Live Shooters Las Vegas Several Dead at Mandalay Bay

[Lt.Uhura]

The NW article was from a few years ago, your article is more recent.

I edited my post to include shocking data on child suicide. 

Child suicides involving firearms rose 60% from 2007 to 2014 after having been on the decline and are 11 times higher among teens than 10- to 12-year-olds, researchers found.


http://www.aappublications.org/news/2017/06/19/Firearms061917

[starrmtn001]

https://youtu.be/mBbOFwWquAw

[Dr. MD MD]

I edited my post above to include shocking data on child suicide. 

I'm sure the majority of child gun deaths are just that as are the majority of gun deaths of white people in general.

[Swishypants]

I edited my post above to include shocking data on child suicide. 

Is this Oprah ZULU Winfrey?

[crescent fresh]

Yeah, because the same injuries would happen anyway. Carry on.. It'll all be forgotten anyway in a month. Except by the hundreds who will be having problems due to said gunshot wounds for the rest of their lives.

Well look on the bright side, if there were any negros in the audience they can turn the experience into a rap song and make millions glorifying getting shot and walking with a limp.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qm8PH4xAss

[Gd5150]

Yeah banning alcholol and drugs sure has been successful hasn't it.  Many more people die from the effects of substance abuse than gunfire..  If someon is determined to obtain fully automatic weapons and slaughter people or use guns in the commission of crimes they will not be detered by gun laws.  Cities like Chicago and Detroit illustrate my point.  Do you think you think the good Democrat that now holds the record for mass killing was sweating being charged for breaking the law prohibiting the possession of automatic weapons. 

Europeans are by tradition more amenable to confiscatory measures by their governments and that's why we Americans are not Europeans.

We've also banned murder. Made it illegal. Made it more illegal if it was done with naughty thoughts.

Gun control isn't for law abiding citizens, it's for the politicians to empower themselves. If not a gun, a knife. If not a knife, a bomb. If. It a bomb, a bus. If not a bus, a truck. Just another pointless debate to make the dumbfuck lemmings feels good.

[Yorkshire pud]

We've also banned murder. Made it illegal. Made it more illegal if it was done with naughty thoughts.

Gun control isn't for law abiding citizens, it's for the politicians to empower themselves. If not a gun, a knife. If not a knife, a bomb. If. It a bomb, a bus. If not a bus, a truck. Just another pointless debate to make the dumbfuck lemmings feels good.

The POS in LV was law abiding. Right up until he wasn't.. But its fine, nothing will change, not even if one of your sim buddies was killed. So its all good.

[aldousburbank]

I'm honestly interested in what measures those who say we need to "take action" or "make changes" would suggest in order to "prevent this from ever happening again."

Anyone?

[Dr. MD MD]

The POS in LV was law abiding. Right up until he wasn't.. But its fine, nothing will change, not even if one of your sim buddies was killed. So its all good.

I thought his guns weren't legal? 

[GravitySucks]

I edited my post to include shocking data on child suicide. 

Child suicides involving firearms rose 60% from 2007 to 2014 after having been on the decline and are 11 times higher among teens than 10- to 12-year-olds, researchers found.


http://www.aappublications.org/news/2017/06/19/Firearms061917

Hard to filter out gang activity in the data represented in your post.

This study looked at the suicide rate and methods of children between 5 and up through 12. You would hope this doesn’t include gang activity. Of course when you do that the numbers drop down to 657 between 1993 and 2012.

Seems like use of guns has been on a downwards trend. Hanging/suffocation is by far the leader. M
http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2293169

I know Texas has laws about controlling access to handguns. I assume most if not all states do. When I had kids in my home mine were always locked in a safe or a quick access lockbox with a 5 button keypad. The gun in the lockbox also had a 3 digit combo lock for the trigger.

Suicides are tragic. Not sure anything about access to a gun facilitates suicide once someone is that troubled. Whether a child or adult.

[Yorkshire pud]

I thought his guns weren't legal? 

If he used both legal and illegal ones from the suite will the legal injuries be less?

[Yorkshire pud]

I'm honestly interested in what measures those who say we need to "take action" or "make changes" would suggest in order to "prevent this from ever happening again."

Anyone?

Education. Take the mind set of paranoia out of the American psych that makes some think everyone who isn't them is an adversary. You'd be amazed how easy it is. And how owning a small arsenal won't put the government off if they really wanted to take the population (which they don't).

[Swishypants]

Hard to filter out gang activity in the data represented in your post.

This study looked at the suicide rate and methods of children between 5 and up through 12. You would hope this doesn’t include gang activity. Of course when you do that the numbers drop down to 657 between 1993 and 2012.

Seems like use of guns has been on a downwards trend. Hanging/suffocation is by far the leader. M
http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2293169

I know Texas has laws about controlling access to handguns. I assume most if not all states do. When I had kids in my home mine were always locked in a safe or a quick access lockbox with a 5 button keypad. The gun in the lockbox also had a 3 digit combo lock for the trigger.

Suicides are tragic. Not sure anything about access to a gun facilitates suicide once someone is that troubled. Whether a child or adult.

Violence is measured in fractions of seconds most of the time, and seconds at best. Your "LOCKED UP" gun was useless to you and your entire family would have died if you had needed it.  You are a moron.

[Dr. MD MD]

I'm honestly interested in what measures those who say we need to "take action" or "make changes" would suggest in order to "prevent this from ever happening again."

Anyone?

I would really prefer a world without weapons and war. I think it would be great if every single person decided we don't need guns and we did away with them. However, many would still want them for hunting for food and the fact that humanity abandoning them is highly unlikely it's probably better if everyone were armed because as long as some have guns and others don't they can always be used to coerce the unarmed. If everyone were armed I bet manners and civility would make a big comeback Uuuuge, even! 

[Yorkshire pud]

Violence is measured in fractions of seconds most of the time, and seconds at best. Your "LOCKED UP" gun was useless to you and your entire family would have died if you had needed it.  You are a moron.

And you're four times more likely to get shot if you own weapon. I suspect because the majority of those who own one, don't know how to use or are stupidly careless, or freeze and get jumped.

[albrecht]

Recall the stories and reports about a Hispanic woman who was saying that 'all going to die tonight?' Weird coincidence of a crazy, upset person spouting nonsense and an unrelated crazy person who commences shooting?
https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865690199/Witness-says-mysterious-woman-warned-concertgoers-an-hour-before-Las-Vegas-shooting.html
https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/world/las-vegas-shooting-crowd-warned-youre-all-going-to-die/ar-AAsN1Ca

[Dr. MD MD]

If he used both legal and illegal ones from the suite will the legal injuries be less?

specious argument.  :

[Swishypants]

And you're four times more likely to get shot if you own a gun than if you don't. I suspect because the majority of those who own one, don't know how to use or are stupidly careless.

A right is a right Pud. It's not open to your interpretation or the fact that 85% of all statistics are made upon the spot!

[Swishypants]

Recall the stories and reports about a Hispanic woman who was saying that 'all going to die tonight?' Weird coincidence of a crazy, upset person spouting nonsense and an unrelated crazy person who commences shooting?
https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865690199/Witness-says-mysterious-woman-warned-concertgoers-an-hour-before-Las-Vegas-shooting.html
https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/world/las-vegas-shooting-crowd-warned-youre-all-going-to-die/ar-AAsN1Ca

She said that because of all the big ole Cowboy dicks all around her.

[Dr. MD MD]

Education. Take the mind set of paranoia out of the American psych that makes some think everyone who isn't them is an adversary. You'd be amazed how easy it is. And how owning a small arsenal won't put the government off if they really wanted to take the population (which they don't).

In other words, stop being individuals and just roll over already!  :

It's not going to happen without a major war, pud. 

[Swishypants]

In other words, stop being individuals and just roll over already!  :

It's not going to happen without a major war, pud. 

STFU Dr. Poopyshoes! My shit is more interesting! Go play with your Star Trek toys!

[Yorkshire pud]

specious argument.  :

You brought up the topic of illegality. I wondered if there's a difference in how lethal the round might be.

[Dr. MD MD]

STFU Dr. Poopyshoes! My shit is more interesting! Go play with your Star Trek toys!

I see you're starting to breakdown already. It's only a matter of time before you're speaking tongues again. 

[Yorkshire pud]

A right is a right Pud. It's not open to your interpretation or the fact that 85% of all statistics are made upon the spot!

Nope, that is a true statistic.. Look it up yourself. But you're correct. A right is a right..the right to shoot someone overrules the right to not be shot at.

[Swishypants]

I see you're starting to breakdown already. It's only a matter of time before you're speaking tongues again. 

BREAKDOWN! GO AHEAD AND GIVE IT TO ME!!!

[Dr. MD MD]

You brought up the topic of illegality. I wondered if there's a difference in how lethal the round might be.

I know. You've hit that same irrelevant point about a dozen times since this went down. You obviously think it's very clever.  :

[aldousburbank]

Education. Take the mind set of paranoia out of the American psych that makes some think everyone who isn't them is an adversary. You'd be amazed how easy it is. And how owning a small arsenal won't put the government off if they really wanted to take the population (which they don't).

Agreed.
That sounds like a long term, multi-generational strategy which does not prevent idiots who lawfully or otherwise already have access to firearms from popping off muderous volleys whenever they snap.

[Swishypants]

Nope, that is a true statistic.. Look it up yourself. But you're correct. A right is a right..the right to shoot someone overrules the right to not be shot at.

Self defense is a universal-ism. Engrishmeen are history.

[Yorkshire pud]

In other words, stop being individuals and just roll over already!  :

It's not going to happen without a major war, pud. 

It wouldn't happen after a war either. The next major war will have weapons of bow and arrows after it.

[Yorkshire pud]

Self defense is a universal-ism. Engrishmeen are history.

Yeah, how did self defence work out the other night?