George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium

[BobGrau]

It is bothersome to me that I find this to be an excellent post.

Any post beginning with "fuck the moon" is worth a read.

[nooryisawesome]

TONIGHT on CAN MISS RADIO WITH GNOORY
Micheal Cremo


'Forbidden archeologist' Michael Cremo will discuss the latest DNA discovery showing that humans like us have existed far longer than the general scientific community will acknowledge. He'll also update his work on ancient aliens, and catastrophes in world history.

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Michael Cremo's book "Forbidden Archaeology" makes a number of claims, chiefly that creatures comparable to modern humans have walked the Earth for millions of years, instead of the hundreds of thousands postulated by most scientists.

Cremo's "research" is deeply flawed, relying upon resources from the late 19th and early 20th centuries, the book ignores newer data that contradicts his claims. Disregarding all the current research on human evolution, Cremo barrels on making comical claim after comical claim, never providing any solid data to back up his fantasy land.

A nice detailed review of the book can be found here:
www.ramtops.co.uk/tarzia.html


Despite all this hard work, I think the book falls short of a scientific work primarily (but not entirely) because (1) its arguments abandon the testing of simpler hypothesis before the more complex and sensationalistic ones, and (2) the use of so many outdated sources is inadequate for a book that seeks to overturn the well-established paradigm of human evolution -- scholars must not work in isolation, especially today, when multi-disciplinary approaches are needed to remain on the cutting edge of knowledge. However, for researchers studying the growth, folklore, and rhetoric of pseudo-science, the book is useful as ‘field’ data.


I hesitate in judging the book to be utterly worthless from a scientific standpoint -- various specialists need to compare notes on the book -- but if worthy ideas exist in Forbidden Archaeology , they are hidden under a mass of undisciplined details, lack of critical contextual information, leaps of logic, and special pleading.

"Forbidden Archaeology" makes a lot of claims based upon inaccurate data. The sheer volume of bad data gives it a sheen of believability, mainly because it would take so much time to examine each piece of flawed information. In the end, Cremo doesn't support his claims with reliable source material.

The question at hand is this:

Is Cremo an incompetent researcher with a poor grasp upon reality, or an outright fraud, intent upon deceiving people to sell books?

http://blog.matthewmiller.net/2009/01/michael-cremo-fraud-or-just-incompetent.html

[aldousburbank]

Any post beginning with "fuck the moon" is worth a read.

Best top right shit ever!

[b_dubb]

Best top right shit ever!

Best top right shit ever!

[EBE123]

George: "Is this one of your first novels?"
William: "Actually, I've written about forty of them, now."

[bateman]

George: "Is this one of your first novels?"
William: "Actually, I've written about forty of them, now."

Reminds me of 1:17


http://youtu.be/Qtg9hIh--Kg

[NoMoreNoory]

In the spirit of George's beating/clicking/batting eyes and misplaced fingers and thumbs, tonight George offers that an apple a day just might 'make the doctor go away'.
No, Joorchie. You see, the whole point is that the humble fruit reputedly keeps the doctor away, so he is not with you in the first place, so you have no need to make him go away......oh, never mind.
Suck on, Nooron.

[bateman]

"The east coast of Idaho" hahahahaha

[nooryisawesome]

Whose ready for Cremo to "enlighten" us with 1700's science.

[Sambo]

Fuck that. The last guest was shit enough. Gnight

[ZHero]

Reminds me of 1:17


http://youtu.be/Qtg9hIh--Kg

Ah George, master of the pre-show prep.  He must be using his index cards as coasters.  No pun intended.

[Morgus]

Haha, Noory just asked Cremo about the "Sand scripts" of ancient India.
Cremo corrected him telling about the ancient "sanskrit" writings. 

[SciFiAuthor]

Fuck the moon
We have problems here we can't fix
China is just going to turn it into a giant gulag or iPod factory anyways
Pretty hard to commit suicide by jumping from a factory window when you fall in super slow-mo gravity.

I thought a Sci-if authors were supposed to be futurists of sorts?  You couldn't see past your nose.  Let china have it and become irradiated.

Besides we never went to the moon.  We haven't "gone back" becUse Kubrick died In 1998.   The radiation of space keeps us here on earth forever alone.  Which is fine because we can't handle this planet let alone another

Trying too hard again Dan. I do find the conspiracy theories funny though, especially the radiation one as though nothing in the universe can shield against its unstoppable power.

If China sends a robotic prospector to the moon it means they see an economic angle. In the past whenever China saw an economic angle, we've always been on the losing end. Well, here's another one. Bush knew it a decade ago, and that's why he proposed a moon program. Obama cancelled it and has our pants down and it's going to cost us huge in the 2020's to 2030's.

[Mind Flayer Monk]

If China sends a robotic prospector to the moon it means they see an economic angle. In the past whenever China saw an economic angle, we've always been on the losing end. Well, here's another one.

Umm you know we destroyed their economy with silver in the past right? As well as guns/gunsmiths and shipbuilding?
They are losing their shirts in Iraq, too.

And logistically, how are the going to get material back? Coming back is the hard part. It will end up costing $10 million per kilo of whatever they mine. And they don't even know what to mine or where its at. What if your drill breaks while you are up on the moon? No one to repair it. Much too difficult and costly.

[PB the Deplorable]

... If China sends a robotic prospector to the moon it means they see an economic angle...

Military angle

[Mind Flayer Monk]

Military angle

hmm possibly...the most valuable military device in space would be an intel gathering system, specifically something to gather the positions of our hidden communications satellites.

[onan]

Military angle

The same thing holds true for military strategies as does for mining. The moon is too far away for any current tech to deliver any offensive or counter offensive weapons.

[steelbot]

The same thing holds true for military strategies as does for mining. The moon is too far away for any current tech to deliver any offensive or counter offensive weapons.

.....unless....we already have a base there, made out of giant geodesic domes....and stargate programs to provide the logistics of such an endeavor....


and um....yeah that's all SCI-FI wishful thinking at this point in our technology me thinks!

[steelbot]

hmm possibly...the most valuable military device in space would be an intel gathering system, specifically something to gather the positions of our other countries hidden communications satellites.

Fixed! :

hrm.......

[Mind Flayer Monk]

.....unless....we already have a base there, made out of giant geodesic domes....and stargate programs to provide the logistics of such an endeavor....

I'll make sure to bring my German dictionary and Wagner records. 

[steelbot]

I'll make sure to bring my German dictionary and Wagner records. 

LOL- i was referencing Hoagyland's photos of the moon, but the Nazi's on the moon cheesy flick last year was indeed syfy worthy!

[valdez]

...incompetent researcher..or an outright fraud...?

...oh, never mind...

     Christian Wilde on the benefits of eating apples.  Dr. Tony Youn on people who think they're pregnant, but ain't.  Stan Dayo on how we'll all be breathing glass when that Yellowstone Caldera Super Monster Volcano finally blows sooner rather than later and that ain't fear mongering.  Michael Cremo on that ancient super advanced civilization that existed millions of years ago and the reason we don't find their laptops and ipads is because that stuff disintegrates but we do find stone arrows because evidently this psychotically advanced super civilization existed alongside people that were in the stone age and Cremo's evidence for this is two lumps of coal found with something metallic in them.

[DanTSX]

Trying too hard again Dan. I do find the conspiracy theories funny though, especially the radiation one as though nothing in the universe can shield against its unstoppable power.

If China sends a robotic prospector to the moon it means they see an economic angle. In the past whenever China saw an economic angle, we've always been on the losing end. Well, here's another one. Bush knew it a decade ago, and that's why he proposed a moon program. Obama cancelled it and has our pants down and it's going to cost us huge in the 2020's to 2030's.

Trying too what?


Moon lol

[Jocko Johnson]

Trying too hard again Dan. I do find the conspiracy theories funny though, especially the radiation one as though nothing in the universe can shield against its unstoppable power.

If China sends a robotic prospector to the moon it means they see an economic angle. In the past whenever China saw an economic angle, we've always been on the losing end. Well, here's another one. Bush knew it a decade ago, and that's why he proposed a moon program. Obama cancelled it and has our pants down and it's going to cost us huge in the 2020's to 2030's.

Hey jerky...why don't you just write a sci-fi story about it.

[FallenSeraph]

LEAVE THE DOLPHIN ALONE!

Can't we disagree without being complete assholes to each other?

Kumbaya and all that, bitches.

[aldousburbank]

Or be agreeable complete assholes?

[DanTSX]

Umm you know we destroyed their economy with silver in the past right? As well as guns/gunsmiths and shipbuilding?
They are losing their shirts in Iraq, too.

And logistically, how are the going to get material back? Coming back is the hard part. It will end up costing $10 million per kilo of whatever they mine. And they don't even know what to mine or where its at. What if your drill breaks while you are up on the moon? No one to repair it. Much too difficult and costly.

Transporter beams duh

[BobGrau]

Umm you know we destroyed their economy with silver in the past right? As well as guns/gunsmiths and shipbuilding?
They are losing their shirts in Iraq, too.

And logistically, how are the going to get material back? Coming back is the hard part. It will end up costing $10 million per kilo of whatever they mine. And they don't even know what to mine or where its at. What if your drill breaks while you are up on the moon? No one to repair it. Much too difficult and costly.

They're called Slaves.

[coaster]

Turned on Noory for a few minutes last night. Turned it off after he mumbled something about a tsirnami whatever the hell that is.

[Jocko Johnson]

Or be agreeable complete assholes?

I think I like your idea better than the angel's.  But heck (that better seraphim27no dirty words) just jumping in the H2O to play with the dolphin!