Coronavirus 2020

[VC]

It seems the dangerous "cell entry" Spike on this CV-19 Virus can be targeted effectively by our own Antibodies, according to this discovery, that's a possible reason why people do survive the illness. So, maybe this company is onto the solution before a vaccine can be developed? It will be interesting to follow its development and testing for approval nonetheless. I would NOT buy stock in it today or anytime soon though, unless you have alotto-lottery money to gamble and can lose it all on pure speculation.

In preclinical testing, Sorrento's antibody drug provided "100% inhibition" of SARS-CoV-2 â€" the new coronavirus that causes Covid-19 â€" within four days. Sorrento expects this antibody to be the first in a drug cocktail that would create a "protective shield" against infection.

"Our STI-1499 antibody shows exceptional therapeutic potential and could potentially save lives following receipt of necessary approvals," Chief Executive Henry Ji said in a written statement. "We at Sorrento are working day and night to complete the steps necessary to get this product approved."

An antibody drug is unique in coronavirus treatment research. Experts say the antibodies could either treat Covid-19 or provide preemptive immunity.

Sorrento researchers screened and tested billions of antibodies to narrow their coronavirus treatment candidates down to hundreds. They found a dozen that could prevent the viral protein from grabbing onto a key receptor in the body. The virus uses that receptor to enter human cells. There, it replicates.

The STI-1499 antibody completely blocked SARS-CoV-2 from infecting healthy cells, Sorrento said in a news release. Sorrento expects this to be the first antibody in a cocktail it's planning to call Covi-Shield. The biotech company plans to seek an accelerated regulatory review.

It's important to note Sorrento's test was preclinical. This means the biotech company hasn't yet tested its experimental coronavirus treatment in humans.

[ItsOver]

Ha ha ha.  My version of it literally since a teenager has been pastors policemen and politicians:  everyone who actually wants to be one should be disqualified.  It has never proven popular.

One of the best scenes in "Gladiator," well other than the magnificent oily bodies, in their sexy gear, is when the dying emperor explains that Maximus should become emperor precisely because he doesn't want to be emperor.

Around the 4:25 mark.


http://youtu.be/qHwckk01AAU

[K_Dubb]

One of the best scenes in "Gladiator," well other than the magnificent oily bodies, in their sexy gear, is when the dying emperor explains that Maximus should become emperor precisely because he doesn't want to be emperor.

Around the 4:25 mark.


http://youtu.be/qHwckk01AAU

Ha yeah it used to be almost expected in the classical world that you at least put up a show of reluctance.  That kind of display was credited to at least Trajan, Marcus Aurelius, and Theodosius that I can think of, and of course Washington is our own native example, influenced doubtless by that idea.  Now it's like hey gimme.  We are led by an ignorant class of uncouth baboons.

[Walks_At_Night]

It's important to note Sorrento's test was preclinical. This means the biotech company hasn't yet tested its experimental coronavirus treatment in humans.

Those on the clinical trial will give you a little wavy pooh before the dirt hits.   [Just kidding - this might be really good news]


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RClxsMPm4i4

[whoozit]

Ha yeah it used to be almost expected in the classical world that you at least put up a show of reluctance.  That kind of display was credited to at least Trajan, Marcus Aurelius, and Theodosius that I can think of, and of course Washington is our own native example, influenced doubtless by that idea.  Now it's like hey gimme.  We are led by an ignorant class of uncouth baboons.

Baboons?  Surely you meant red-assed Mandrills.


https://youtu.be/wtJyCGYgmLE

The politician is easy to pick out.

[Asuka Langley]

FORCED VACCINATIONS AND BILL GATES TATTOOS ARE COMING! PREPARE TO BOOGLE!

At an event in the White House Rose Garden, in which many administration officials wore masks but the president did not, Trump expressed his hope that a vaccine would be in place before the end of the year and said his administration would mobilize its forces to get a vaccine distributed once one was in place.

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1261366886651924480


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ittUpOirwJA

[WOTR]

Seriously, darlings. That graph was put out by Imperial College, who have been at the forefront of the campaign to take this virus seriously. Do you honestly think they would put out something that intended to show that there's 'nothing to see here'? I've got two naughty chairs set up for WOTR and whoozit. You can discuss graphs and bad analogies in a distant corner of the BG common room, with appropriate social-distancing, of course.

The idea that there is "nothing to see here" comes from your very own state owned and state run propaganda machine, the BBC. Even they are starting to see that there are only two very bad choices. Stay shut forever, or open up cautiously. It was not me who first "twisted" the stats to say that maybe it means we should not be terrified- it was your very own government run "ministry of silly walks ministry of state approved propaganda." 

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52543692

[SredniVashtar]

At least you are doing your part, you big fruit. 
I held on this long to post but couldn’t refrain any longer.

That verse is normally summarised as 'go forth and multiply', in other words, fuck off! I always remember that one because it got me kicked out of the convent.

[whoozit]

That verse is normally summarised as 'go forth and multiply', in other words, fuck off! I always remember that one because it got me kicked out of the convent.

Sorry, I went for the low hanging fruit.    Get those hernias checked.

[K_Dubb]

Baboons?  Surely you meant red-assed Mandrills.


https://youtu.be/wtJyCGYgmLE

The politician is easy to pick out.

Goodness!  I was going to say something about poo-flinging but I got nothing on the little guy who comes in to sniff his ass mid-fuck that would be a press secretary I suppose.

[whoozit]

Goodness!  I was going to say something about poo-flinging but I got nothing on the little guy who comes in to sniff his ass mid-fuck that would be a press secretary I suppose.

Yes, the whole political microcosm is portrayed.

P.S.  Those things are terrifying.  I used to have nightmares about them when I was little.  The choppers on those things put Falkie’s Snaggletooth (tm) to shame.

[Walks_At_Night]

That verse is normally summarised as 'go forth and multiply', in other words, fuck off! I always remember that one because it got me kicked out of the convent.

Did you have a happy bus ride?  Coof!  Coof!

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1260465038881685505

[SredniVashtar]

The idea that there is "nothing to see here" comes from your very own state owned and state run propaganda machine, the BBC. Even they are starting to see that there are only two very bad choices. Stay shut forever, or open up cautiously. It was not me who first "twisted" the stats to say that maybe it means we should not be terrified- it was your very own government run "ministry of silly walks ministry of state approved propaganda." 

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52543692

You're babbling. That dent in your head you got when you tried to be over - friendly with one of the local meese is clearly acting up again. Mask up and get it checked out if you think it's so safe.

[WOTR]

...You also need to factor in the needless additional deaths because health services don't have the resources to treat other illnesses, people too scared to visit hospitals and developing chronic conditions etc.

People are much more robust during difficult times than you realise. You only pretended to be in WW2, we actually lived through it and the figures for suicide were exceptionally low despite living with near-starvation and the constant threat of being bombed.

I'm going to take away that naughty chair and make you sit on the floor and let WOTR ramble on at you. It's time you learned what pain is.

I like Whoozit, enjoyed his post, and refuse to torture him in such horrible ways. I will not be used to provide the the bondage and torture material undoubtedly found in your masturbatorium.

I'm glad you bring up WWII. Do you imagine that the rise of most populist movements / tyrants had anything to do with poor economies and starving people? That is what scares me more than an individual following Art's example. 

[SredniVashtar]

Did you have a happy bus ride?  Coof!  Coof!

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1260465038881685505

They 'claim' that bus capacity is reduced to about 15%.

[whoozit]

They 'claim' that bus capacity is reduced to about 15%.

Is that an enforced rule or just the result of people staying home?  I guess packed busses mean people fear global warming more than the global pandemic.  #warming>pandemic

[WOTR]

Did you have a happy bus ride?  Coof!  Coof!

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1260465038881685505

I recall attending a circus as a youngster. The clown car provided for laughs and amazement has nothing on that London bus.

[SredniVashtar]

Is that an enforced rule or just the result of people staying home?  I guess packed busses mean people fear global warming more than the global pandemic.  #warming>pandemic

I had an email yesterday where they said that bus services are running at 95% but capacity around 15%. I assumed they meant they'd only let on a certain number, but good luck explaining that to a bunch of angry Londoners trying to get home.

[K_Dubb]

They 'claim' that bus capacity is reduced to about 15%.

Seriously?  They should have requisitioned buses from all the surrounding cities to give people space.  This is like funneling everyone into a few big grocers, or harrying them for straying outside their massive germ-ridden apartment complexes.  Idiocy like that is why people will eventually just ignore.

[whoozit]

I had an email yesterday where they said that bus services are running at 95% but capacity around 15%. I assumed they meant they'd only let on a certain number, but good luck explaining that to a bunch of angry Londoners trying to get home.

Weird times.

[whoozit]

Seriously?  They should have requisitioned buses from all the surrounding cities to give people space.  This is like funneling everyone into a few big grocers, or harrying them for straying outside their massive germ-ridden apartment complexes.  Idiocy like that is why people will eventually just ignore.

But, but global warming.  If the pandemic doesn’t get us global warming will.  We should all shoot ourselves now.  But wait, not all of us can be trusted with firearms.  This is all so futile, I’m going to have a drink.  But alcoholism.  We’re all fucked.

[Walks_At_Night]

They 'claim' that bus capacity is reduced to about 15%.

Probably is.  Instead of increasing the numbers on the road and sparsing out the passengers, they have idled 85 out of a 100.  Voilà!
Capacity down to 15% of nominal.   Looks good in the quarterly report.  Did you enjoy dense pack bussy on the way to supper tonight?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5OYKI_9ujE

[Stupid Robbings]

I understand what you are saying- and I agree. They have not tried to use this legislation yet (and I suspect that they will not.) But the point is that it should not even exist. It should never have been so much as a thought.

Yes, most of us have (to a degree) accepted some limitations. I understand that an arena full of people for a sporting event or concert is not in the cards right now. I also know that in previous health scares both countries put in place a number of restrictions (and I did not expect anything else this time.) The difference is that this time they have decided to lock down an entire world. This time they are trying to use some very powerful technology.

That said, I am hearing more and more rumblings from "normal" people that there has been overreach, an overreaction, that the numbers of dead just do not support what we have been doing. I say "normal" people, because I don't consider most people on this forum to be like the general population (even those who I disagree with are usually quite intelligent and can think critically.)

Today I walked in on a conversation between two employees discussing the death count (300,000 worldwide) with the one young guy saying that he saw the WHO estimates for 2017 of 650,000 dead worldwide from the common flu (something that I had just looked up last week.) To be honest, he is very intelligent- but it tells me that he is out there doing his own research and looking around (I have not seen anything in the media about this so far.) He is trying to figure out "what the hell" and not just accepting what the media outlets are spoon feeding him.

I do think that people are starting to wake up a little. Or maybe I'm just hoping?

Be grateful that the petty tyrants exposed their nefarious intentions by writing such atrocious, malevolent legislation.  They can't enforce it, yet notice how easy it was to get the entire World to cowardly react in lock step.  This "live exercise" has been in the planning by PhDs, for decades.  What will they do with what they have learned from this test?

[SredniVashtar]

I like Whoozit, enjoyed his post, and refuse to torture him in such horrible ways. I will not be used to provide the the bondage and torture material undoubtedly found in your masturbatorium.

I'm glad you bring up WWII. Do you imagine that the rise of most populist movements / tyrants had anything to do with poor economies and starving people? That is what scares me more than an individual following Art's example. 

Well, the US voted for FDR over Hoover during the Great Depression, so the idea that countries automatically turn into Nazi Germany is not as clear cut as you seem to think.

[Kidnostad3]

A real leader in position of US President, would have eliminated the enemy forthwith, pursuant to official public policy, or have informed US citizens of the true nature of the emergency, instead of subjecting people to an indefinite continuation of implied pseudo martial law.  It's not credible to find this an unintentional failure of intelligence agencies.

You'll have to do better than to resort to hyperbolic rhetoric.  Please, do continue and provide specific deconstructive critique.

I'm the one resorting to Hyperbolic rhetoric?  Let me remind you of what you said in your post.

"The US policy is that if attacked with WMDs, that the response it to go nuclear. Since China and Russia still exist, they didn’t do this. The fact that the President has not been forthcoming with an explanation, means that he’s either in on the gag, or else his spooks did to him what they did to JFK. In any event, the President is not demonstrating any constructive leadership against it."


Correct me if I misinterpret you but what you are saying is that because Trump hasn't nuked China and Russia for their use of WMDs and has not explained to you why he hasn't chosen to start WWIII, he isn't demonstrating constructive leadership. 

That's not just hyperbolic, it's bat shit crazy.

[Walks_At_Night]

Well, the US voted for FDR over Hoover during the Great Depression, so the idea that countries automatically turn into Nazi Germany is not as clear cut as you seem to think.

True but only because he was still.  Erm.  Functional.......


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tEQIoC83FU

[SredniVashtar]

Seriously?  They should have requisitioned buses from all the surrounding cities to give people space.  This is like funneling everyone into a few big grocers, or harrying them for straying outside their massive germ-ridden apartment complexes.  Idiocy like that is why people will eventually just ignore.

A lot of the decisions they are making don't appear to be very sensible. The idea that we are going to put everyone over 65 under house arrest doesn't sound like a recipe for success to me. But bus networks are an intricate thing, especially somewhere as busy as London, and I can't see that bringing in a bunch of buses from elsewhere is going to simplify things.

[K_Dubb]

,

The idea that we are going to put everyone over 65 under house arrest doesn't sound like a recipe for success to me.

Hey that is my pet idea you guys better do it or we'll never know if it works!  Seriously, what is your problem with it?

[whoozit]

A lot of the decisions they are making don't appear to be very sensible. The idea that we are going to put everyone over 65 under house arrest doesn't sound like a recipe for success to me. But bus networks are an intricate thing, especially somewhere as busy as London, and I can't see that bringing in a bunch of buses from elsewhere is going to simplify things.

I think it is these wacky decisions that make it easy to see any sort of conspiracy you want.  Truth be told there is no simple correct response.

[whoozit]

Hey that is my pet idea you guys better do it or we'll never know if it works!  Seriously, what is your problem with it?

Should we make the feeble stay at home too?  Wouldn’t it be easier to round them up and put them someplace safe?  Wait...

Time to get ready for a run lest you want to round me up for getting fat.