President Donald J. Trump

[21st Century Man]

There is no reason to look it up because it would take me forever... The first question is which ruling we are referring to...  I suppose the question to PB and others who think that the ACLU went judge shopping is which of the judges below are they most concerned about?

US District Judge Ann Donnelly was one of the judges who ruled a stay.

US district court for Eastern Virginia Judge Leonie Brinkema ruled that permanent citizens could not be deported right now and that passengers in Dulles be permitted access to lawyers.

In Washington, US District Judge Thomas Zilly issued a stay to deport two unnamed individuals.

In Massachusetts, US District Judge Allison Burroughs and Magistrate Judge Judith G. Dein ruled that permanent residents could not be deported and that people could not be removed, deported or detained based on the executive order.

I'm sure there are other judges in other jurisdictions.  But it seems that perhaps Trumps order may not be completely legal or constitutional (that is a lot of judges to rule in one direction without, seemingly, a single defeat for the ACLU.)

***Time well spent.  Shitposting on bellgab is where I get my pleasure. 

You are asking us Bellgabbers to do far too much work researching.  Who needs to do that when shit posting is much more fun? 

To be serious though, considering that the Great and Mighty O had 8 years to fill up the courts with like-minded judges, it will take a while to even the score.

[Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost]

***Time well spent.  Shitposting on bellgab is where I get my pleasure. 

The simple pleasures are the best! 

Cheers!

[K_Dubb]

I'm ashamed to say I had to look up whether due process and equal protection apply to foreigners -- they do.  Given that, I'd think the idea someone should be deprived of the right to enter, once granted, without them would be uncontroversial.  That's the only thing at stake right now, not all that silly religious-test stuff everyone is bawling about.

[WOTR]

You are asking us Bellgabbers to do far too much work researching.  Who needs to do that when shit posting is much more fun? 

To be serious though, considering that the Great and Mighty O had 8 years to fill up the courts with like-minded judges, it will take a while to even the score.

Fine.  farbeit for me to not do a degree of Bellgab's research and homework for them.

US District Judge Thomas Zilly was appointed by president Regan (not Obama.)

Judge Ann Donnelly was appointed by the evil Obama.

Judge Leonie Brinkema was appointed by Bill Clinton (another damn Democrat.)

Judge Allison Burroughs was also appointed by the evil Obama.

That is at least 50% of the judges appointed by Obama and 75% of them appointed by a Democrat... But 100% of them were wrong in their activist rulings. 

[WOTR]

I'm ashamed to say I had to look up whether due process and equal protection apply to foreigners -- they do.  Given that, I'd think the idea someone should be deprived of the right to enter, once granted, without them would be uncontroversial.  That's the only thing at stake right now, not all that silly religious-test stuff everyone is bawling about.

It's funny... As a Canadian who has visited the US on numerous occasions I looked it up many years ago (before my first visit.)  I was very curious and somewhat surprised to find that I am afforded the same protections as an American citizen (and, I believe, it works for Americans in Canada as well...)

[Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost]

I'm ashamed to say I had to look up whether due process and equal protection apply to foreigners -- they do.  Given that, I'd think the idea someone should be deprived of the right to enter, once granted, without them would be uncontroversial.  That's the only thing at stake right now, not all that silly religious-test stuff everyone is bawling about.

Heretic. Reported.

[21st Century Man]

I'm ashamed to say I had to look up whether due process and equal protection apply to foreigners -- they do.  Given that, I'd think the idea someone should be deprived of the right to enter, once granted, without them would be uncontroversial.  That's the only thing at stake right now, not all that silly religious-test stuff everyone is bawling about.

Yeah, right.  It is not a religious test.  Here are a list of countries that are predominantly Muslim.  The ones in bold are the only ones on the list.  Frankly I think more countries like Saudi Arabia should be added.



Country

Muslims as % Population
Maldives
100
Mauritania
100
Afghanistan
99.8
Tunisia
99.8
Iran
99.7
Western Sahara
99.6
Morocco
99
Tajikistan
99
Yemen
99
Iraq
98.9
Somalia
98.9
Mayotte
98.8
Turkey
98.6
Azerbaijan
98.4
Comoros
98.3
Niger
98.3
Algeria
98.2
Saudia Arabia
97.1
Djibouti
97
Sudan
97
Libya
96.6
Uzbekistan
96.5
Pakistan
96.4
Senegal
95.9
Kosovo
95.6
Gambia
95.3
Mali
95
Jordan
93.8
Turkmenistan
93.3
Egypt
90
Syria
90
Kyrgyzstan
88.8
Oman
87.7
Indonesia
87.2
Bangladesh
86.3
Guinea
84.2
Qatar
77.5
United Arab Emirates
76.0
Kuwait
74.1
Sierra Leone
71.5
Bahrain
70.2
Kazakhstan
70.2
Brunei
67
Malaysia
61.4
Burkina Faso
60.5
Lebanon
59.7
Albania
58.8
Chad
58
Bosnia-Herzegovina
50.7
Guinea Bissau
50

[pate]

Oh lord you can't make this up!  Great story.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wa4U6TQlNI

[Taaroa]

Yeah, right.  It is not a religious test.  Here are a list of countries that are predominantly Muslim.  The ones in bold are the only ones on the list.  Frankly I think more countries like Saudi Arabia should be added.

Indonesia is a good one. They've certainly had a fair number of terrorist attacks done by their citizens against westerners, and had people joining ISIS.

[Lt.Uhura]

[21st Century Man]

:

[pate]

I realize you have just awakened from artificial hibernation, Lt. U.  Amazing that your dreams of the past eight years have actually given you a sort of pre-escience.  Mmm..

Bones, do you think she has snapped out of her GWB'rang'cht(Klingon 'ranslation Syndrome) or she should be further medicated?

Jim, I am a brane scientist, not one of your psychologist barbarian voodoo doctors..

She's brane-dead, Jim!

[pate]

Yeah!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8YObVupL8c

and/or


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIiUwZfqMSU

MAPA

[Dr. MD MD]

Trump changed the curtains in the Oval Office within days of moving in, but he couldn't come up with his own banned countries list, lol?

Curtains?! Are you fucking kidding me?! You're really watching him that closely?! 

SciFi's right! Trump's your white orange whale. 

[Meister_000]

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[Dr. MD MD]

I had figured that the right would be the ones to kick off violence.  I figured that the left was going to keep winning elections and that a number of people on the right would be the ones to get fed up with it and find an outlet for their tensions.

Now it is the left who suddenly is worried about being out of power without voice.  The problem is that I believe that most on the left have never really contemplated violence (I'm not talking rioting... but punching others in a good old fashioned brawl like they had in Europe in the 20's in beerhalls and in the streets.)  One or two may think that punching a Nazi is a great idea- but they will not be prepared for the response.

Anyhow, I figure that eventually tensions on one side or the other will boil over.  I just figure that the left is a decade or more away from having people who will fight for what they believe.  The right, I think is a little closer to that.

We'll see...

What happened to due process?! Normally the left would be vigorously defending this. Instead they're effectrively telling their constituents Start punching people if you really think they're a Nazi  :

This isn't going to end well because while people on the right won't be the ones to start this stupid shit they will be the ones to finish it. The right won the right to govern the country fair and square. If the left don't like it they'll have another opportunity to change things up again in another 4 years. Perhaps they'll take it a little more seriously this time. 

[Dr. MD MD]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snwo3QhaWqk

[Dr. MD MD]

So, how long do you think it'll be before Trump orders Soros to be killed? This guy should be enemy #1, the seditious bastard! 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4BMzHKnkOE

[Meister_000]

"The Danger of Steve Bannon on the National Security Council"
Washington Post, Jan. 29, 2017: By David J. Rothkopf (ch. ed. Foreign Policy mag)

"The idea of the National Security Council (NSC), established in 1947, is to ensure that the president has the best possible advice from his Cabinet, the military and the intelligence community before making consequential decisions, and to ensure that, once those decisions are made, a centralized mechanism exists to guarantee their effective implementation. The NSC is effectively the central nervous system of the U.S. foreign policy AND national security apparatus."

"(while seating Bannon) he (Trump) essentially: demoted the highest-ranking military officer in the United States, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, *AND* the highest-ranking intelligence officer in the United States, the director of national intelligence."

"Now, those key officials will be invited only when their specific expertise is seen to be required."

"The president compounded this error of structure with an error of judgment that should send shivers down the spine of every American and our allies worldwide. Even as he pushed away professional security advice, Trump decided to make his top political advisor, Stephen K. Bannon, a permanent member of the NSC."

"Bannon is the precisely wrong person for this wrong role. His national security experience consists of a graduate degree and seven years in the Navy. More troubling, Bannon’s role as chairman of Breitbart.com, with its racist, misogynist and Islamophobic perspectives, and his avowed desire to blow up our system of government, suggests this is someone who not only has no business being a permanent member of the most powerful consultative body in the world â€" he has no business being in a position of responsibility in any government."

"Worse still, . . . . . . .

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-danger-of-steve-bannon-on-the-national-security-council/2017/01/29/ba3982a2-e663-11e6-bf6f-301b6b443624_story.html?utm_term=.cc9f90636438

[Dr. MD MD]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnrlStP4rW8

[Kidnostad3]

Do you realize that you can trigger epileptic seizures by posting images that blink like that.  How do you know that there are not many BelGabers laid out on the floor with a friend or family member trying to depress his/her tongue with a spoon.  Where is your humanity?

[Dr. MD MD]

Where is your humanity?

Traded in for a leftist ideology. 

[Kidnostad3]

I just saw Schumer get all blubbery over Trump's entry restrictions.  We also saw Obama get weepy on camera over gay rights and other issues.  News Flash for crybabies, real men don't cry on camera.  Suck it up!

[Dr. MD MD]

I just saw Schumer get all blubbery over Trump's entry restrictions.  We also saw Obama get weepy on camera over gay rights and other issues.  News Flash for crybabies, real men don't cry on camera.  Suck it up!

Well, he really tried to squeeze some out. It looked pretty phony though. Like I said, I guess the CIA tried to install some tear ducts for that press conference. 

[Dr. MD MD]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9gfvQOF7C0

[Meister_000]

Someone CALL Security!
[short excerpt of Steve Bannon (just given a permanent seat on the National Security Council by Trump) skyping-in his presentation to a conference held inside the Vatican, summer of 2014.]


https://youtu.be/JCVvc2hNVMU

[Kidnostad3]

Trump is being criticized for the way he implemented extreme vetting.  I suppose he could have announced that he would initiate it 3 or 6 months hence. Do you think that in the interim there might
be a stampede of bad guys arriving at our ports of entry trying to get in under the wire?  Yeah that's a rhetorical question.

[21st Century Man]

Someone CALL Security!
{short excerpt of Steve Bannon (just given a permanent seat at the NSC by Trump) skyping-in his presentation to a conference held inside the Vatican summer of 2014}


https://youtu.be/JCVvc2hNVMU

Give it a rest.  The only people you are impressing are those in your clique.

[Kidnostad3]

If the jacket is a 42 long and and not too pitted out, name your price.

No way dude.  I just got it out of its zipper bag and it's in perfect condition except for a few cocktail knapkins and swizzle sticks in the pockets.  The Smithsonian is going to want it someday and my kids may profit.

[Meister_000]

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