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President Donald J. Trump

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Jackstar

Quote from: FightTheFuture on October 12, 2016, 10:11:23 AM
I just never would have guessed that Trump was a creepy old pervert. Go figure.

Walking in UNannounced to the Miss TEEN USA contestant`s dressing room.




Is this... is this your 'A' game? Is this all you got? Do you call yourself a salesman, you son-of-a-bitch?

Quote from: Jackstar on October 12, 2016, 11:35:53 AM



Is this... is this your 'A' game? Is this all you got? Do you call yourself a salesman, you son-of-a-bitch?

She`s too young to even know who the hell Bill Clinton IS, much less adore him.

136 or 142

Quote from: Astrid Galactic on October 12, 2016, 11:25:52 AM
In the meantime, Obonor sprouts one for the ladies of the press.

https://news.grabien.com/story-video-2008-campaign-appears-show-obama-flaunting-erection-fe

It looks to me like he was just moving from a seated position to a standing position.

136 or 142

Quote from: Jackstar on October 12, 2016, 11:35:53 AM



Is this... is this your 'A' game? Is this all you got? Do you call yourself a salesman, you son-of-a-bitch?

Jackstar, I allege you're a rapist.  Do your wife and children still adore you?

I also allege that you killed JFK.

136 or 142

Donald Trump:
“I’ll tell you the funniest is that I’ll go backstage before a show and everyone’s getting dressed,” Trump told Howard Stern in a 2005 recording released by CNN.

“No men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in, because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it. … ‘Is everyone OK?’ You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody OK?’ And you see these incredible-looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.”

Stern replied, “You’re like a doctor.”

As I've written before, this alleged man is deranged.

Derangememt:
1.Does not know what 'social norms' are.
2.Does not understand why society considers social norms to be important.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: 136 or 142 on October 12, 2016, 02:30:10 PM
Donald Trump:
“I’ll tell you the funniest is that I’ll go backstage before a show and everyone’s getting dressed,” Trump told Howard Stern in a 2005 recording released by CNN.

“No men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in, because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it. … ‘Is everyone OK?’ You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody OK?’ And you see these incredible-looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.”

Stern replied, “You’re like a doctor.”

As I've written before, this alleged man is deranged.

Derangememt:
1.Does not know what 'social norms' are.
2.Does not understand why society considers social norms to be important.

I'm puzzeled as to why Stern made the statement about Twunt being a doctor, instead of lecherous, entitled filth.

CornyCrow

Quote from: FightTheFuture on October 12, 2016, 10:11:23 AM
You know, this caught me by surprise. Gee, I just never would have guessed that Trump was a creepy old pervert. Go figure.

Walking in UNannounced to the Miss TEEN USA contestant`s dressing room. Let me tell ya, when I ran adult night clubs a thousand years ago, I ALWAYS made sure the ladies knew I was coming in no matter what!

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/miss-teen-usa-donald-trump-dressing-rooms-walked-in/2016/10/12/id/752995/
Yes.  We found out most of our presidents' odd sexual preferences AFTER they were elected into office.  This guy is giving us enough warning before hand that he is a perve.  Heaven only knows what he'd do if he were king.   

albrecht

Quote from: Segundus on October 12, 2016, 02:36:38 PM
Yes.  We found out most of our presidents' odd sexual preferences AFTER they were elected into office.  This guy is giving us enough warning before hand that he is a perve.  Heaven only knows what he'd do if he were king.
I don't see why any of this type of stuff is a surprise. Politicians are people and so with all the possible problems that people have. And even the worst of them doesn't, necessarily, mean they were, necessarily, bad at their job. Obviously, ideally we would have saints in office but it is more than the internet that spreads the information around. Some of our most important politicians and even generals were, in their private life, perverts, rapists, drunks, drug addicts or user, depressives, atheists, ego-maniacs, diseased, ardent racists, disabled, adulterers, or maybe homosexual, etc. At least in their past but some, Kennedy, Clinton, famously, while in office (or actually IN the office.) Stuff that if people knew, or that mainstream newspapers would print, would've likely caused them not to be elected or achieve high positions. Of course societal norms change over time so looking backward what we now would consider beyond the pale might have seemed normal back then, so one has to be careful.

136 or 142

Quote from: albrecht on October 12, 2016, 02:47:33 PM
I don't see why any of this type of stuff is a surprise. Politicians are people and so with all the possible problems that people have. And even the worst of them doesn't, necessarily, mean they were, necessarily, bad at their job. Obviously, ideally we would have saints in office but it is more than the internet that spreads the information around. Some of our most important politicians and even generals were, in their private life, perverts, rapists, drunks, drug addicts or user, depressives, atheists, ego-maniacs, diseased, ardent racists, disabled, adulterers, or maybe homosexual, etc. At least in their past but some, Kennedy, Clinton, famously, while in office (or actually IN the office.) Stuff that if people knew, or that mainstream newspapers would print, would've likely caused them not to be elected or achieve high positions. Of course societal norms change over time so looking backward what we now would consider beyond the pale might have seemed normal back then, so one has to be careful.

Yes, JFK was a sexual monster who almost certainly raped at least one woman and, although I don't know the extent the media knew about his likely criminal behavior, they should not have covered up what they knew.

That aside, unlike Donald Trump, at least JFK had the knowledge and experience to be a capable President.  Certainly not justifying JFK's behavior, and it's likely the House he should have been in was the Big House, but the idea that because JFK was a sexual monster and was still a capable President, means Donald Trump would also be a capable President, simply does not hold.

You didn't write that, but that seems to be the logical conclusion of what you wrote.

Quote from: albrecht on October 12, 2016, 02:47:33 PM
I don't see why any of this type of stuff is a surprise. Politicians are people and so with all the possible problems that people have. And even the worst of them doesn't, necessarily, mean they were, necessarily, bad at their job. Obviously, ideally we would have saints in office but it is more than the internet that spreads the information around. Some of our most important politicians and even generals were, in their private life, perverts, rapists, drunks, drug addicts or user, depressives, atheists, ego-maniacs, diseased, ardent racists, disabled, adulterers, or maybe homosexual, etc. At least in their past but some, Kennedy, Clinton, famously, while in office (or actually IN the office.) Stuff that if people knew, or that mainstream newspapers would print, would've likely caused them not to be elected or achieve high positions. Of course societal norms change over time so looking backward what we now would consider beyond the pale might have seemed normal back then, so one has to be careful.

A most excellent point.  Repugnant people are repugnant people, and repugnant people do what repugnant people do, whether they are powerful and living in the White House or they are kings of Jack shit and live in section eight housing somewhere in or around the bay area. 

136 or 142

Quote from: Billy Joe Mulgreavey on October 12, 2016, 02:53:59 PM
A most excellent point.  Repugnant people are repugnant people, and repugnant people do what repugnant people do, whether they are powerful and living in the White House or they are kings of Jack shit and live in section eight housing somewhere in or around the bay area.

Depressives, diseased, disabled, atheists and homosexuals are not repugnant people.  I also wouldn't pass judgement on whether being adulterous, a drug addict or an alcoholic makes a person repugnant.

Quote from: 136 or 142 on October 12, 2016, 02:58:58 PM
Depressives, diseased, disabled, atheists and homosexuals are not repugnant people.  I also wouldn't pass judgement on whether being adulterous, a drug addict or an alcoholic makes a person repugnant.

OK.

albrecht

Quote from: Billy Joe Mulgreavey on October 12, 2016, 02:53:59 PM
A most excellent point.  Repugnant people are repugnant people, and repugnant people do what repugnant people do, whether they are powerful and living in the White House or they are kings of Jack shit and live in section eight housing somewhere in or around the bay area.
True though becoming a powerful politician, being a royal, becoming a "star" athlete or actor, or simply becoming very rich means more access to do whatever perversion/actions you want and people will likely 'cover up' your actions since you are making them money, national security, ratings, etc. Fame also attracts fans, groupies, and followers so more people who can be exploited. And with lots of money you can hire hit teams to gather "dirt" on enemies, the press, and hire the best attorneys so your crimes/perversions are less likely to come to light (at least while you are alive.)

CornyCrow

Quote from: albrecht on October 12, 2016, 02:47:33 PM
I don't see why any of this type of stuff is a surprise. Politicians are people and so with all the possible problems that people have. And even the worst of them doesn't, necessarily, mean they were, necessarily, bad at their job. Obviously, ideally we would have saints in office but it is more than the internet that spreads the information around. Some of our most important politicians and even generals were, in their private life, perverts, rapists, drunks, drug addicts or user, depressives, atheists, ego-maniacs, diseased, ardent racists, disabled, adulterers, or maybe homosexual, etc. At least in their past but some, Kennedy, Clinton, famously, while in office (or actually IN the office.) Stuff that if people knew, or that mainstream newspapers would print, would've likely caused them not to be elected or achieve high positions. Of course societal norms change over time so looking backward what we now would consider beyond the pale might have seemed normal back then, so one has to be careful.
I suppose we just have different standards.  If a man called his daughter a 'piece of a**' in front of me I'd end the conversation, then and there.  I'd have nothing to do with the creep.  I certainly would not vote for him.  You'd tolerate this?  You think it's within the realm of normal behavior?  I really doubt it. 

Even the 'locker room talk'.  If you heard your son's friend saying such things, I suspect you'd put an end to that, and quickly.  If your daughter's boy friend said such things, you'd try and put an end to that relationship. 

Rape allegations towards famous and rich people often occur and it is frequently speculation as to what occurred.  Even Cosby's situation was glossed over until there were SO MANY women coming forward that we all think there must be some truth to it.  The wealthy often pay just to shut the woman up, even though not much occurred - or figuring that she saw the situation differently. 

The last time I heard 'locker room' talk like that was during the OJ trial, where he said/did things like that to his wife.  I thought to myself that he is a poorly educated footballer and probably takes drugs.  I don't expect such talk from a presidential candidate. 

Quote from: 136 or 142 on October 12, 2016, 02:58:58 PM
Depressives, diseased, disabled, atheists and homosexuals are not repugnant people.  I also wouldn't pass judgement on whether being adulterous, a drug addict or an alcoholic makes a person repugnant.

I wonder if the irony of this statement reaches this person after the last several weeks of their posting.

albrecht

Quote from: Segundus on October 12, 2016, 03:09:03 PM
I suppose we just have different standards.  If a man called his daughter a 'piece of a**' in front of me I'd end the conversation, then and there.  I'd have nothing to do with the creep.  I certainly would not vote for him.  You'd tolerate this?  You think it's within the realm of normal behavior?  I really doubt it. 

Even the 'locker room talk'.  If you heard your son's friend saying such things, I suspect you'd put an end to that, and quickly.  If your daughter's boy friend said such things, you'd try and put an end to that relationship. 

Rape allegations towards famous and rich people often occur and it is frequently speculation as to what occurred.  Even Cosby's situation was glossed over until there were SO MANY women coming forward that we all think there must be some truth to it.  The wealthy often pay just to shut the woman up, even though not much occurred - or figuring that she saw the situation differently. 

The last time I heard 'locker room' talk like that was during the OJ trial, where he said/did things like that to his wife.  I thought to myself that he is a poorly educated footballer and probably takes drugs.  I don't expect such talk from a presidential candidate.
Not in ALL cases but certain occupations attract a certain personality, I think. People who want underlings, to be "in charge," narcissism, want to tell people what to do, etc.If the press reported more on the on-going language and actions of people like LBJ, Kennedy, and likely all the way back people might have not elected them. But many people, at least on some issues, say they did a good job in office.

But it can also work "both ways" being famous, or in the case of an athlete or music star, who might not be educated or just young and wild (or maybe not even a good person) but faced with sudden wealth also attracts those who want to exploit THEM and so will try to get them into situations where rape or sexual harassment can be accused in hope of a settlement or fame. What surprises me constantly that rich, famous people chose to put themselves in that type of situation. I know doctors, businessmen, professors, etc who purposely have a policies if they are meeting with someone of the opposite sex or in a situation that any impropriety could be alleged (door remains open, another person involved, things are recorded, the meeting is held at the appropriate place- not come up to my room to check out the spread-sheets, etc.)

Jackstar

Quote from: Segundus on October 12, 2016, 03:09:03 PM
I thought to myself that he is a poorly educated footballer and probably takes drugs.  I don't expect such talk from a presidential candidate.

You remember George W. Bush, right? I feel like your metric of acceptable behavior here is largely niche.

CornyCrow

Quote from: Jackstar on October 12, 2016, 03:26:18 PM
You remember George W. Bush, right? I feel like your metric of acceptable behavior here is largely niche.
Sorry that I'm so dense, but I don't follow you.  I never though W was inappropriate with anyone.  I think he was out of his element, was used by CHeney, and discovered that too late.  I like the guy and I like his paintings.  He might have had a much happier life in another family. 

mikuthing01

Jill Stein just basically endorsed Trump and dropped red pills on Hillary wanting to start WW3.

>2016
>be libtarded
>aborted all their children
>want to hug conservative children with nuclear arms

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4624521/jill-stein-donald-trump-better-russia

albrecht

Quote from: Segundus on October 12, 2016, 03:29:30 PM
Sorry that I'm so dense, but I don't follow you.  I never though W was inappropriate with anyone.  I think he was out of his element, was used by CHeney, and discovered that too late.  I like the guy and I like his paintings.  He might have had a much happier life in another family.
Though that surprise shoulder massage of Merkel that time was a bit weird. But yeah, I never heard any serious rumors even when he was running the Rangers, was our governor, etc like with Clinton and some other politicians.

136 or 142

Quote from: VoteQuimby on October 12, 2016, 03:18:49 PM
I wonder if the irony of this statement reaches this person after the last several weeks of their posting.

I have no idea what you are referring to. You're repugnant because you murdered your father and then raped your mother.  What's the got to do with those other things?

136 or 142

Quote from: mikuthing01 on October 12, 2016, 03:30:29 PM
Jill Stein just basically endorsed Trump and dropped red pills on Hillary wanting to start WW3.

>2016
>be libtarded
>aborted all their children
>want to hug conservative children with nuclear arms

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4624521/jill-stein-donald-trump-better-russia

This is another example of why the fringe parties remain fringe parties. 

Interesting reading these analytics and what's happening on Twitter right now.

https://twitter.com/search?q=%22Blacks%20for%20Trump%22&src=tren

https://twitter.com/BEAYAHUS/status/786308744246198272

Quote from: 136 or 142 on October 12, 2016, 03:52:07 PM
I have no idea what you are referring to.

Of course you don't.


136 or 142

Quote from: VoteQuimby on October 12, 2016, 03:56:27 PM
Interesting reading these analytics and what's happening on Twitter right now.


Of course you don't.

I know you're looking desperately looking for anything you can find to confirm your wishful thinking.

Quote from: 136 or 142 on October 12, 2016, 03:58:54 PM
I know you're looking desperately looking for anything you can find to confirm your wishful thinking.

My wishful thinking? That black folks are capable of making their own decisions? That's pretty racist of you.

136 or 142

Quote from: VoteQuimby on October 12, 2016, 04:01:46 PM
My wishful thinking? That black folks are capable of making their own decisions? That's pretty racist of you.

Indeed they are, and that's why nearly all polls have Hillary Clinton winning around 95-97% of the black vote.

GravitySucks

Quote from: 136 or 142 on October 12, 2016, 04:02:32 PM
Indeed they are, and that's why nearly all polls have Hillary Clinton winning around 95-97% of the black vote.

Not this one
http://graphics.latimes.com/usc-presidential-poll-dashboard/


CornyCrow

Quote from: albrecht on October 12, 2016, 03:35:37 PM
Though that surprise shoulder massage of Merkel that time was a bit weird. But yeah, I never heard any serious rumors even when he was running the Rangers, was our governor, etc like with Clinton and some other politicians.
Oh, that was funny.  Yes, it was inappropriate as well.  What I thought was interesting was the mysterious stomach virus his staff caught afterwards.  Revenge must have been sweet. 

Value Of Pi

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on October 12, 2016, 02:35:39 PM
I'm puzzeled as to why Stern made the statement about Twunt being a doctor, instead of lecherous, entitled filth.

That's part of Howard's patronizing style of humor. He's always encouraging guests to share more of their sordid and embarrassing stuff by making these left-handed compliments.

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