am not as much a hater (at least he doesn't periodically quit things, move around, come back, quit, etc.) Ok, so I'm still a little bitter! But one, of the many annoying things, George does is play with every caller's name. Maybe he is bored? Maybe he is trying to be friendly? Maybe it is just a game he plays with himself? But if a caller is Robert he will say "hi Bobby", if a caller calls in as "Bob" or "Bobby" he will answer "hi Robert". And so on. With every name he can. Just a weird thing I've always noticed.

[ItsOver]

And Trebek has a better mustache too.

True.  And he doesn't look like Saddam Hussein.  Not that there's anything wrong with that. 

[SciFiAuthor]

Simple as to why noory sucks, he cant speak clearly. He can't complete more than a couple sentences without a mispronunciation. He can't make relevant conversation. He responds with questions that even a ten year old would have logic problems with. Add to that a feeling of a disingenuous attitude and you have the basic problems with noory.

Grains of truth driven to overstatement by an M.O. of inherent dislike. In truth I think he speaks perfectly clearly, flubs about once an hour or less, DOES drift but otherwise asks questions at about the same level as anyone else in broadcast media (which I consider to be dumbed down. That's one of the reasons I liked Art, he'll ask a technical question without hesitation and assume people know what he's talking about) and I have never detected a disingenuous attitude beyond that required to interview a numerologist or a werewolf in the first place.

[SciFiAuthor]

You miss the point entirely. Again. Art is taking a lot of criticism for quitting and disagreement with his reasons. I've added my voice to that. But nobody is attacking Art's competence as a broadcaster. He is one of the great broadcast naturals.
Noory can't write copy, read copy, speak coherently, conduct an interview or interact with callers. He never reads or even familiarises himself with his guests' books. He is not 'distracted' during interviews, he is just lazy. The same cue card questions, the non sequiturs, the same old anecdotes and platitudes. The lies, the self-promotion, the grandiosity.
The other night, with the Tarot woman, he asked her a question, obviously aware that a break was coming up fast. She begins to answer. She manages about half a sentence before Noory interrupts and asks her to 'hold that thought' and continue with it after the break. After the break, of course, he asks a completely different question and his previous enquiry goes unanswered. He does it all the time. It's infuriating. We don't make this up, you know. He is simply not fit for purpose. Why you continue to try to defend the indefensible is honestly beyond me.

They aren't attacking Art on that basis ... yet. The seeds of it have already been sewn with the now fairly common criticism that Dark Matter wasn't up to snuff. Go check it, it's there. If left on it's own it would be a few weeks tops before the hyperanalysis of his broadcast style began and the nitpicks began streaming out to become jokes.

You do realize that Art said he didn't read his guests books beforehand, did you catch that one on the program?

I think about half the criticisms are, in fact, made up. The lisp certainly is. Some of what you say is valid, some of it there's no way you could know--such as most of the alleged lies--and some of them describe every radio host there is. Laziness? Look at the guy's schedule to resoundingly prove that misguided. Self-promotion? You won't get far in any branch of the entertainment industry if you don't self-promote.

I'm not defending anything, Noory is an uninteresting interviewer. He makes things sound too infomercial-like, especially lately. The health and wellness programs are bad news, because they could easily be mistaken for paid programming by anyone sliding along the dial. What I'm doing is being reasonable, because, well, I said months ago that everyone would eventually turn on Art given the climate. Well, it happened. Now watch how it evolves should Art honor his non-compete. Watch it seethe and grow like Noory's criticisms did until it finally becomes exactly the same monster.

[SciFiAuthor]

Unrequited dolphin love, although I'm not so sure about the unrequited part. 


Captain & Tennille MUSKRAT LOVE


Oh well, I'll give you credit for persistence, SciFi, and you're reasonably diplomatic about the whole thing with Noory.  At least for an aquatic mammal.

I'm just out of stuff to do when I can't think of anything to write for work. No good radio to tune in to, can't drink during the day time, no good music coming out these days, so I come in here and bitch.

[SciFiAuthor]

I concede the Trebec moustache. It's a fine, fine example of a television moustache that could host it's own game show.

[Nebraska888]

You miss the point entirely. Again. Art is taking a lot of criticism for quitting and disagreement with his reasons. I've added my voice to that. But nobody is attacking Art's competence as a broadcaster. He is one of the great broadcast naturals.
Noory can't write copy, read copy, speak coherently, conduct an interview or interact with callers. He never reads or even familiarises himself with his guests' books. He is not 'distracted' during interviews, he is just lazy. The same cue card questions, the non sequiturs, the same old anecdotes and platitudes. The lies, the self-promotion, the grandiosity.
The other night, with the Tarot woman, he asked her a question, obviously aware that a break was coming up fast. She begins to answer. She manages about half a sentence before Noory interrupts and asks her to 'hold that thought' and continue with it after the break. After the break, of course, he asks a completely different question and his previous enquiry goes unanswered. He does it all the time. It's infuriating. We don't make this up, you know. He is simply not fit for purpose. Why you continue to try to defend the indefensible is honestly beyond me.

AMEN!   

[Nebraska888]

I definitely preferred it when Art was on C2C, and even Ian, than George I am not as much a hater (at least he doesn't periodically quit things, move around, come back, quit, etc.) Ok, so I'm still a little bitter! But one, of the many annoying things, George does is play with every caller's name. Maybe he is bored? Maybe he is trying to be friendly? Maybe it is just a game he plays with himself? But if a caller is Robert he will say "hi Bobby", if a caller calls in as "Bob" or "Bobby" he will answer "hi Robert". And so on. With every name he can. Just a weird thing I've always noticed.

I know......it irritates me!!!!   

[NoMoreNoory]

I think about half the criticisms are, in fact, made up.

Really? 1313 (Mockingbird Lane) pages of meticulously documented mangling of the language, ineptitude, rudeness and downright stupidity, and you think we're inventing it. Soundbites, compilations, verbatim transcripts etc. I suggest you go back to page 1, start with MV's first compilation of Nooryisms and read through this thread until you arrive here. Then try telling us half of it is made up and Noory is really a quite good radio presenter/talk show host.

[gbneely]

People perceive George Noory as sucking because this is work to him. Being on the radio is his job and he'll grind away at it. What he lacks in talent, he attempts to make up in work ethic. And I do have to admire his work ethic, but this was not his calling, it is his vocation. The greats, like Art, never give you the impression they're working. You are just part of the conversation and it's a joy to be a part of when it happens. The questions come naturally and the conversation is easy. That, for me, is what separates the greats from the not so greats. I think that's something you're born with. George wasn't and he had an impossible mission to accomplish in filling Art Bell's shoes. 

[ItsOver]

Really? 1313 (Mockingbird Lane) pages of meticulously documented mangling of the language, ineptitude, rudeness and downright stupidity, and you think we're inventing it. Soundbites, compilations, verbatim transcripts etc. I suggest you go back to page 1, start with MV's first compilation of Nooryisms and read through this thread until you arrive here. Then try telling us half of it is made up and Noory is really a quite good radio presenter/talk show host.

They're all wrong.  One dolphin is right. 

[georgesucks]

Well, Georges sucks at many things but quitting is not one of them.

[ItsOver]

Well, Georges sucks at many things but quitting is not one of them.

Where the hell is Jess when you really need him?

[SciFiAuthor]

Really? 1313 (Mockingbird Lane) pages of meticulously documented mangling of the language, ineptitude, rudeness and downright stupidity, and you think we're inventing it. Soundbites, compilations, verbatim transcripts etc. I suggest you go back to page 1, start with MV's first compilation of Nooryisms and read through this thread until you arrive here. Then try telling us half of it is made up and Noory is really a quite good radio presenter/talk show host.

Take a random 20 pages and read them. It's far from what you claim. It's actually hard to find what you claim. Most of it is shit about a lisp that categorically does not exist, gifs that range from the benign and funny to Noory as Hitler, flagrant self-promotions by the members about their prank calling abilities, attacks and insinuations particularly concerning his dead aunt, endless pizza roll content and the like. There is actually very little serious criticism, and even when you do see it, about half if it cannot be observed if you go looking for it.

And look at the Quit thread. We've had insinuations that Art killed his wife (the guy that tossed that out deserves a lawsuit), a nefarious plot that Art was looking for a way to quit again despite an airtight reason for leaving, child bride stuff, and so on. It's the same thing, forming up again, even by old members and heading in the same direction.

Such is the mob mentality. 

[SciFiAuthor]

Where the hell is Jess when you really need him?

It takes more than Jess to get George off the radio. You'd need the whole list, including the gay people and Hoagland's accutron.

[ItsOver]

It takes more than Jess to get George off the radio. You'd need the whole list, including the gay people and Hoagland's accutron.

Simply amazing.  I'm not even sure The Killshot could take him down.  It must be the combined power of Turmeric and Carnivora.  Damn immune modulation.

[SciFiAuthor]

Well, he's got Bill Mumy backing him. I just don't see how anything could take him down with powerful friends like that

[ItsOver]

Well, he's got Bill Mumy backing him. I just don't see how anything could take him down with powerful friends like that

Hahaha...the power of Billy Mumy, that may be it.  Me TV aired Mumy's episode last week with him putting folks "in the cornfield."  "What you just did is very good.  Very good!"  Mess with Jess but not Billy.